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I saw on TBD someone suggest Allen should be the MVP, and I think he has a point.
These awards are becoming self defeating though. Not to argue with you (I think he is HOF caliber myself) but your argument boils down to “we voted him in because we voted for him a lot for other stuff previously”
He was DROY, DPOY and 7x All-Pro. 8 years is long enough, imo with that kind of resume.
8 year career pretty much entirely as one of the 2 best players in the league at your position is technically more hall of fame than someone who was good for 15 years but never great, i would rather let in the elite with shorter careers than a compiler.
It’s gonna be really fun watching Joe Brady continue to misuse him
There's no denying that underqualified people like Sam Monson, Dan Orlovsky are changing the history of football with these votes that one vote for Stafford is going to be huge in swinging his HOF chances, he's a fringe guy with numbers but no playoff wins in Detroit and only 1 ring now having an MVP is huge.
That's why Second Team and the Pro Bowl also exist. Guys who are generally considered best or second best are going to get precedence over other players. Maye didn't win MVP or First Team, but he got Second Team which is a big boost longterm to his argument
I mean the issue is that take Orlovsky out of it, you have 23 to 23 votes. It's not like Orlovsky is out of pocket for voting for a legit candidate. Monson is, but the flipside is he also probably wasn't going to give Maye that vote and another first place vote for Stafford puts us back where we are.
Exactly. Meanwhile this year on NE we had Marcus Jones get completely snubbed by the Pro Bowl in favor of freaking Ray Davis and barely made second team All Pro despite being the literal best PR in the league. That crap adds up, if Jones wants a shot at the Hall he needs these awards to make a case.
Supposedly, but I have a hard time thinking that Second Team is viewed nearly as favorably as First Team by the dinks voting for HOF membership.
He won Defensive Player of the Month for October as well.
I would argue he deserved a lot more defensive accolades this year… at least he got the biggest accolade - a fat raise.
How much you wanna bet it’s the second one, with someone dumping on Maye just out of spite?
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