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And he was their starter so there is an enormous hole. It will take a lot of that cap space to fill it.
You said two “enormous holes”
Taylor’s backup played better than him when he went on IR after 12 games.
McD is a huge hole, agreed.
Taylor is not, he was easily replaced by a cheaper backup post injury.
Very smart, and really the only move KC could make was cutting him.
 
Florio had an interesting article that the NFL is looking to fast track their new TV deals, which would necessitate fast tracking the unavoidable expansion to 18 games - perhaps even as soon as 2027.

This could be the last year teams play “only” 17 regular season games.
 
You said two “enormous holes”
Taylor’s backup played better than him when he went on IR after 12 games.
McD is a huge hole, agreed.
Taylor is not, he was easily replaced by a cheaper backup post injury.
Very smart, and really the only move KC could make was cutting him.
You dint seem to understand what I am saying. They have a hole at RT. The guy who couldn’t beat out Taylor isn’t the answer. We had a bad player and went 6-11 so we don’t need anyone there isn’t a strong argument.
FYI you are rating Taylor by PFF ratings. His PFF ratings are basically the same as they have always been and the sane that led the chiefs to pay him
20 mill. His PFF pass block rating is in the 40s, so if you trust PFF he’s a starting caliber pass protector.
 
You dint seem to understand what I am saying. They have a hole at RT. The guy who couldn’t beat out Taylor isn’t the answer. We had a bad player and went 6-11 so we don’t need anyone there isn’t a strong argument.
FYI you are rating Taylor by PFF ratings. His PFF ratings are basically the same as they have always been and the sane that led the chiefs to pay him
20 mill. His PFF pass block rating is in the 40s, so if you trust PFF he’s a starting caliber pass protector.
I do understand what you are saying.
You are saying they created a hole by rehearsing a starter, I don’t disagree with that.
I don’t see it as an enormous hole tho. He is junk, and will be easily replaced be a better option, and probably cheaper.
Difference of opinion is all.
 
I do understand what you are saying.
You are saying they created a hole by rehearsing a starter, I don’t disagree with that.
I don’t see it as an enormous hole tho. He is junk, and will be easily replaced be a better option, and probably cheaper.
Difference of opinion is all.
Whether they have an effective RT this year is not measured against what they had last year. Even if he was as bad as you say, then they would still have an enormous hole if they kept him.
RT play isn’t grading on a curve of who you had last year.
Given they were 6-11 it’s clear they have many holes so crowing about saving 20 mill needs to be tempered by the fact they now also have no RT.
Do you disagree not having a RT is a huge hole?
 
Whether they have an effective RT this year is not measured against what they had last year. Even if he was as bad as you say, then they would still have an enormous hole if they kept him.
RT play isn’t grading on a curve of who you had last year.
Given they were 6-11 it’s clear they have many holes so crowing about saving 20 mill needs to be tempered by the fact they now also have no RT.
Do you disagree not having a RT is a huge hole?
This is where we differ.
I don’t see not having Taylor as your RT a huge hole.
They still have backups that were equally effective. It’s not like they don’t have a RT on the roster.
That said I’m sure they will look to FA or the draft to upgrade the position.
So you could certainly consider it a hole, I’m not arguing that, but they could get equal play from guys still on their roster.
Whether it Taylor or a backup, neither option was good enough, they would be looking to upgrade RT even if he wasn’t released. Based on performance the hole was there before his release.
 
He may be bad but apparently KC found him to be their best at that position.
If they found him to be the best, then why did they cut him?

Because for them, it's addition by subtraction.

They have Esa Pole and Jaylon Moore as their top Reserve Tackles. They clearly felt that both played well enough to be given the chance to win the RT position while saving themselves $20M against the cap.
 
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This is where we differ.
I don’t see not having Taylor as your RT a huge hole.
They still have backups that were equally effective. It’s not like they don’t have a RT on the roster.
That said I’m sure they will look to FA or the draft to upgrade the position.
So you could certainly consider it a hole, I’m not arguing that, but they could get equal play from guys still on their roster.
Whether it Taylor or a backup, neither option was good enough, they would be looking to upgrade RT even if he wasn’t released. Based on performance the hole was there before his release.
What backups?

Do you seriously think having bad players at a position doesn’t create a need because you had bad players last year and went 6-11?
By that logic when the patriots drafted Maye it wasn’t a huge hole.

You seem to be focused on Taylor rather than what they need to do at the position.
 
He may be bad but apparently KC found him to be their best at that position.
Whether he was the best RT in the NFL or the worst, they now have no RT. Having no starting caliber guy at RT leaves you a huge hole to fill.
 
If they found him to be the best, then why did they cut him?

Because for them, it's addition by subtraction.

They have Esa Pole and Jaylon Moore as their top Reserve Tackles. They clearly felt that both played well enough to be given the chance to win the RT position while saving themselves $20M against the cap.
They cut him because of their cap situation.
If they felt those scrubs were good enough they would have benched Taylor last year.

I hope the chiefs agree with you and think they have no holes at OT so they can go 6-11 again. Esa Pole lmao
 
Whether he was the best RT in the NFL or the worst, they now have no RT. Having no starting caliber guy at RT leaves you a huge hole to fill.
You keep discounting the fact that Taylor stinks, and they needed to upgrade the position with or without him on the roster.
The guys that played when he went on IR played just as well, in fact better.
“having no starting caliber guy at RT leaves you a huge hole to fill”. Again, his backups were just as good, and we will see if Taylor is ever a “starting caliber RT” ever again.
If you have two plugs that are equal, and one hole, either one can be used. If one of those plugs costs $20m and is no more effective than a $5M plug, you don’t create a hole by getting rid of the $20M plug.
 
You keep discounting the fact that Taylor stinks, and they needed to upgrade the position with or without him on the roster.
The guys that played when he went on IR played just as well, in fact better.
“having no starting caliber guy at RT leaves you a huge hole to fill”. Again, his backups were just as good, and we will see if Taylor is ever a “starting caliber RT” ever again.
If you have two plugs that are equal, and one hole, either one can be used. If one of those plugs costs $20m and is no more effective than a $5M plug, you don’t create a hole by getting rid of the $20M plug.
What Andy is ignoring is that Taylor played himself off the team.. KC clearly feels that Pole or Moore are adequate replacements for Taylor and the money they save is a bonus.
 
It's about time the Chiefs got rid of Taylor as he was a major liability with his constant false starts and playing 5 yards off the LOS. His play was bush league. I seriously hope NE doesn't have any interest in him as one guy at NESN suggests they should.
 
What Andy is ignoring is that Taylor played himself off the team.. KC clearly feels that Pole or Moore are adequate replacements for Taylor and the money they save is a bonus.
Agreed.
It’s not hard to understand.
Either they have faith in the guys on the roster, so no huge hole or they planned to upgrade the position anyway because Taylor or his backups aren’t good enough.
The hole wasn’t created upon Taylor’s release, the hole was created by Taylor’s ineffective play.
 
What Andy is ignoring is that Taylor played himself off the team.. KC clearly feels that Pole or Moore are adequate replacements for Taylor and the money they save is a bonus.
You think that they will go into the season with the guys who couldn’t beat Taylor out as starters and not address RT? I hope you are right because that will be a disaster for them.
They didn’t cut Taylor because his backups are better, they would have played ahead of him if they were. They cut him because of his cap number.
 
Agreed.
It’s not hard to understand.
Either they have faith in the guys on the roster, so no huge hole or they planned to upgrade the position anyway because Taylor or his backups aren’t good enough.
The hole wasn’t created upon Taylor’s release, the hole was created by Taylor’s ineffective play.
The hole exists. The cap space they have needs to be used in part to address that hole.
That’s what I’ve been saying all along.
 
Sometimes it's coaches like Vrabel that humble players like Pickens. If the staff made a push for him, I'd trust that they had a plan in place for them to keep their head down.

That being said, I doubt Vrabel thinks he can do much with him

As much respect as I have for Vrabel and his ability to manage players Pickens is one player I want absolutely nothing to do with. He's a major league ******* who doesn't give one **** about any team he's on. He's a punk.
 
Dude gets fined multiple times. I'm reminded of the blonde joke where the woman mistook the iron for the phone, answered the iron when the phone rang, burned her face. When the doctor asked how she burned the other side of her face, she said the people called back. That's Pickens. He just doesn't learn. I don't think you can coach this out of him. It's who he is; a knucklehead.

Won't matter. Jerry will keep him.

He's a punk.
 
As much respect as I have for Vrabel and his ability to manage players Pickens is one player I want absolutely nothing to do with. He's a major league ******* who doesn't give one **** about any team he's on. He's a punk.
I'm with you.
He's a very talented player, but he is a ticking time bomb.
For me it's not a matter of if he will go off, it's when.
 
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