Patriots Pregame Thread Week 18: Dolphins at Patriots, 4:25 on Fox

[mgteich]

Realistically we will be 2, and Jax 3.
The question is who will the two of us play between LA and Buff.

Realistically, the chances of BUF losing to the jets is less than one is a hundred.

There are four games to getting the top 3 seeds. Ours is most likely io be the closest.
DEN-LAC
NEP-MIA
JAX-TEN
BUF-NYJ

I suppose HOU-IND is relevant, but only if JAX loses.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Realistically, the chances of BUF losing to the jets is less than one is a hundred.

There are four games to getting the top 3 seeds. Ours is most likely io be the closest.
DEN-LAC
NEP-MIA
JAX-TEN
BUF-NYJ

I suppose HOU-IND is relevant, but only if JAX loses.

Buffalo should not lose a game to the Jets.
But....they may actually prefer to play us.
I am not going to rule out the possibility of them tanking on purpose.
That said, it would take a Herculean all-time tank effort to lose to the Jets.

 

[Foxypats]

Spillane and Tonga will not play, that sucks !! Are they even going to be back for the playoffs?

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Spillane and Tonga will not play, that sucks !! Are they even going to be back for the playoffs?

Spillane practiced on a limited basis today. I read he's tracking to be back for the playoffs.
I haven't really seen anything on Tonga.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

There are four games to getting the top 3 seeds. Ours is most likely io be the closest.

No Tyreek, no Waddle, no Achane, no Waller, no Fitzpatrick, and no Tua. Hard to see how it will be close.

 

[slash83]

Spillane practiced on a limited basis today. I read he's tracking to be back for the playoffs.
I haven't really seen anything on Tonga.

Rap reported last week Tonga was 1-2 weeks max.

 

[PScottman]

Well even a Blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

This is more "if they're not perfect from jump fans dont want them".

How many NFL teams even have fullbacks? How many college teams at the level they'd be drafted these days? It's not many.

Just like every other position there's this expectation of excellence that is unachievable. Especially instantaneously. The kid wasn't even a fullback in college -- he's learning the position.

If this is a jet pilot or a surgeon -- I get it, the trainee = bad idea. But this is entertainment...professional, but still just a place where on the job training is the REALITY of the business. He can't improve where there's no padded, full speed practice anymore. He can't improve in college as a primer because the college game builds maybe 1-2 a YEAR that are professional level.

He pancaked the Jets player. Cleared him the *bleep* out. For once why don't we say "nice work kid. Whatever you did there, keep doing that because it shows you're getting better"?

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[PatsFan2]

This is more "if they're not perfect from jump fans dont want them".

How many NFL teams even have fullbacks? How many college teams at the level they'd be drafted these days? It's not many.

Just like every other position there's this expectation of excellence that is unachievable. Especially instantaneously. The kid wasn't even a fullback in college -- he's learning the position.

If this is a jet pilot or a surgeon -- I get it, the trainee = bad idea. But this is entertainment...professional, but still just a place where on the job training is the REALITY of the business. He can't improve where there's no padded, full speed practice anymore. He can't improve in college as a primer because the college game builds maybe 1-2 a YEAR that are professional level.

He pancaked the Jets player. Cleared him the *bleep* out. For once why don't we say "nice work kid. Whatever you did there, keep doing that because it shows you're getting better"?

Wait until you see Brock Lampe play next TC. Do you remember Sam Gash during the Parcells and Bledsoe years?? Lamp's Blocking is on that level.

 

[PatsFan2]

No Tyreek, no Waddle, no Achane, no Waller, no Fitzpatrick, and no Tua. Hard to see how it will be close.

No Achane??

 

[KCSVEN]

No Achane??

Shoulder injury, game time decision but listed as doubtful and did not practice all week.
He's their whole offense so if he can't go not sure how they move the ball at all

 

[PatsFan2]

Shoulder injury, game time decision but listed as doubtful and did not practice all week.
He's their whole offense so if he can't go not sure how they move the ball at all

You think Maye could lock up the MVP by halftime: Boutte will be back??

 

[Water Boy]

I'm STILL WAITING to see why Westover is on the team.
He's taking a 53, and I personally think he sux

I'm not impressed with Westover either. He's made an ok block or two, but on whole adds little value to the run game.

He squats like a duck in his 3 point stance and gets no explosion off the snap.

The best part of playing fullback is getting a running start towards the line of scrimmage and carrying that momentum into the block. The fullback should hit the hole or block point every bit as hard as a blitzing linebacker. Granted sometimes the offensive line structure breaks down, but you need to adjust quickly and with momentum.

 

[KCSVEN]

I'm not impressed with Westover either. He's made an ok block or two, but on whole adds little value to the run game.

He squats like a duck in his 3 point stance and gets no explosion off the snap.

The best part of playing fullback is getting a running start towards the line of scrimmage and carrying that momentum into the block. The fullback should hit the hole or block point every bit as hard as a blitzing linebacker. Granted sometimes the offensive line structure breaks down, but you need to adjust quickly and with momentum.

I suspect Westover is replaced by Lampe next year.

Brock Lampe has the right build, He has that bowling ball build.

 

[Water Boy]

I suspect Westover is replaced by Lampe next year.

Brock Lampe has the right build, He has that bowling ball build.

It would have been nice to see Lampe's effect on the run game this season.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

No Achane??

Listed as doubtful, did not practice Wed to Fri, and the Dolphins are tanking

 

[TinhWoodhead]

Shoulder injury, game time decision but listed as doubtful and did not practice all week.
He's their whole offense so if he can't go not sure how they move the ball at all

not suprised its the shoulder, A-Chan has been carrying team

 

[PatsFan2]

Listed as doubtful, did not practice Wed to Fri, and the Dolphins are

 

[PatsFan2]

Listed as doubtful, did not practice Wed to Fri, and the Dolphins are tanking

It's crazy how Las Vegas - Tennessee - The NY Giants and Cleveland are in the Top 5 again. Talk about trying to win Draft day. Sucks for Teams looking for a QB the class is garbage after Mendoza.

 

[PScottman]

Wait until you see Brock Lampe play next TC. Do you remember Sam Gash during the Parcells and Bledsoe years?? Lamp's Blocking is on that level.

But why tear Westover down? Injuries are another reality.

Cool, Lampe might be better (he won't be an all pro either BTW) but he's hurt.