OT: Will Anderson gets paid - and paid a lot - like a whole lot

[Huckleberry1]

I hear what you are saying , let them reduce the games to 16. The way the world order is moving with AI and billionaire domination, not sure what the future holds and it's definitely not looking rosy.

I have a lot of friends in their 20's, my advice to all of them is to get out of America.

 

[Thelonious]

Most people I know find these salaries obscene, decadent, ugly. They have a point, demonstrating as such compensation does that we value the ability of some freakish knuckledragging mesomorph to collide with other mesomorphs over any number of other far more actually worthwhile skill sets and life choices. We are as indifferent to whatever other - actual - virtues these paragons might have as we are to their rather abundant vices, and pay the latter as little mind as we possibly can. We are similarly generous to young women who display their pudenda online for a fee, to "musicians" who chant vulgarities, to politicians willing to mouth whatever political delusions we care to embrace, and to "celebrities" whose only virtues are well-crafted asses and hypertrophic bosoms made of plastic.

For this and several other reasons,bearing upon other "merits" of athletics - college and pro - following sports has become an increasingly guilty pleasure. This latest obscenity is likely not the final straw, but the pile grows high indeed.

 

[Thelonious]

I have a lot of friends in their 20's, my advice to all of them is to get out of America.

The loss to the nation might not be nearly as great as we might wish.

 

[The Gr8est]

These contracts are ridiculous.

I don’t know what is going to change but something has to happen the sky is not the limit, at some point these contracts are going to be untenable.

What if at some point the fans tune out and find other things to do?

It isn’t as simple as just turning on your television on Sunday like it used to be.

The NFL is in the process of killing itself with all of the changes they are making; games almost every day of the week and on different pay services, adding more games, games in different countries, new kickoff rules, etc.

 

[The Gr8est]

I think that it's all going to come down to drafting and developing players. The guys getting monster deals are great players, and I understand why teams and fans don't want to lose them. I'm a big fan of an Gonzalez, and he deserves to get a big deal, but I don't see how you can give 3-4 guys half the payroll and be competitive. I do think however that the Patriots arein a good situation, because I believe that Vrabel and Co. can continue to draft really well, and that they are committed to developing their players. We will have a good deal f I'm right or not by this time next year. If they have another rookie class like this one they are going to be in very good shape, and the future will be bright.

And just another reason why it would be asinine to trade a high draft pick(s) for the aging, injured, expensive and potentially disruptive AJ Brown.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I don’t know what is going to change but something has to happen the sky is not the limit, at some point these contracts are going to be untenable.

What if at some point the fans tune out and find other things to do?

It isn’t as simple as just turning on your television on Sunday like it used to be.

The NFL is in the process of killing itself with all of the changes they are making; games almost every day of the week and on different pay services, adding more games, games in different countries, new kickoff rules, etc.

The owners want rules to protect themselves from giving out huge contracts, which is patently ridiculous. It's like the Cleavon Lttle scene in Blazing Saddles where he puts a gun to his own head and says " if anyone moves the ni@@a gets it!"

 

[n1997y]

Yes, they are. The prices for tickets and everything needs to come down. Seeing some reports that Gonzo wants 50 per. **** all that. I wonder when the end is. Seems untenable.

Seen gas prices? Costs a lot to fuel those Bentleys, their gas mileage isn’t great.

 

[n1997y]

The loss to the nation might not be nearly as great as we might wish.

I think you’re right. Every day it seems there is less and less to lose. Already is not much left.

 

[Thelonious]

I think you’re right. Every day it seems there is less and less to lose. Already is not much left.

Over the past couple of years, I have read a lot of history re how leftist insurrections undermine and destroy democracies. I have studied, in the interest of balance, I suppose, the remarkably similar manner in which Hitler undermined the Weimar Republic and how Pol Pot subverted the previous government in Cambodia. I have also read over the years about the decline of Rome (Gibbons' Decline and Fall is one of my favorite books.) I have read about Mao's Cultural Revolution and Stalin's evil machinations. The sad conclusion of all this reading must be that we are well on the way to our end game as a nation, perhaps as a Western Culture. I do not at see that we have the stamina, the backbone, the moral rectitude, or the commitment to individual responsibility to reverse the trend. I'm an old bastard, likely not to see the worst of it, but if I were young, I would be very worried indeed, worried enough to do far more than wave asinine placards down at the strip mall hand in hand with old hippy geriatric burnouts and angry fat chicks who majored in sociology or women's studies.

 

[n1997y]

The key to winning the Lombardi is having healthy players. Not having star players.

The real key to the Patriots dynasties was always having a very solid middle class on the roster.

Paying excessively high salaries to truly generational players may pay off but it’s a high stakes gamble. More reliable approach is building a solid well balanced team that can remain competitive even if there are injuries.

One advantage of parting company with established veterans as they become too expensive is that their replacements are young and hungry. The youngsters will heal faster and be willing to play through some injuries that would sideline the highly paid assets.

It’s just dumb for a team to give any player boatloads of money AND a no-trade clause. That leaves the team with no way out when he starts mailing it in.

Man when I hear 70 plus per for Maye I am not even sold on that one either. IMO it's starting to become a draft extremely well, have coaches to develop said players and maybe you contend and trade guys once they start pinging the 100 per etc. Use said picks to reload and see what happens. The current situation is becoming untenable.

Also Houston just paid this and they don't have a QB. Brilliant.

I think the days of single team domination are over. With every position player now wanting to break bank , you need to be like the Seahawks and hope you get the right team at the right time and hope some of your rookie players become studs.

So in essence build depth via veterans and decent players and keep pinging on drafts and if you strike it right , trade then during their 4th or 5th year to recycle those picks .

I don't think 3 stud players can win you a trophy if they hog all the cap space . The league needs to bring cap restrictions at player level else the game will go for a toss. No single player should get more than 10% of team cap space which means 30 million cap on any player.

Wrong. The teams paying 3-4 guys huge money are going to be priced out of contention because the rest of their team will be dogshit. The teams that are smart and only give 1-2 guys the huge deal!'s will be the teams that will have the best shot at winning championships, they will just have draft and develop players better than their competition.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

Yep! Ty law said when he got paid it was unheard of for a CB to get his type of contract.. he was making 7M then.. I'm what gonzo is going to get..

times it by six or seven

 

[Wozzy]

They haven't paid CJ Stroud yet... they are stringing that out as long as they possibly can.

 

[Real fan 02]

times it by six or seven

Absolutely. Today's athletes greatly benefit from the work the player's and agents prior like ty law established with top of the market deals. Guys weren't just thinking about themselves they thought about future player's as well.

 

[Real fan 02]

They haven't paid CJ Stroud yet... they are stringing that out as long as they possibly can.

Agreed had one good season and has been solid but hasn't replicated his rookie season. He has weapons and elite defense and a great HC. There should be no reason for CJ not to take the leap into a top 5 QB.

Top 5 QBs

Josh Allen
Joe Burrow
Lamar Jackson
Drake Maye
Matt Stafford

 

[BennyBledsoe]

Absolutely. Today's athletes greatly benefit from the work the player's and agents prior like ty law established with top of the market deals. Guys weren't just thinking about themselves they thought about future player's as well.

That is why a lot of players were upset with Tom for not destroying the market every time.

 

[The Gr8est]

Over the past couple of years, I have read a lot of history re how leftist insurrections undermine and destroy democracies. I have studied, in the interest of balance, I suppose, the remarkably similar manner in which Hitler undermined the Weimar Republic and how Pol Pot subverted the previous government in Cambodia. I have also read over the years about the decline of Rome (Gibbons' Decline and Fall is one of my favorite books.) I have read about Mao's Cultural Revolution and Stalin's evil machinations. The sad conclusion of all this reading must be that we are well on the way to our end game as a nation, perhaps as a Western Culture. I do not at see that we have the stamina, the backbone, the moral rectitude, or the commitment to individual responsibility to reverse the trend. I'm an old bastard, likely not to see the worst of it, but if I were young, I would be very worried indeed, worried enough to do far more than wave asinine placards down at the strip mall hand in hand with old hippy geriatric burnouts and angry fat chicks who majored in sociology or women's studies.

One small correction when it pertains to us.

We do not have a democracy in the US, we have a representative republic.

“What kind of government have you given us Mr Franklin?”

“A republic madam, if you can keep it.”

 

[Real fan 02]

That is why a lot of players were upset with Tom for not destroying the market every time.

Great points! I believe the TB12 today would have held BBs feet to the fire with his contracts.. that guy then was all about the Great good of the overall team. However to have seen draft bust after bust you can see it wore on him by the time 2019 rolled around..

 

[Wozzy]

Agreed had one good season and has been solid but hasn't replicated his rookie season. He has weapons and elite defense and a great HC. There should be no reason for CJ not to take the leap into a top 5 QB.

Top 5 QBs

Josh Allen
Joe Burrow
Lamar Jackson
Drake Maye
Matt Stafford

His offensive line dealt with a lot of injuries last year. They also weren't a good rushing team. Stroud would benefit from a powerful run offense around him, he's not going to pass you to a ring.

 

[Real fan 02]

His offensive line dealt with a lot of injuries last year. They also weren't a good rushing team. Stroud would benefit from a powerful run offense around him, he's not going to pass you to a ring.

True. However elite QBs elevate as some on patsfans.com would say that we had a bad offensive line last year However Drake was only a MVP runner up! You absolutely need protection However you need to be able to elevate the offense as a starting QB in the league.

 

[Wozzy]

True. However elite QBs elevate as some on patsfans.com would say that we had a bad offensive line last year However Drake was only a MVP runner up! You absolutely need protection However you need to be able to elevate the offense as a starting QB in the league.

I'd call the offensive line we had last year average, somewhere right in the middle. The two rookies on the left side were mostly good, but inexperienced to games opposing defenses were running. Wilson was also giving away run or pass with his tells.

I'd also put some of the rushing and perhaps pass blocking inefficiency on our lack of a true blocking FB or blocking TE... and a little more on Josh's lack of creativity. He's a play caller, not an artist.

In short, last year's offensive line wasn't average because the talent was average, it was more a lack of execution and for a myriad of reasons... not least of which is they were an entirely new group unfamiliar with each other.

You don't get to a Super Bowl with a bad line. Anyone saying that has no perspective.