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Patriots Rumor Alec Pierce question

A report indicating the Patriots are potentially in the market for this player, or have expressed or plant to express interest.

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Alec Pierce is seeming to be telegraphed to the Patriots much like Milton Williams was a year ago. If reporting on his priorities is to be believed, he is ours if we're willing to make a competitive enough bid.

I have a question about Pierce's production and fit for this offense. Pierce's career catch percentage is only 53%, and his career high is 56%. This seems concerningly low. How is this explained?

Pierce's drop percentage is low (1.2% in 2025, and 3.4% for his career), so it's not his hands.

Is this a natural function of his role in the Indy offense? His average depth of target is very high (18.9 yards in 2025, 16.7 career) so has he just been targeted on a disproportionate number of low probability throws? Were his QBs just missing him badly because they have largely sucked?

Does he frequently miss his routes? His college scouting reports indicated a limited route tree - something Chris Hogan recently sounded off on.

This information will likely decide whether he is signed. I can't imagine a team that runs McDaniels' offensive system is going to break the bank for a WR who isn't useful in the middle of the field. The offense is already somewhat deficient in this area, and there isn't really a role for another deep ball specialist.

Is there anyone here who has watched a lot of Indy tape (god knows I haven't) and can speak to his fit here?
 
I don't think Alec Pierce is being strongly linked with the Patriots at all.

It all seems to be fairly tenuous to this point, like analysts saying it could make sense
 
I don't think Alec Pierce is being strongly linked with the Patriots at all.

It all seems to be fairly tenuous to this point, like analysts saying it could make sense
That's what I'm wondering.

It seems like a tantalizingly obvious fit, but there is a very real likelihood that the team sees no fit for him as well.

I'm checking if anyone actually knows anything about his game. I'm clueless outside of his raw numbers.
 
At this point it looks like chargers are completely on him and we are not even in reckoning.

So it's either aj brown or potentially Mike Evans for us .if both don't sign here , prolly we are looking at a very weak wr corps .
 
Alec Pierce is seeming to be telegraphed to the Patriots much like Milton Williams was a year ago. If reporting on his priorities is to be believed, he is ours if we're willing to make a competitive enough bid.

I have a question about Pierce's production and fit for this offense. Pierce's career catch percentage is only 53%, and his career high is 56%. This seems concerningly low. How is this explained?

Pierce's drop percentage is low (1.2% in 2025, and 3.4% for his career), so it's not his hands.

Is this a natural function of his role in the Indy offense? His average depth of target is very high (18.9 yards in 2025, 16.7 career) so has he just been targeted on a disproportionate number of low probability throws? Were his QBs just missing him badly because they have largely sucked?

Does he frequently miss his routes? His college scouting reports indicated a limited route tree - something Chris Hogan recently sounded off on.

This information will likely decide whether he is signed. I can't imagine a team that runs McDaniels' offensive system is going to break the bank for a WR who isn't useful in the middle of the field. The offense is already somewhat deficient in this area, and there isn't really a role for another deep ball specialist.

Is there anyone here who has watched a lot of Indy tape (god knows I haven't) and can speak to his fit here?
It is typical for deep target WRs to have low completion rates because those throws have a lower chance of success.

Kyle Williams is in the same ball park. But, also the Colts have had QB issues Matt Ryan 2022, Gardner Minschew 2023, Anthony Richardson 2024 and Dan Jones in 2025.
 
If the Chargers want him they probably get him if offers are close.

LA vs Boston weather isn’t close.
 
Alec Pierce is seeming to be telegraphed to the Patriots much like Milton Williams was a year ago. If reporting on his priorities is to be believed, he is ours if we're willing to make a competitive enough bid.

I have a question about Pierce's production and fit for this offense. Pierce's career catch percentage is only 53%, and his career high is 56%. This seems concerningly low. How is this explained?

Pierce's drop percentage is low (1.2% in 2025, and 3.4% for his career), so it's not his hands.

Is this a natural function of his role in the Indy offense? His average depth of target is very high (18.9 yards in 2025, 16.7 career) so has he just been targeted on a disproportionate number of low probability throws? Were his QBs just missing him badly because they have largely sucked?

Does he frequently miss his routes? His college scouting reports indicated a limited route tree - something Chris Hogan recently sounded off on.

This information will likely decide whether he is signed. I can't imagine a team that runs McDaniels' offensive system is going to break the bank for a WR who isn't useful in the middle of the field. The offense is already somewhat deficient in this area, and there isn't really a role for another deep ball specialist.

Is there anyone here who has watched a lot of Indy tape (god knows I haven't) and can speak to his fit here?

Imagine for a moment Anthony Richardson throwing to you.

Hopefully this answers your question.
 
At this point it looks like chargers are completely on him and we are not even in reckoning.

So it's either aj brown or potentially Mike Evans for us .if both don't sign here , prolly we are looking at a very weak wr corps .

Where did you see that? Everything I'm seeing and hearing has him going to the Patriots.
 
At this point it looks like chargers are completely on him and we are not even in reckoning.

So it's either aj brown or potentially Mike Evans for us .if both don't sign here , prolly we are looking at a very weak wr corps .
No thanks on Corpse Mike Evans: might as well kept Diggs. WR's Omar Cooper and Ted Hurst in the upcoming Draft please: we need to develop our own.
 
Hes led the league in ypc the last 2 years so his targets are mostly longer passes, that could be a factor. And poor qb play.

As you pointed out his drop percentage is low so im not too concerned about this. According the statmuse below only boutte had better yards per target of the actual full time wr’s

 
Alec Pierce is seeming to be telegraphed to the Patriots much like Milton Williams was a year ago. If reporting on his priorities is to be believed, he is ours if we're willing to make a competitive enough bid.

I have a question about Pierce's production and fit for this offense. Pierce's career catch percentage is only 53%, and his career high is 56%. This seems concerningly low. How is this explained?

Pierce's drop percentage is low (1.2% in 2025, and 3.4% for his career), so it's not his hands.

Is this a natural function of his role in the Indy offense? His average depth of target is very high (18.9 yards in 2025, 16.7 career) so has he just been targeted on a disproportionate number of low probability throws? Were his QBs just missing him badly because they have largely sucked?

Does he frequently miss his routes? His college scouting reports indicated a limited route tree - something Chris Hogan recently sounded off on.

This information will likely decide whether he is signed. I can't imagine a team that runs McDaniels' offensive system is going to break the bank for a WR who isn't useful in the middle of the field. The offense is already somewhat deficient in this area, and there isn't really a role for another deep ball specialist.

Is there anyone here who has watched a lot of Indy tape (god knows I haven't) and can speak to his fit here?
You answered it for yourself. ADOT has to be considered in completion %.
No QB completes as many passes 20 yards downfield as he does 4 yards downfield.
Going from memory when it used to be easy to find the stats by length of throw, QBs would complete 90+% behind the line, 70% from 1-10 40% from 11-20 and 25% 20+. Or something like that.
No receiver is catching 60-70% on deeper routes.
Pierce on his routes catching 53% is actually excellent.

QBs don’t have higher comp % now than in the 70s or 80s because they throw better, they have a higher comp % because they add a couple hundred easy throws in place of running the ball
 
Alec Pierce is seeming to be telegraphed to the Patriots much like Milton Williams was a year ago. If reporting on his priorities is to be believed, he is ours if we're willing to make a competitive enough bid.

I have a question about Pierce's production and fit for this offense. Pierce's career catch percentage is only 53%, and his career high is 56%. This seems concerningly low. How is this explained?

Pierce's drop percentage is low (1.2% in 2025, and 3.4% for his career), so it's not his hands.

Is this a natural function of his role in the Indy offense? His average depth of target is very high (18.9 yards in 2025, 16.7 career) so has he just been targeted on a disproportionate number of low probability throws? Were his QBs just missing him badly because they have largely sucked?

Does he frequently miss his routes? His college scouting reports indicated a limited route tree - something Chris Hogan recently sounded off on.

This information will likely decide whether he is signed. I can't imagine a team that runs McDaniels' offensive system is going to break the bank for a WR who isn't useful in the middle of the field. The offense is already somewhat deficient in this area, and there isn't really a role for another deep ball specialist.

Is there anyone here who has watched a lot of Indy tape (god knows I haven't) and can speak to his fit here?
A Pierce is 6'3 211 nuff said! I'm sick of those smurf WR's.
 
Where did you see that? Everything I'm seeing and hearing has him going to the Patriots.
Online chatter and YouTube videos on chargers being all in , besides they have 99 million in cash to spend .

Weather is too enticing . Boston is not even close .
 
Imagine for a moment Anthony Richardson throwing to you.

Hopefully this answers your question.
You nailed it: the QB's sucked.

I think receiving success rate is better than catch % as it takes yards into consideration.

Success rate 2025:

Pierce: 54.8% on 21.3 Y/R
T. Warren: 51.8 on 10.8 Y/R
Pitman: 57.7 on 9.8 Y/R
Downs: 50.0 on 9.8 Y/R
Taylor: 54.5 on 9.8 Y/R

Pierce was 11.9 Yard per Target, the rest were between 6.4 and 7.3.

The next 2 guys in yards per catch:
Jameson Williams Det not a good deep ball thrower there: Success rate 53.9%

Boutte is next, great deep ball thrower: success rate 69.6% but only 33 catches for 551 yards

Couple other guys over 15 yards per catch:

Rome Odunze is 45.6% success (Inaccurate QB)
Nico Collins: 49.2% success (inaccurate QB)

See the difference in QB? That's why Pierce is SO exciting to pare with Maye.
 
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Online chatter and YouTube videos on chargers being all in , besides they have 99 million in cash to spend .

Weather is too enticing . Boston is not even close .

This reminds me of last year going into free agency, and even during it, when everyone was being as negative as they could possibly be. I don't know if it's just a Boston thing but I have never seen a more negative fan base in my life. This front office crushed free agency and the draft, but here we are with the exact same **** being spewed all over again. It never ends.
 
Online chatter and YouTube videos on chargers being all in , besides they have 99 million in cash to spend .

Weather is too enticing . Boston is not even close .
Chargers are a possibility, but everyone has Pats as 1 of the top 1 or 2 most likely destinations.
California the one place where taxes and cost of living is a disadvantage to Boston.
Chargers also have 15 less players under contract than the Pats they need to sign a lot more guys so cap difference not as great as it looks.

Neither team will be constrained by cap space.

Probably 5-6 teams will at least take a look at him seriously.

His college coach is one of Vrabel's best friends. Vrabel will have a lot of insight in determining how high he wants to go.

Let's not forget Milt Williams spurned Carolina (much nicer weather, better tax situation) and signed with Pats.
 
Online chatter and YouTube videos on chargers being all in , besides they have 99 million in cash to spend .

Weather is too enticing . Boston is not even close .
How do we know what weather he prefers?
He's a young kid, not a grumpy old man shovelling his own driveway.
He grew up in Illinois, I'm sure he's use to cold weather.
Maybe he loves ice fishing snow shoeing.
This weather talk is unfounded.
 
Chargers are a possibility, but everyone has Pats as 1 of the top 1 or 2 most likely destinations.
California the one place where taxes and cost of living is a disadvantage to Boston.
Chargers also have 15 less players under contract than the Pats they need to sign a lot more guys so cap difference not as great as it looks.

Neither team will be constrained by cap space.

Probably 5-6 teams will at least take a look at him seriously.

His college coach is one of Vrabel's best friends. Vrabel will have a lot of insight in determining how high he wants to go.

Let's not forget Milt Williams spurned Carolina (much nicer weather, better tax situation) and signed with Pats.

There is also a serious anti Patriots bias among NFL media. I have seen some articles where they predict top signings and the Patriots are nowhere to be found in the articles. Imo Pierce's comments telegraph a desire to play for the Patriots. We will see come the 11th, but I expect the Patriots to be active and aggressive in free agency, and I think Vrabel and Maye are both big draws for the Patriots.
 
You nailed it: the QB's sucked.

I think receiving success rate is better than catch % as it takes yard into consideration.

Success rate 2025:

Pierce: 54.8% on 21.3 Y/R
T. Warren: 51.8 on 10.8 Y/R
Pitman: 57.7 on 9.8 Y/R
Downs: 50.0 on 9.8 Y/R
Taylor: 54.5 on 9.8 Y/R

Pierce was 11.9 Yard per Target, the rest were between 6.4 and 7.3.

The next 2 guys in yards per catch:
Jameson Williams Det not a good deep ball thrower there: Success rate 53.9%

Boutte is next, great deep ball thrower: success rate 69.6% but only 33 catches for 551 yards

Couple other guys over 15 yards per catch:

Rome Odunze is 45.6% success (Inaccurate QB)
Nico Collins: 49.2% success (inaccurate QB)

See the difference in QB? That's why Pierce is SO exciting to pare with Maye.
But it’s not just the qb. As a fact the deeper the route the lower the % complete.
No one with 18.7 avg depth of throw is going to catching 70% of them, that’s not how football works.
Ironically Pierces catch rate at 18.7 adot is fantastic, probably best in the league, and people who don’t understand the correlation between completion % and length of throw are acting like it’s a negative.
 
How do we know what weather he prefers?
He's a young kid, not a grumpy old man shovelling his own driveway.
He grew up in Illinois, I'm sure he's use to cold weather.
Maybe he loves ice fishing snow shoeing.
This weather talk is unfounded.
I'm sure that Providence nightlife and the availability of good snowshoeing is a major plus for the patriots.
 
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