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We will all have forgotten Keene by November, right around the time everybody comes around on how bad of a draft pick N'Keal Treadwell was. Don't fool yourself.

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Bad TEs. This is how he compared to the average. Not scared at all. The guy is a JAG. I will be surprised if he is anything more than Lacosse. Patriots Draft Pick Profile: Dalton Keene

Quick question...is there any video of this guy beating somebody in coverage? I know there's a lot of video of this JAG catching passes after being completely ignored, sneaking out in the flat, etc., but is there anything showing him beating a defender? Anything at all? We could set an...

Most intelligent post in this thread. However, while I do appreciate the title, I don't feel you need to be an expert to see that Keene is a JAG.

N'Keal sucks - True All the draft picks suck - Not true Love the Jim Jones story, but I think that probably applies more to those of you with blind allegiances, don't you think? Reductio ad absurdum is not your strong suit.

Nope. Just stating the obvious. Water is wet...the sky is blue...and on Keene's best day, he's a JAG.

Keene is a "shade" slower than Kittle? Really? Here is the data I was referring to earlier. I have no idea where this talk of him being ultra-athletic comes from. This is his data compared to the average at the combine. In a league where speed is measured in 1/10ths of a second in the...

Yep...guys like Dalton Keene are tough to find.

Keene looks like a JAG and has JAG numbers, Kittle had JAG numbers (in college) but looked like an elite athlete. Like I mentioned before, the guy is as fast (if not faster) as our 1st rd bust of a WR.

No...just calling water wet.

I don't hate BB, but I believe Brady made up for a large number of personnel blunders on the part of the front office. I also believe Brady allowed the Pats to save money on skill players by making avg-below avg players better than they would have been without him. Keene's measureables are...

That play was just something I get a chuckle out of. He tries hard, but he's a JAG.

They are not comparable athletes. Yes, the testable numbers are in Kittle's favor, but all you have to do is watch them to see they are on two different levels as athletes.

Not to say they are the be all end all skills for a TE, but he runs and jumps better than Keene. Kittle's speed at TE is comparable to our 1st-Rd-bust WR's speed. Keene's is similar to the avg NFL TE.

I did, but I always preferred and focused on one specific non-team sport.

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Overall offensive ineptitude which, outside of the OL, is a common problem at Iowa. However, it was always known how good of athlete Kittle was here. Maybe not nationally, but his athleticism was well known within Iowa. There were effort questions about him locally during the off season...

I am saying if a player has little to no college production (Kittle or Keene), there should be something special that causes a team to draft them as high as the 3rd round. Kittle had special athleticism (drafted in the 5th). Jimmy Graham would be another example of a special athlete with...

Kittle was far from a JAG athlete. Keene is not. I believe Patriots.com posted Keene's numbers vs the TE average. Where are these superior athletic traits people speak of?