Those guys that play against Brady get paid too. Some players are good at reading Brady some aren't.
Granted, last night Brady had a horrible game but the D bailed him out...but that's what your D is supposed to do.
Precisely. The majority of Pats playoff victories has been due to the defense, not spectacular play by Brady. In his playoff career, Brady has "choked" just as often as Manning but he has more wins due to being on a team with a much better defense than Manning has had overall in his career.
Case in point:
In 16 games, the Pats D has allowed 20 pts or less 63% of the times. All wins.
In 12 games, the Colts D has allowed 20 pts or less 42% of the times and Peyton has 4 wins and 1 loss.
The Pats D has allowed 21 or more pts only in 25% of the 16 playoff games.
Brady's track record when actually called upon to bail out his defense? A gaudy 2/2 (50% wins). What a "big game QB"
Indy's D has allowed 21 or more pts in 50% of 12 playoff games.
Manning's track record when called upon to bail out his defense? Why, it's the same 50% as Brady's (3/3). What a "choker"
Let's look at some of Manning's playoff loses, the pts scored and how he would have fared if he played with the Pats D.
Manning's O generated the following points in his losses
0, 17, 3, 18, 24.
In 3 out of 5 of these instances, those points would have been good enough to win, had Manning had the Pats D in 2001, 2003, 2004, 2007.
To summarize:
Brady has more playoff wins than Manning largely because he has played with better defenses than Manning. This fact is supported by the statistical evidence that show that the playoff performances of each QB are more similar than dissimilar. Additionally, Brady has fared no better than Manning when he has had to pick up the slack when his D plays poorly. Lastly, a team winning in spite of Brady's performance on Sunday doesn't change the fact that it was the performance of a "choker", just like Manning's wins against Balt and KC last year doesn't change the fact that he also had the performance of a "choker" in those games.
you failed to mention bradys game in super bowl 36, when he lead one of the best drives in NFL history to get MVP in his first year as a starter. you failed to mention played well in the jets game in 2006, and the jags game in 2005. you also failed to defend mannings performances when he was unable to generate many points in the playoff losses the colts have suffered, such as the jets game, the two in new england, and the steelers game. manning last year had 3 tds and 7 ints in the postseason. while you comapre the ravens games, then take a look at the two regular season games in 2007 (since you wanted to compare those) when these qbs faced the chargers. brady has never had 6 ints in a game EVER
Brady's "drive" consisted of some dump off passes to which his receivers added tons of YAC. Brady is to be commended for staying cool and not trying to do too much but the outcome of that superbowl was more the result of good defense, good play by the receivers and an ice cold Vinetari than it was any special play by Brady.
Manning's O had two poor games in the playoffs (i.e. games which even the Pats D wouldn't have won for him) against the Jets and against the Pats. Pats had one of the better defenses and went on to win the SB so it's not exactly a "choke" to lose to that team. Manning also performed well in that game. The Colts lost because of miscues by Colts players like Edge and Pollard as well as the Pats running game which kept Manning sidelined. Manning has had 4 choke games, 2002, 2003, 2006 KC/Balt. Brady has had 4 choke games, 2005, 2006 SD/Indy, 2007 SD. Neither player is what I would consider a "big game QB" due to their inconsistency but Manning is more likely to generate a TD when needed than is Brady.
Tom Brady had to brave the wintery elements as opposed to a cushy atmospheric controlled environment of the NaPolian Colts domed stadium.
Weis stated prior to the game that only winds in excess of 20 MPH ("40 miles") would affect the passing game. Brady's interceptions were not caused by the "weather", they were poor throws/bad decisions. Brady's inaccuracy was not caused by the weather as Rivers had no problems finding his guys nor did the punters/kickers have problems. Belichick stated that the weather was not an issue. Brady is used to playing outdoors so the weather should not have affected him. Also, "big game QBs" don't have shoddy games simply because they are faced with "wintery elements". Chokers, possibly, but I think you're supposed to be arguing that Brady isn't a "choker".
Your statement holds no water since the Patriots won while the Colts lost.
Your claim would be true only if one believes that a QB is defined as a "choker" only if the QB's team loses. So I guess, using your definition, if the Pats had lost the Jacksonville game due to a porous D, Brady would have been a "choker" while Manning's performance in the Balt game would be considered "great". Real nice logic
Pure bull since Manning overthrew Reggie Wayne and threw behind Kenton Keith for his two interceptions in the game.
Manning's pass to Wayne was a bit high, which is why I attributed it to Manning. His pass to Keith was more catchable than half of Brady's completions to Faulk and Keith should have caught it. That INT is on Keith.
Manning has the option of run or pass on every play. Manning chose to be the stat hound. Addai was one of the AFC Pro-Bowl representatives at running back for the 2007 NFL season in only his second season. Addai had an overall better season than Maroney.
Addai had a 3.3 YPA in that game which supports the visual evidence that the Chargers shut down the Colts running game. Manning had no problem throwing the ball against the Chargers secondary so he correctly chose that option and it worked since he moved the team up and down the field against the Chargers.
The Colts defense led the NFL in points allowed. If the Colts decided to stay balanced on offense they would have had a better chance against the Chargers and not hang their defense out to dry.
If that Colts D had shown up, then the Colts would have won going away. However, the Colts D that came to play on that day was terrible. The Colts D didn't force a punt from SD in their first three drives of the game. In contrast, the Pats D forced punts on SD's first three drives of the game.
The Colt's "unbalanced" offense was a result of the Chargers stuffing the Colts running game and the success that Manning was having against the Chargers secondary. The Colts O didn't "hang their defense out to dry", as they scored a TD on their first offensive series. Manning then led the Colts offense into SD's redzone on the second series and only a Harrison fumble prevented another score. Manning again led the Colts into SD's territory on Indy's 3rd series and scored a FG.
If you want to see an O that hung its defense "out to dry", take a look at your Brady led Pats' O. Here are the results of the first three series:
1st drive - 3/out punt ; 2nd drive - one first down/punt ; 3rd drive - INT
Oh, by the way, on Indy's first 3 drives, Manning was 15/17, and generated 10 pts (which would have been at least 13 without Harrison's fumble)
Brady by comparison on the Pats first 3 drives was 2/7, INT, 1 first down, 0 points generated.
Yeah, Manning "left his defense out to dry" and Brady is not a "choker".
You have already dug yourself a six foot grave. It's your choice, dive in head first or be nudged in head first. I'm ready with the shovel for the coup de grace.
You have already proved, with your claims about Manning "hanging his defense out to dry", that you're quite delusional so there's no need to provide more evidence.
LMAO!
