Poll: What are you willing to give up in a trade for a potential WR1?

[Joey007]

Curious where everyone is at here.

This answer may have some nuance depending on the receiver.

The main guys I’m thinking about would be Brian Thomas, AJ Brown, DJ Moore. Maybe even DK Metcalf if you’re feeling crazy.

I think I may be willing to give up a 1 and another conditional mid round pick for BTJ. AJ, probably a 2. DJ a 2-3.

 

[Clonamery]

My cult membership.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

I don't think BTJ "is" a WR1. That's a speculative add on him. He was awful last year. You could maybe talk me into giving a 1st if you there was a thorough scouting and character assessment to support that he'd play up to his draft status here.

Don't think DJ Moore is a WR1 at all. Wouldn't really have any interest in trading for him at a serious cost.

AJ Brown looked like he lost a step last year and then the attitude issues. A 2 would be fair if you are ok with that turning around here, but not a black and white call IMO.

 

[Steve102]

I see the Cult of Verticality meeting has been called to order.

 

[DaBruinz]

Where is the "Nothing" we don't need a "True #1" WR for this offense...

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Zero
That's what I'd give.
And btw, RLKAL1G

 

[pazrul72]

This is too nuanced to make a single vote, it really depends what #1 receiver you are talking about. Jefferson? Sure multiple firsts. AJ brown? A 2nd tops. Age salary fit with the team all factor into the draft compensation. I’m actually pretty happy with the current WR room, so many other positions need to be addressed before adding a #1 weapon.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

When people start saying they'd give up "nothing" or "zero" for a #1 WR and the cult of verticality stuff it's probably a sign that we can't have any intelligent discourse on the subject of WR acquisitions/improvement. I have not posted here long but I know during the Brady years the concept of if a WR1 was truly needed was a big sports radio talking point and it seems it's taken on sports talk radio caliber of discussion here. If anyone here ever suggests any improvement or acquisition at WR you get half the board screaming about how improving at WR is sacrilegious. I agree that fans who only box score watch and clamor for shiny new receivers can be annoying but we've really lost the plot when we act like WR1s are bad or that any marginal improvement at WR can never be a need.

 

[Mike the Brit]

So long as the Pats have Boutte, Hollins, Diggs and Douglas healthy and haven't lost faith in them, they should keep their powder dry. They're going to need it for a Tackle and an Edge Rusher. And, yes, RLKAG (maybe 2).

 

[Toofy]

If your QB needs a fantastic line, great RB and WR1 then that QB needs to be paid 30-35 million at tops.

If my QB is top 5 I expect them to work around without hof oline and bonafide wr 1.

Now the answer to the above poll lies in how do you rate Maye.

 

[Toofy]

Championship teams are built with in grown talent and not mercenary free agents unless it's just 1 resource in offense and couple more on defense.

 

[DaBruinz]

When people start saying they'd give up "nothing" or "zero" for a #1 WR and the cult of verticality stuff it's probably a sign that we can't have any intelligent discourse on the subject of WR acquisitions/improvement. I have not posted here long but I know during the Brady years the concept of if a WR1 was truly needed was a big sports radio talking point and it seems it's taken on sports talk radio caliber of discussion here. If anyone here ever suggests any improvement or acquisition at WR you get half the board screaming about how improving at WR is sacrilegious. I agree that fans who only box score watch and clamor for shiny new receivers can be annoying but we've really lost the plot when we act like WR1s are bad or that any marginal improvement at WR can never be a need.

Gotta love when you make s**t up. Not to mention YOU grossly misrepresenting the opinions of others. That's why there can never be intelligent discourse. Because you can't handle people not agreeing with your opinions you try to push as FACT. Like you did with Pierce.


The Pats were most successful, SB wise, when they spread the ball out and didn't have a true #1 receiver. When they could use anyone to beat you. When the Pats had Moss and Welker, they failed to win it all.

The problem with people like yourself is that you are unwilling to give young players a chance. If they don't produce to your expectations immediately, you think they're a waste and need to be replaced. What's interesting is that you seem to be one of the guys who ONLY box score watches and clamors for the "shiny new receivers".

No one is acting like having a WR1 is bad. That's YOU putting your issues onto others. People are saying that trading for one isn't needed. People are saying to let our players develop instead of putting unnecessary roadblocks in their way. You have Boutte who has continued to improve every year. You have Williams and Chism who are learning the pro game with Diggs and Hollins as mentors. This is a GOOD thing. Yet, the likes of you don't understand how badly the passing game was affected by the O-line play. Which is why those who do understand scowl at posts like yours. Because you aren't fixing or improving things. You're ignoring the problem for the shiny.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

If your QB needs a fantastic line, great RB and WR1 then that QB needs to be paid 30-35 million at tops.

If my QB is top 5 I expect them to work around without hof oline and bonafide wr 1.

Now the answer to the above poll lies in how do you rate Maye.

Just a reminder that for about a dozen years, Brady had at least two players in the top 5 among downfield WRs, slot WRs, TEs, and pass-catching RBs.

 

[mgteich]

I said a second, but a 3rd and 5th seems like a better idea.

 

[Steve102]

When people start saying they'd give up "nothing" or "zero" for a #1 WR and the cult of verticality stuff it's probably a sign that we can't have any intelligent discourse on the subject of WR acquisitions/improvement. I have not posted here long but I know during the Brady years the concept of if a WR1 was truly needed was a big sports radio talking point and it seems it's taken on sports talk radio caliber of discussion here. If anyone here ever suggests any improvement or acquisition at WR you get half the board screaming about how improving at WR is sacrilegious. I agree that fans who only box score watch and clamor for shiny new receivers can be annoying but we've really lost the plot when we act like WR1s are bad or that any marginal improvement at WR can never be a need.

As a leading basher of The Cult, I feel I can answer this. They need an elite weapon somewhere. An elite weapon forces the defenses to plan specifically on how to stop that player, and raises up the remaining skill players opportunities. The argument with the cultists is whether or not an elite TE or RB is good enough (it is). You can try to build the team like the 2001-2004 Pats, but the NFL has changed, and it's more like the 2014-2018 version, where the Pats had Gronk, and where Jules became elite in the post season. I think they need that level of skill on the offense. I don't think think you need it to be at WR1.

 

[TommyD4207]

Curious where everyone is at here.

This answer may have some nuance depending on the receiver.

The main guys I’m thinking about would be Brian Thomas, AJ Brown, DJ Moore. Maybe even DK Metcalf if you’re feeling crazy.

I think I may be willing to give up a 1 and another conditional mid round pick for BTJ. AJ, probably a 2. DJ a 2-3.

You're giving up a first round pick + another pick for a guy who had Kayshon Boutte's season last year.

 

[Zuma]

In the past 2 weeks it was either Vrabel or Wolf that said they prefer to spread the ball around. This is exactly what they did this season. A “true” WR1 is not needed.

 

[Huckleberry1]

As usual it depends upon the player, the need, and the stage of development the team is at. I would certainly give much more for Justin Jefferson or JaMarr Chase than I would for A.J. Brown.

 

[imahobgoblin]

Championship teams are built with in grown talent and not mercenary free agents unless it's just 1 resource in offense and couple more on defense.

I don't disagree with your philosophy, but are you saying the Eagles didn't trade for AJ Brown and then pair him with DeVonta Smith to put them over the top?

 

[imahobgoblin]

I said a second, but a 3rd and 5th seems like a better idea.

Yes, in 2027.