Player Signing Patriots Sign OT James Hudson III

Zuma said:

"I think we went to bed last night hoping that he would be there at this spot," said Glenn Cook, Browns Vice President of Player Personnel. "Just in terms of speaking to the position, you can never have enough big dudes who can move and can fit in the scheme. Just a really good fit and really good value for where we got him."

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rkarp1 said:

why is Chuks your go to, when you are mostly wrong about him?
in 2020/21/22 , the Steelers were in the playoffs 2 of those years. Chuks played 94%, 97% and 100% of the teams offensive snaps those 3 seasons, earning a 2nd contract from the team that drafted him.
granted, once he got paid, he lost interest and fell off (a la Trent Brown). he came here on a look see/change of scenery deal, and again lost interest/poor coaching/poor scheme and he walked away...
for a 3 year span, he was a very viable RT

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n1997y said:

Good job Wozzy, raising the bar now that 5 pages is getting close…

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Ring 6 said:

Good feet.

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n1997y said:

Good job Wozzy, raising the bar now that 5 pages is getting close…

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TheRainMaker said:

This thread should've ended after 1-2 pages max with majority of posters not even responding to this.

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Wozzy said:

Chuks is my “go to” because it was the season before last, people like you were here telling us he was a good signing because of draft status and because he started some games. When I pointed out he wasn’t good regardless of starts, you said well at least he’s cheap.

Chuks stunk, he still stinks… he played on the Steelers which had one of the worst lines in the NFL. Now he rides the pine. “Playing” doesn’t equate to good, especially when the result is bad.

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TheRainMaker said:

This thread should've ended after 1-2 pages max with majority of posters not even responding to this.

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rkarp1 said:

the result was playoffs in 2 of the 3 years, and 1 year the Steelers offense was ranked #12
the result was also a 2nd contract
you need a better barometer. your current one sucks

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Wozzy said:

Team record is team success, not individual player success. They had one of the worst OLines in the league, rushing and pass protection at that time.

The Steelers actually traded for our #1 draft pick to take an offensive tackle because Chuks sucked. Good tackles are starting, not riding the pine for the horrid Jets.

Laughable….

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rkarp1 said:

I would assume Chuks is the swing OT for the Jets in a similar manner Lowe was for the Pats this season.
that is if he is motivated and willing to put in the work.
you were pining for 1st rd pick Membou last season. and Fashanu is also a #1 pick.
no issues with Chuks not seeing snaps over either

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Wozzy said:

So a warm body… that’s not a “good” signing.

Good players are wanted, there’s a shortage of good tackles. They are sought after, There are job openings for those guys. Pretty simple.

But I guess that’s why you were telling us the 2024 OLine was going to be good, then during the season were constantly in a state of improving… yet never actually did. Because in your mind any warm body would do.

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Wozzy said:

Hudson doesn’t have “talent,” he’s a stiff.

And not every move this regime makes is genius
or even good. Moreover there’s certainly favoritism or nepotism involved in some moves. “I like the guy” or “I worked with the guy” certainly happens in the NFL.

He was a poor athlete in the testing process, check his combine and pro day results. College players can get by or even excel just being big, the NFL is a different animal altogether.

Just because some outliers succeed without being really athletic, doesn’t mean it’s common or a regular occurrence. A prospect needs athleticism and brains, some have more of one than the other. You need to understand how to play and have the physical abilities to play at the highest level.

If Hudson had that, he would have shown it already. If Chuks Okorafor was going to be good, he would have shown it already. God knows both guys were given every opportunity.

Draft status means zero, absolutely nothing after the draft happens. The NFL is a meritocracy. Draft status may buy you more time, but it won’t make you a better player.

Let’s not go 10 pages trying to polish this turd into a diamond.

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rkarp1 said:

you are going all Wozzy on this thread
stay on task please

re Hudson. the Pats are razor thin at the OT position. they have a 2nd year player that missed 4 games his rookie season, and played thru the playoffs/SB injured. they also have a 35 yr old that was thought to be considering retirement. lastly, they have a rookie who they never trusted to see any snaps the entire season. therefore, they took a flier at a 5 year vet that is guaranteed nothing, blocks no one, while they continue to monitor the free agent/trade markets, and interview draftable options.
only you would find fault in the signing.

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Wozzy said:

Chuks is my “go to” because it was the season before last, people like you were here telling us he was a good signing because of draft status and because he started some games. When I pointed out he wasn’t good regardless of starts, you said well at least he’s cheap.

Chuks stunk, he still stinks… he played on the Steelers which had one of the worst lines in the NFL. Now he rides the pine. “Playing” doesn’t equate to good, especially when the result is bad.

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Wozzy said:

Team record is team success, not individual player success. They had one of the worst OLines in the league, rushing and pass protection at that time.

The Steelers actually traded for our #1 draft pick to take an offensive tackle because Chuks sucked. Good tackles are starting, not riding the pine for the horrid Jets.

Laughable….

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jdlboot14 said:

Well, just remember - we all hated Lowe with a passion last year. And he was terrible.
Then, suddenly filling in for Will, he was quite competent and stable. To the point where some thought he'd be a sure FA re-sign. So... sometimes coaching and OL teammates matter. At least the guy has fight and serious aggression.

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40yrpatsfan said:

This guy looks as good as Lowe was.

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DaBruinz said:

Incorrect. They traded for the Pats #1 because they wanted to replace Dan Moore. That draft pick was Broderick Jones.. Whom they wanted to take over at LT. Jones failed to win the job out of Training Camp. Jones didn't see any regular snaps at LT until week 4 that year when Moore went down. Jones then played the next game at LT. Then was benched again when Moore returned. Okorafor was their starter at RT through week 8 (week 6 Bye). Then, Tomlin put there Top Draft pick in at RT despite his lousy play.

Jones at RT - 331 pass blocking snaps - 4 sacks, 3 QB hits, 18 hurries - 1 pressure every 13.24 snaps.
Okorafor - 269 pass blocking snaps - 2 sacks, 0 QB hits, 9 hurries - 1 pressure every 24.5 snaps.

Broderick Jones was only marginally better for the Steelers as Demontrey Jacobs was for the Pats in 2024:
Jones - 593 pass blocking snaps - 10 sacks, 9 QB hits, 24 QB hurries - 1 pressure every 13.8 snaps
Demontrey Jacobs- 566 pass blocking snaps - 9 sacks, 7 QB hits, 33 hurries - 1 pressure every 11.6 snaps

Broderick Jones was moved BACK to LT in 2025 and he sucks still.
2025 - 380 pass blocking snaps, 6 sacks, 6 QB hits, 11 hurries - 1 pressure every 16.5 snaps.

What's laughable is you trying to re-write history on what actually happened in Pittsburgh with Okorafor when it's there for everyone to see. The fact that you think that Broderick Jones is good shows how out of whack your takes have gotten.

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