Official Post Game Thread - Pats beat the Skins

Lacosse looks awful. And while Izzo had a nice game, that's not who he is.

Hopefully an ancient Watson will be a nice improvement.

Nuge's PAT miss was pretty funny if it wasn't equally infuriating...

bormio said:

The defense has really given up 20 points in 5 games (and 23 in 6 counting the SB). I know the 5 opponents this year are not offensive juggernauts, but in today’s NFL that is mind-blowing.

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Precisely.
Sure, it's worth noting we haven't played 5 greatest shows on turf, however, even middling to worse pro offenses are not consistently held to =<7 per game for 5 weeks by accident. When your D can rush the passer with some consistency, stop the run with some consistency, and even completed passes are mostly competitively defensed, that simply is going to be difficult for almost any offense to sustain drives that require converting multiple third downs.

The D may lay an egg on a play or drive (like AP's run today) but until DC's figure out something BB and staff don't know or have covered up well so far, multiple sustained drives against this D will be a tough road to hoe for most.

They may trade for EVAN ENGRAM TE GIANTS.

Refs certainly are assisting KC

kennyb said:

They may trade for EVAN ENGRAM TE GIANTS.

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Try to not have any binkys anymore but I can't deny Engram & a few others. He's so good & getting better. We haven't had anyone like him in a long time. On pace for 100/1000/8

AndyJohnson said:

If he is too wide to get there, nothing is wrong.

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My recollection is he came pretty damn close both times, at least close enough to potentially make Nugent rush his kick.

kennyb said:

They may trade for EVAN ENGRAM TE GIANTS.

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Why would the Giants make that trade?

SlowGettingUp said:

My recollection is he came pretty damn close both times, at least close enough to potentially make Nugent rush his kick.

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That’s not what I saw and a kicker doesn’t rush his kick based upon a rusher, it’s a set rhythm and timing.
The larger point being it’s smart football to not reach out to a guy who is too wife to get there because when you do that you open a hole for a guy who is a legitimate threat to get there. Omg we didn’t block the guy who we too far outside to get to the kicker is not a problem.

BaconGrundleCandy said:

Try to not have any binkys anymore but I can't deny Engram & a few others. He's so good & getting better. We haven't had anyone like him in a long time. On pace for 100/1000/8

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Did I misunderstand or did you say we haven’t had a TE as good as Evan Engram in a long time?

AndyJohnson said:

Did I misunderstand or did you say we haven’t had a TE as good as Evan Engram in a long time?

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I think you heard it right

bormio said:

I think you heard it right

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So Evan engram is better than gronk?

AndyJohnson said:

Did I misunderstand or did you say we haven’t had a TE as good as Evan Engram in a long time?

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bormio said:

I think you heard it right

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No, all he said was, “We haven't had anyone like him in a long time.” And we haven’t. Engram is as close to AHern on the field as anyone in the game has been. And it’s been 6 years since we’ve had that. Not to speak for Bacon, but he was banging on the desk for Engram back in 2017 in the draft forum, thinking he would be the perfect replacement for Hernandez to recreate the 2-TE offense with Gronk. Ultimately he went too high (pick 23) and the Pats decided to trade 32 for Brandin Cooks so it couldn’t happen anyway.

AndyJohnson said:

Did I misunderstand or did you say we haven’t had a TE as good as Evan Engram in a long time?

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bormio said:

I think you heard it right

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AndyJohnson said:

So Evan engram is better than gronk?

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You can't spend all day in a football forum & be this clueless.

Completely different players, positions, tasked w doing different things.

BaconGrundleCandy said:

You can't spend all day in a football forum & be this clueless.

Completely different players, positions, tasked w doing different things.

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I asked you a question. You can answer without being a d/ck

AndyJohnson said:

I asked you a question. You can answer without being a d/ck

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Please. You'll go down a 238 page rabbit hole at the drop of a dime.

You read my post abt Evan Engram & wrote this...

AndyJohnson said:

So Evan engram is better than gronk?

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AndyJohnson said:

Did I misunderstand or did you say we haven’t had a TE as good as Evan Engram in a long time?

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They don't play the same position. Not even close to the same player. So it's not a stretch for one to conclude you either don't know what you're talking abt or just trolling.

BaconGrundleCandy said:

Please. You'll go down a 238 page rabbit hole at the drop of a dime.

You read my post abt Evan Engram & wrote this...

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I literally asked DID I MISUNDERSTAND YOU.

They don't play the same position. Not even close to the same player. So it's not a stretch for one to conclude you either don't know what you're talking abt or just trolling.

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They are both TEs.

In any event, you answered my question and clarified what you meant, which is, you know, why i asked.
Sadly you decided to attack and attempt to insult me in order to do so.

I have never personally insulted you, and would appreciate the same.

So what part of Engram is better than Gronk? Receiving, 3rd down and RZ receiving, downfield receiving, blocking - they are not the same player .... for sure.

bormio said:

So what part of Engram is better than Gronk? Receiving, 3rd down and RZ receiving, downfield receiving, blocking - they are not the same player .... for sure.

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Availability in 2019

Deus Irae said:

Availability in 2019

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Agreed - not saying we should not look at him. But we did have someone better in every phase of TE play the last several years.