Celtics 2025-2026 Discussion

[ViperGTS]

I really don’t see how Miami gets it done instead of the Celtics. Celtics can give Milwaukee the best current player, flexibility, and another future trade chip.

I can see Houston getting this done before Miami.

Welp that aged well. I truly think the only people who thought the Celtics would give up Brown and tons of assets for the Greek Dud was the media. As always they bought it hook line and sinker as always.

Shams and his loser friends can report all day long that Brown was on the block for the Dud. He wasn't just as he wasn't for Paul George or whatever flavor of the week. I stayed out of this one because it was a joke from afar.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Welp that aged well. I truly think the only people who thought the Celtics would give up Brown and tons of assets for the Greek Dud was the media. As always they bought it hook line and sinker as always.

Shams and his loser friends can report all day long that Brown was on the block for the Dud. He wasn't just as he wasn't for Paul George or whatever flavor of the week. I stayed out of this one because it was a joke from afar.

I don’t know on this obviously we don’t know what’s actually happening behind the scenes. A handful of pretty high-level reporters said the Celtics were willing to trade Brown. Brown had some kind of social media thing where he made a reference to it. The Celtics were clearly unwilling to trade away a ton of assets and future draft picks.

Pat Riley is taking a victory lap… I guess he won’t be around from 2030 to 2034 when the heat have no picks and may be giving away high lottery picks during that time. The consensus on social media is basically that Milwaukee absolutely fleeced Miami. The response from Miami fans is that they weren’t going anywhere anyway so might as well shake it up. And I would agree with that except that they’ll be paying for this pick for the next seven years, which is a long time. So I think the Celtics had a pretty good offer if they actually wanted Giannis as they still would’ve had decent flexibility to get some other role players to support the team and then not be totally out of commission into the next decade.

But yeah, overall, Giannis isn’t a player who I enjoy watching. I’ve never really thought that he is the type of generational player who you give up a franchise to build around though he’s a very good player. The key I’ve always thought is that those Milwaukee teams were actually pretty darn good, but it seems like there are a lot of excuses from the media acting like he’s carrying a bunch of garbage players. They had a pretty solid roster with multiple All-Stars and guys like Middleton, Lopez and Jrue. So yes, he’s a heck of a player, but like many other others requires a lot of help. We’ve seen when the teams are really bad that he really won’t carry them. Which is why the Miami trade is kind of puzzling and almost seems like Pat Riley just wanted to win this bidding war and land a big star because I don’t see how that team is going to even contend in any way.

The other thing I’ve always wondered and I’m just not sure is how good he is on defense when he actually has to play against other bigs. He’s well known for being a good defender, but he’s more of like a quick athletic tall wing player with some power than a classic guy who can body up and shut down a center underneath. So would he have solved the Celtics problem? I think he would’ve improved it, but they still may be looking for a Robert Williams type of rim protector in addition to Giannis too. I guess it’s all a moot point now.

 

[ViperGTS]

I don’t know on this obviously we don’t know what’s actually happening behind the scenes. A handful of pretty high-level reporters said the Celtics were willing to trade Brown. Brown had some kind of social media thing where he made a reference to it. The Celtics were clearly unwilling to trade away a ton of assets and future draft picks.

Pat Riley is taking a victory lap… I guess he won’t be around from 2030 to 2034 when the heat have no picks and may be giving away high lottery picks during that time. The consensus on social media is basically that Milwaukee absolutely fleeced Miami. The response from Miami fans is that they weren’t going anywhere anyway so might as well shake it up. And I would agree with that except that they’ll be paying for this pick for the next seven years, which is a long time. So I think the Celtics had a pretty good offer if they actually wanted Giannis as they still would’ve had decent flexibility to get some other role players to support the team and then not be totally out of commission into the next decade.

But yeah, overall, Giannis isn’t a player who I enjoy watching. I’ve never really thought that he is the type of generational player who you give up a franchise to build around though he’s a very good player. The key I’ve always thought is that those Milwaukee teams were actually pretty darn good, but it seems like there are a lot of excuses from the media acting like he’s carrying a bunch of garbage players. They had a pretty solid roster with multiple All-Stars and guys like Middleton, Lopez and Jrue. So yes, he’s a heck of a player, but like many other others requires a lot of help. We’ve seen when the teams are really bad that he really won’t carry them. Which is why the Miami trade is kind of puzzling and almost seems like Pat Riley just wanted to win this bidding war and land a big star because I don’t see how that team is going to even contend in any way.

The other thing I’ve always wondered and I’m just not sure is how good he is on defense when he actually has to play against other bigs. He’s well known for being a good defender, but he’s more of like a quick athletic tall wing player with some power than a classic guy who can body up and shut down a center underneath. So would he have solved the Celtics problem? I think he would’ve improved it, but they still may be looking for a Robert Williams type of rim protector in addition to Giannis too. I guess it’s all a moot point now.

Thats all pretty fair but I still think the Brown stuff was a smokescreen. I can see it was like this as usual. "Hey we are interested in the Dud." "Cool how about a package with Jaylen for the Dud?" Brad "Nah no thanks".

Reporting comes that Brad offered Brown. No chance Brad is stupid enough to not know what needed to be done and he was never going there. Thats why I think more and more this wasn't even close. You are right about Miami though, this is bad move for them.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I don’t know on this obviously we don’t know what’s actually happening behind the scenes. A handful of pretty high-level reporters said the Celtics were willing to trade Brown. Brown had some kind of social media thing where he made a reference to it. The Celtics were clearly unwilling to trade away a ton of assets and future draft picks.

Some reports state co-owner Jimmy Haslam [yes, THAT guy] steered the Bucks toward a Miami because he didn't want to have Brown wanting out a year from now.

 

[aluminum seats]

Shams and his loser friends can report all day long that Brown was on the block for the Dud. He wasn't

Eh, I’m pretty sure he was.

Anyway, it is what it is. I would’ve liked to have seen the trade happen for sure but on we go.

 

[ErniesPinkStripes]

Going to be interesting to see what happens..


What a haul for Milwaukee, good for them.

Also, that city gets crapped on way too much - I went there for a certification years back and my stay was great, definitely will return.

 

[bresna]

Some reports state co-owner Jimmy Haslam [yes, THAT guy] steered the Bucks toward a Miami because he didn't want to have Brown wanting out a year from now.

What? Jaylen Brown is signed for 3 more years, guaranteed, with no player or team options. He's also eligible for a salary bump if traded. Brown is not going to want out of a $60+ Million annual salary. So if Haslam said that, he's a moron.

After doing some research, I see that Giannis is now eligible to sign a 4 year/$275 Million "Max" contract with the Heat in 6 months. If that if the Heat's plans, they are even dumber than I thought.

It seems like every NBA team thinks their big-name players can play at a high level into their 40s like LeBron James. That's not necessarily true & Giannis has already shown signs of breaking down. LeBron & Brady have created this unreasonable expectation of a player's longevity. Not everyone can be a LeBron or TB12.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I'm OK w/ not having Giannis. I am a little concerned about JB's morale moving forward.

In Brad I Trust (as long as he acquires players who rebound, block shots and can score with regularity inside 15ft)

 

[RobertWeathers]

I don’t know how legit this specific reporter is, but multiple national reporters are also saying that Minnesota is trying to get Derrick White. I really hope the Celtics do not do this trade.

I love everything about DWhite except his shooting and age.

Might be good timing to move on while he still has value.

 

[borisman]

It seems like every NBA team thinks their big-name players can play at a high level into their 40s like LeBron James. That's not necessarily true & Giannis has already shown signs of breaking down. LeBron & Brady have created this unreasonable expectation of a player's longevity. Not everyone can be a LeBron or TB12.

Ok, this is not a fair comparisson. LeBron is cooked. At age 42 this is very likely his last season. You know he'll run it back again because he wants his flowers from all the teams. But his athleticism is deserting him. I used to play and when I lost my athleticism about the same age I was a very different player and couldn't dominate and it never comes back. I'll be Max Kellerman and be right for once and say "LeBron will fall off the cliff" this year. Sure he'll be able to make some passes and make some 3's but he's toast as far as "best player on the team" is concerned. He'll average about 18 this next season (which probably 70 other players do), and he'll surely try to pad some stats in certain games. Brady though, no where near the athlete, was still cooking at 43, 44 and had a career high of nealy 500 completions at age 45.
Just for the record, I am very biased and I hate LeBron ("not one, not two, not three, not four, not 5, not 6...."). So there's that as well

 

[borisman]

More drama talk incoming

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

More drama talk incoming

Less likely, but it could happen today. We will see, but I doubt it.

Sell high with JB's knee and get a cost controlled rookie? I have no idea if there is a draft pick that would make a difference, and if there is a team looking for Brown to make a run who has a high enough draft pick.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

More drama talk incoming

It’s gonna be funny if the Celtics pull in more draft comp than the Bucks got

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Kalshi has Brown at only 42% to stay with Celtics. That doesn’t necessarily mean today, but in the next six months so most likely today he’s traded according to betting odds.

In other words, not a wild rumor.

As of right now, there’s no major front runner to trade for him. Pelicans leading at only 14% so it’s really just a hodgepodge of possible suitors.

 

[JoeSixPat]

i’ll be honest I’m a little disappointed. The idea was definitely starting to grow on me as the Celtics emerged as favorites. But I don’t know… three first round picks plus a swap, a borderline franchise player, most of your young talent.

I think the real winner here is probably the Knicks since it seems the entire Eastern conference failed to really get better. Milwaukee did a decent job of getting somewhat of a haul in the end since predictively Miami gave up everything they could.

I don’t see how Miami will be anything better than like a fifth or sixth seed even in the east. I kind of understand the Bucks reasoning. Even if they could trade Jaylen Brown, they still may end up with similar or even less draft comp than they’re getting from the Heat. But I think there was more upside with the Celtics offer. They would’ve had likely two first round picks and could potentially have flipped Brown for three more.

It all comes down to how healthy Giannis is for Miami. A healthy Giannis and Tatum would have made the Celtics better IMO - much worse off if he continues to have injury woes.

Hopefully JB doesn't get miffed he was in trade talks after a career season - but the fact of the matter is that Giannis commands more for a trade than just Brown and there's no way the Bucks would have gotten that haul by trading for Brown and flipping him to another team. We would not have thrown in all the draft picks and players they were looking for.

I guess we'll see if any of the other players get traded along the way but for right now, instead of swapping two 27 ppg players and backfilling with a scoring wing, though adding a strong C, we still have our two 27-30 ppg guys in Tatum and Brown, and will be looking for a C who won't be as good or expensive as Giannis, but will still could be a double double guy.

We don't really need a C who can score 30 a game if we have Brown and Tatum - but we do need a banger in the middle who can get us 2 when we need them.

I'm not extremely hopeful that we see a decent C slide to us in the draft, but that's ok - better to get a veteran on the FA or trade market than to expect a rookie C to make an impact anyways. They'll pick the best player available and probably someone good at 3s, even though we know what the team needs is a big man to score 2.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Kalshi has Brown at only 42% to stay with Celtics. That doesn’t necessarily mean today, but in the next six months so most likely today he’s traded according to betting odds.

In other words, not a wild rumor.

As of right now, there’s no major front runner to trade for him. Pelicans leading at only 14% so it’s really just a hodgepodge of possible suitors.

They may be right but I think Kalshi is just what the betting public thinks. And while I'm sure some NBA players and insiders likely trade on Kalshi, for the most part these are not people with any inside info.

That being said, unless someone blows them out of the water with a great offer, depending on how this season goes he could still be on the block (like everyone else not named Tatum) and if he turns disgruntled and insulted due to the trade rumors, he could certainly be traded in season.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Yes!!!!! I was hoping the Celtics wouldn't trade for the Greek loser Dud. Miami does it again, and will never win with him. Of course Brown is back from the trade BS.

I'm kindof floored by the 3 first round picks and four players for him (all of whom are decent and account for 50 points a game). Miami won't pick in the first round again until 2029 - I hope they like their lineup because that's what they've got for awhile - maybe 10 players and 5 guys who are developmental but are on the bench.

This could be the Bucks version of our trade that netted us JB and Tatum in the first place as I'd think they're not done trading some of the players they aquired from the trade.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Some of the Celtics Plan Bs are already being traded so one wonders if we might see some activity soon

Nic Claxon was one I was keeping my eye on but he just got traded to the Bulls

There's been some chatter about Domantas Sabonis but with a $40 million salary I don't see that happening unless they do trade Brown, which I don't think they will at this juncture.

Another that intrigues me more is Walker Kessler, who's a restricted FA with Utah (and Ainge is often willing to deal with the Cs) - he's not yet fully hit his stride and he knows it - though his numbers are already good. He reportedly turned down a 5 year $140 million deal from Utah - but if he wants a title, Boston is better than Utah.

Kessler was potentially going to be traded to the Bulls but the Claxon trade just nixed that

Assuming he'd sign a similar contract here they can likely get him under the $27.5 mil exemption for Simons and add more money to the next 3 years when they'll be out from under the luxury tax.

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[BTTA]

It’s happening…

Do we know who that guy is? Does he know he's a meme?

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

The Celtics are a contender, probably a top 5 team or at very least a top 8 team. They have two star players still in their prime and a very decent group of younger players who could develop.

The right move in this situation is not to blow up your entire franchise for one player in hopes that guy is the answer. From everything I read, Milwaukee went with Miami’s offer because Miami was willing to go much deeper into the draft compensation. It sounds like Miami wanted the Celtics to go three or four years deep with first rounders, swaps, etc.. We’ve seen this **** happen with other teams like with Paul George and Kevin Durant.

And on that note, I think a lot of of us are very glad that the Celtics missed out on trading for Kevin Durant. Sure, we don’t know what would’ve happened and maybe they would’ve won a ring or even too, but my money is on. They would’ve won zero rings just based on everything we’ve seen with Durant since he left the Warriors.

I think the Celtics played this one well. Yeah maybe Jaylen Brown is upset or will be upset, but it sounds like there’s already some issues there, and bottom line is he’s a professional and I expect him to play at a high-level if he’s with the Celtics, going forward. It’s in everyone’s best interest, including his own. That’s just pro sports, the guy is getting like a quarter billion dollars, and he isn’t dumb. If he’s back, he’ll be focused and playing basketball the right way.

One of the things with the NBA is that there’s not like a lot of secret ways to build a great team. Yeah, there are definitely some hacks and we’ve seen some great plans, but overall there’s a very limited group of available players.