Russini & Vrabel Nothing to see here?

sb1 · Tuesday at 7:13 PM

TheRazorsEdge said:

Looks like a guy who can't do anything for reporters once they are between the white lines....

sb1 · Tuesday at 7:15 PM

I still think it's odd there is no video out there. Showing a hug in a still photo is one thing a video showing a long embrace with a kiss and hand holding for a long time is another. Or maybe there is video and it hasn't been released publicly yet.

But this resignation speaks for itself. Her career is over.

Steve102 · Tuesday at 7:16 PM

Thelonious said:
A lot of talk here and all over to the effect that Vrabel "has to talk to the media." I agree: he should tell them to go **** themselves. This is the response the press has earned, pontificating clickbait whores that they are.

Right out of the Belichick playbook on media relations.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. You’d vilify Belichick for doing this.

Tunescribe · Tuesday at 7:16 PM

TheRazorsEdge said:

He was his own scandalous drama: hubris-drenched ineptitude personified.

catent · Tuesday at 7:19 PM

Bill Lee said:
Ok, let's stick to facts. A man and a women wearing bathing suits in a hot tub in a resort town.

Happens all the time, I would think, even if those people are married to other people.

The facts also show the two of them sharing an obviously romantic embrace on a rooftop only accessible via private rooms, with no one else around.

As I've said a few times before: if I saw photographs of my girlfriend in a similar situation, I'd be deeply troubled and would expect a thorough, transparent explanation from her as to what actually occurred.

XLIX · Tuesday at 7:20 PM

Steve102 said:
Right out of the Belichick playbook on media relations.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. You’d vilify Belichick for doing this.

Vrabel's problem is that he literally does have to speak to the media regularly as a part of his job. They aren't going to meekly back down from discussing the topic while there's still something to discuss.

One-If-By-Sea · Tuesday at 7:29 PM

RobertWeathers said:
Yes but The Athletic already issued a public statement fully supporting her.

I think she did hook up w/ Vrabes but just stating what if she didn't.

It is the New York Times, not the Athletic. The NYT owns the Athletic. The NYT makes all of the decisions.

There is no proof of a hookup. The NYT not supporting Russini is not a condemnation. Why do you think she did hook up w/Vrabes?

One-If-By-Sea · Tuesday at 7:32 PM

Ice_Ice_Brady said:
I think you have the wrong lynch mob. Photos are facts.

What facts do you see in the photos? Russini and Vrabel held hands and hugged? LOL. LOL.

Photos are facts. Have people lost their minds?

Ring 6 · Tuesday at 7:34 PM

RobertWeathers said:
The coach having an affair which eventually dies in the media cycle will not translate in losses.

A coach going through a nasty divorce in which distracts and sucks the life out of him will.

Wins and losses. Those are all what matter.

The divorce could also be liberating depending upon the situation.

Ice_Ice_Brady · Tuesday at 7:35 PM

Bill Lee said:
The real problem for her with regard to NYT isn't the infidelity angle, it's the appearance of impropriety angle, IMO.

A reporter is not supposed to be seen as being close friends with the people they cover, never mind lovers.

Yet if this was two men on a golf course instead of a man and a women in bathing suits in a hot tub, the story would play out very differently, IMO.

This is a very strong point. A male reporter hanging out at strip club with a coach would be a non-story, if not status quo stuff.

Bill Lee said:
This too is something we're not likely to know, unless she herself decides to do a tell-all.

Now, just imagine that. One of the few ways women have to level the playing field is to go scorched earth.

Ok, let's stick to facts. A man and a women wearing bathing suits in a hot tub in a resort town.

Happens all the time, I would think, even if those people are married to other people.

Friend of mine is in Myrtle Beach right now, quite possibly doing something quite similar.

Any presumption of innocence, or do we jump to the 'facts' people here are going with?

There’s no presumption of innocence. This isn’t a criminal proceeding. There’s no smoking gun of certainty either. There’s just a lot of smoke. It just comes down to “if I were a betting man” stuff, and I know where the smart money is on this.

Tunescribe · Tuesday at 7:35 PM

catent said:
The facts also show the two of them sharing an obviously romantic embrace on a rooftop only accessible via private rooms, with no one else around.

As I've said a few times before: if I saw photographs of my girlfriend in a similar situation, I'd be deeply troubled and would expect a thorough, transparent explanation from her as to what actually occurred.

I strongly suspect Vrabel won't go anywhere near "coming clean" publicly on this, probably something along the lines of "I've already issued a statement and have nothing else to say." His marriage status will become known either way. What I'm curious about is how he addresses it with the team. I think he'll need to if he wants to maintain and build upon the culture established last season.

Boogs · Tuesday at 7:36 PM

XLIX said:
He should give a press conference, admit what he did, and publicly apologize. People love a good redemption story, but they hate someone who lies, gets caught, then clings to the lie.

Admitting he did it pretty much makes the story go away. There's nothing left to investigate and there's no longer any "got'cha" moment after a man admits his guilt. He can then (accurately) answer all further questions that it is a personal matter between him and his wife and it doesn't impact his role as HC of the NEP.

The problem is if he's been lying about this. That can make this much worse. Because the media will be relentless. I can't remember Vrabel's exact words. If he did lie about it, it's a an embarrassment to the organization and things typically get stirred up from it. And saying this, I know what Kraft got himself into.

One-If-By-Sea · Tuesday at 7:38 PM

sb1 said:
But this resignation speaks for itself. Her career is over.

Yup, Russo's career at the New York Times is over. Who cares?

Bari Weiss was kicked out of the NYT in 2020, and has made over $100M since then. Bari is very happy to have left the NYT.

Ice_Ice_Brady · Tuesday at 7:40 PM

catent said:
As I've said a few times before: if I saw photographs of my girlfriend in a similar situation, I'd be deeply troubled and would expect a thorough, transparent explanation from her as to what actually occurred.

These photos end with “your clothes are in the suitcases outside.”

festy1986 · Tuesday at 7:41 PM

catent said:
The person who just delivered an unsolicited lecture on the shamefulness of "gossip", is now using the word pontificating as a pejorative. Two posts apart, without a trace of self-awareness.

So to recap: discussing a current news story with a range of perspectives = shameful gossip worthy of your moralizing sermons. Calling the media "whores" and telling people to **** themselves = totally fine, actually noble.

The same behavior you were just condemning (performative outrage, contempt for the discussion, broad-brush dismissal of everyone involved), you’re now openly endorsing, just aimed at a different target.

Wow. This is what getting bodied looks like.

I'm sure that poster thinks her quitting her job has more to do with this "performative" outrage than her engaging is a scandalous relationship that breaks every ethical boundary the media is supposed to have with those they cover.

One-If-By-Sea · Tuesday at 7:42 PM

Boogs said:
The problem is if he's been lying about this.

I assume you mean Vrabel is lying. How do you know that?

Ice_Ice_Brady · Tuesday at 7:42 PM

One-If-By-Sea said:
What facts do you see in the photos? Russini and Vrabel held hands and hugged? LOL. LOL.

Photos are facts. Have people lost their minds?

Good thing you’re not a lawyer.

festy1986 · Tuesday at 7:43 PM

One-If-By-Sea said:
Yup, Russo's career at the New York Times is over. Who cares?

Bari Weiss was kicked out of the NYT in 2020, and has made over $100M since then. Bari is very happy to have left the NYT.

Why are you so dismissive toward how this is affecting Russini? That woman will literally be reminded of this story every time she opens her social media. For the rest of time. For ever.

She did it to her self. She knows the boundaries she wasn't supposed to cross.

Ice_Ice_Brady · Tuesday at 7:45 PM

Yeah here it is.

Boogs · Tuesday at 7:46 PM

One-If-By-Sea said:
I assume you mean Vrabel is lying. How do you know that?

I don't know for sure if he lied about this. But Russini is probably not getting fired over a hug between friends.

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