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If Falcons pull off a win, and we beat panthers at home, and they beat a QB-less Eagles, and our Saints boys with Brees can eak out a Dome win in Vikings land :) Then Falsons has to face us in the Dome for NFC Championship, and Dirty Birds are not better :)

Try playing in Vikings stadium :P

Completely understandable with your reaction I was born with dyslexia growing up in the 1980's, when no one knew what it was. Possible some thoughts are out of context. I usually have to write and have my home computer speak to me to say what I want to express, as opposed to what I type, and...

Wild Card Chiefs over Titans = 31-14 (chiefs just have more talent) Saints over Panthers = 47-24 ( Saint have to make a statement here and destroy CAR Brees is the most reliable QB in the NFC and the NFL has never had 2 RB's with 1500 yrds in backfield Ingram/Kamara , should be impossible for...

Yeah your right and perfect wasn't really trying to make this a Brees debate, just using him as and example of maybe how messed up the thinking is with MVP, as a Saints fan I think people think we are mad Brees has no MVP, but we are not, I think its comical and shows what the MVP really stand...

saints 20 (341) colts 8 (307)

Yeah just getting my head around this, but what if Berry Sanders did run for 2083 yards on the 9-7 lions in 1997 and it's all him? No good defense, OL or QB. Berry not the MVP ? because they cant win ? Lions wouldn't even get to the playoffs if Sanders didnt do that. This is not really about...

yeah make a better point than I, and maybe Wilson should not win. Seahawk does have a middle well run the team. I kind of threw that name out there wasn't thinking. Thanks, good point.

Yeah good point, but are we rewarding wins even though the mvp had nothing to do with it, and might have even blown the game if not for a good defense to save the day? I mean a mvp should be the playmaker i was thinking like say kamara. A guy that you will probably lose the game if hes out...

Well, then defenses are excuses because without top defenses most QB's wouldn't have MVPs or SB or considered great because the defense saved them and gave then SB they could never get on their own on a lesser team.

Really don't think Brees will ever get an MVP. For some reason, he's just never good or sexy enough at 6ft to get one, but I do think if Brees was a rookie with 72 comp% , much like when Rogers got one with his stats, and Brees was playing for Vikings or Eagles he would be a sure win if he was...

oh there's no harm in talking about it I think. I like thinking about it.. we are just fans that love the game. Being serious or stringent isn't going to change anything. Im not BB looking for advice or talking to Tom or Brees. Think we are doing what fans do, we love football and talking about...

And no chance for MVP lol, again, thanks for this I don't like to post Brees stats on this forum. He is always overlooked, plays with injuries like everyone else, and is the only reason the Saints are even considered to be a good team. He's not a TB, but a damn good QB, and a better QB than...

Hes still has some left in the tank

Yeah what surprises me is I didn't think our depth to fill positions was as good as it is.

A shootout would be awesome, and Big plays by Gronk, Thomas a real death match between Brady and Brees breaking all their records for a game and both playing the best game they can to their potential with nothing left in the tank. Would love that. If Brees can get it together, and he seems to...

You're probably right, but not if we both play our best game. They are solid, but we have a couple xfactures that are game changers. OMG can you imagine how much Viking fans are going to hate us if we knock them out of SB again. yikes might be better to lose.

so would Keenum worry you for the punt at 24-27 , when you made a FG to be up front winning or would Brees with 3 minutes left ?

Yeah the truth be told lumas was not picking, SP hired a guy to replace lumas defensive picks. Offensive picts are all SP. Lumas was picking them before. WE got sooo lucky. Lattimore ,Ramczyk are not that injury prone, so in good shape and both are tough , they seems to get it, and leaders in...