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[Real fan 02]

Personally I believe if the bills see Denver in the postseason Denver will get them.. Allen is phenomenal but teams like Denver and Houston have the horses to contain an offense like Buffalo..

@PatsFan2

To TommyD4207 point the roster we ha e isn't a finished product.. so i have to keep that in mind.. but once we get another offseason I can almost guarantee you Vrabel is going hard on beefing up the pass rush..

It has to happen..

 

[PatsFan2]

@PatsFan2

To TommyD4207 point the roster we ha e isn't a finished product.. so i have to keep that in mind.. but once we get another offseason I can almost guarantee you Vrabel is going hard on beefing up the pass rush..

It has to happen..

Our First Two Selections is going to the Defense: players who can consistently get to the QB.

 

[TomPatriot]

@PatsFan2

To TommyD4207 point the roster we ha e isn't a finished product.. so i have to keep that in mind.. but once we get another offseason I can almost guarantee you Vrabel is going hard on beefing up the pass rush..

It has to happen..

Both the offensive and defensive lines need work. The OL isn’t good enough if you want to play physical football and it is a principal reason why they have trouble scoring in the red zone.

And there’s no question that depth needs to be (and will be) addressed.

 

[Real fan 02]

Our First Two Selections is going to the Defense: players who can consistently get to the QB.

Absolutely we need to find some demon pass rushers.. we also are going to need to find a replacement for Barmore..

 

[Huckleberry1]

You know me and that position and we actually Drafted him so there's that. Also Tommy you had me sold that we were going kick Buffalo's @ss with Benford out What happend??

Seriously? With your track record you want to give him **** about 1 game? You have been wrong about literally everything for years.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Absolutely we need to find some demon pass rushers.. we also are going to need to find a replacement for Barmore..

Why do they need to replace Barmore?

 

[Real fan 02]

Both the offensive and defensive lines need work. The OL isn’t good enough if you want to play physical football and it is a principal reason why they have trouble scoring in the red zone.

And there’s no question that depth needs to be (and will be) addressed.

Absolutely tom.. it's still very impressive that Vrabel was able to add some to the roster on defense and still have the offense and defense top 10 in the NFL that speaks to his coaching prowess..

My prediction:

Landry retires
Chaisson re-signed
Tonga re-signed
Barmore re-structuring or traded
Diggs remains
Henry extended
Wilson moves to C
LG, RG drafted
Drafting premium Pass rushers in rounds 1&2 and wherever you can find them in the draft...
Vrabel will also add at WR by trade

My prediction...

 

[Real fan 02]

Why do they need to replace Barmore?

As @TheRainMaker perfectly stated.. Barmore is making top $$ at his position he's not affecting the QB and can't even shed 1-1 blocks.. he's getting pushed back in the running game.. not what you're looking for in you highly paid Defensive lineman.. he's actually hurting the defense rather than helping it..

 

[Real fan 02]

Why do they need to replace Barmore?

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/72660/naquan-jones

Here's the replacement...

 

[PatsFan2]

Seriously? With your track record you want to give him **** about 1 game? You have been wrong about literally everything for years.

Really??

 

[Huckleberry1]

I think this game could get ugly for the Pats. Who's gonna stop Henry from running wild? Which of our LBs is capable of spying Jackson? The brutal collapse at home vs BUF will have some lasting impact (even though the Bills' comeback was heavily aided by the refs). Pats will get right vs the Jets/Phins going into the playoffs, but I would not be surprised by a double digit defeat in Baltimore this coming weekend.

This from the guy who thought their offseason sucked, and that they were going to suck this season. The one thing we know for certain is that you don't know what the **** you are talking about, just like all the others on Captain Quitter's team of losers who give up on them the first time they don't make a first time. I hope you have a miserable time watching the playoffs, I know how much their success bothers you.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Really??

Yes really.

 

[Huckleberry1]

As @TheRainMaker perfectly stated.. Barmore is making top $$ at his position he's not affecting the QB and can't even shed 1-1 blocks.. he's getting pushed back in the running game.. not what you're looking for in you highly paid Defensive lineman.. he's actually hurting the defense rather than helping it..

And he's wrong, Barmore is in the top 10 at quarterback pressures, and he's a really good defensive tackle.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Lol if we’re not able to hold teams to 3 or 0 in the RZ, then we simply cannot let them enter the RZ..However, that’s much easier said than done.

They were actually leading the league in holding teams out of the red zone going into that game, and were top 10 in points allowed. The truth is that they have improved dramatically in all areas 3 areas if the game, but have struggled in the red zone in both sides of the ball.

 

[denverpatsfan]

Personally I believe if the bills see Denver in the postseason Denver will get them.. Allen is phenomenal but teams like Denver and Houston have the horses to contain an offense like Buffalo..

Bills got no shot here in Denver.
Houston could win an ugly game here gor sure.
It's Nix and Peyton's conference to lose now.
Eagles-Donks
Book it and God save us

 

[Thelonious]

I guess it depends largely on where Lamar is in his meandering physical health. As the injuries pile up, which they inevitably do in "athletic quarterbacks," the question always is, "Will this player develop the skills necessary to succeed when the day comes he can no longer rely on declining athleticism as the battering and injuries pile up. It seems to me Lamar has the physical skills, the arm, to succeed as a more conventional QB, but I very much question whether he has the cognitive reach, the temperament, the character, perhaps, to make the transition. He has improved of late in his play, but no one will claim that he is a paragon of consistency.

This is a very interesting game, but then we are all familiar with the adage that living in interesting times rarely makes for a carefree, happy life. I suspect this will be a very difficult game, and if I had a coin handy, I'd flip it.

 

[Triumph]

Bills got no shot here in Denver.
Houston could win an ugly game here gor sure.
It's Nix and Peyton's conference to lose now.
Eagles-Donks
Book it and God save us

I believe Rams vs Broncos.

 

[ScottishPatriots]

The Giants had a 20+ point lead in Denver, the Raiders had them down to the wire.

I would prefer to play the Bills at home than go to Denver but everyone has a shot in Denver, they play consistently play tight games that go deep in the 4th quarter which means the bounce of a ball can decide any of them, right now they're winning all of them but like you seen with the Chiefs last year doing it and this year it flipped on them fast.

The best realistic scenario now for the Pats chances is it ending

1. Broncos
2. Patriots
3. Jaguars
4. Steelers
5. Bills
6. Texans
7. Chargers

Pats def Chargers
Bills def Steelers
Jags def Texans

Jags at Pats
Bills at Broncos

And a Bills rematch at home in AFCCG

 

[Betterthanmost]

I am just looking for a game where the Patriots will play to their full potential. There were too many tricks and out of structure plays in the Bills game earlier on that surprised me. Wondering what that was all about.

 

[Real fan 02]

Bills got no shot here in Denver.
Houston could win an ugly game here gor sure.
It's Nix and Peyton's conference to lose now.
Eagles-Donks
Book it and God save us

I admire your confidence.. as you should be.. top 5 Defense and the best record in the NFL... my prediction is Josh Allen has to come to Denver and you guys will get some revenge..

Then again part of me wants another shot at him In Foxboro round 3... AFCCG