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Stafford also won't his division! The last QB to not win his division and win MVP I believe was Peyton in 2008. I personally don't care for the regular season MVP because I think the award is cursed. I know Mahomes broke it a couple years ago
 
He certainly is,
Being down 21 LA is going to have to throw the ball on almost every play.
So Stafford will either put up huge numbers, or continue to turn the ball over.
Also, I called that people would figure out the Rams 3-TE set. I did not think it would be the Falcons that did it, but here we are.
 
In the ultimate team sport, I don't understand why this seems so important to people. The stadium "MVP" chanting is silly, IMO. If Maye gets it, fine. If he doesn't, probably better for all concerned.
Just adds an extra layer to root for and enjoy.

No big deal if he doesn't get it but still nice to witness the run for it.
 
Stafford was the clear MVP favorite going into this week. Maye gained grown in his game and Stafford is losing it in this one. One week does not an MVP make for good or bad. But as of right now... it looks dead even to me. Stafford's claim to MVP was his low In total INT and high TD/Int ratio. He has nuked both those totals today a bit. And if he loses this game it will be even worse. The Rams going 11-5 to the Pats 13-3 to this point will not look nearly as good/close.
 
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Fair, The biggest reason that I would lean Johnson is because imo the Bears were even a bigger dumpster fire and he is a 1st time head coach.

Fair as well. The Patriots are a more complete team overall, IMO. Johnson is an offensive specialist as advertised and the Bears defense often has been horrid. It will be interesting to see how the voting parses out.
 
McVey would trade Stafford and Nacua straight up for Maye right now.
Vrabel would just laugh
 
I don’t think Lawrence has the numbers that Maye and Stafford have but he’s not far off from this conversation either
 
Rams missing OLinemen and Stafford is struggling.

Pats missing OLinemen and Maye is still dealing.

The choice is clear.
People have talked up the weapon difference but not nearly enough the OL difference. Stafford has been behind a top 5 OL all year... and it wasn't cause he was getting the ball out super fast... he wasn't slow getting it out, but he hasn't had to buy time as his first option has been open so much and when he needs to hold the ball he hasn't needed to move as much in the pocket to make it happen.
 
I don't about regular season individual awards, never have.
I can see why players and teammates would tho, ultimately if your guy wins MVP that says a lot about the TEAM.
MVP is up for grabs, but agree Stafford is the fav.
I don't see how Ben Johnson is more deserving than Vrabs.
From 4 wins to best record in the NFL, with less of a roster than Chi.
I feel like everyone knew Vrabel was a good coach, but Ben Johnson was an unknown. Honestly there is a good argument for both and Cohen in Jacksonville could also be argued.
 
Fair, The biggest reason that I would lean Johnson is because imo the Bears were even a bigger dumpster fire and he is a 1st time head coach.
Chi was a bigger dumpster fire than us last year?
Did you watch any of Mayo's pressers?
We were flying in a plane with no Pilot!
 
Why would it be better for him not to receive recognition?

I'm sure it would be well received. Just a personal opinion re. one guy being singled out when his success depends on so many others stepping up.
 


Just checked after staffords second pick. Maye back in the lead in odds
Classic over reaction to instant fan reaction. But right now this very second... Assume the Rams do lose this game.... I think Maye has a super slight edge. Stafford will probably end on 42-44 TDs on the year total. That will be a strong case, though i have always said TDs alone are overrated as a stat. But people put too much stock in who actually punches the ball in sometimes as opposed to the offense as a whole.
 
Classic over reaction to instant fan reaction. But right now this very second... Assume the Rams do lose this game.... I think Maye has a super slight edge. Stafford will probably end on 42-44 TDs on the year total. That will be a strong case, though i have always said TDs alone are overrated as a stat. But people put too much stock in who actually punches the ball in sometimes as opposed to the offense as a whole.

No doubt if stafford drops to 11-5 that will hurt his chances.
 
Stafford could play next week and Maye sit. Thus, you would have Stafford pumping up stats and the last thing voters remember.
 
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