NFL GAME DAY DISCUSSION Week 12 Other Games: Ω Edition - MNF - Panthers @ 49ers

[Real fan 02]

Mahomes looks pretty broken to me. Check out his numbers from the last couple of games.

Don't see 3 AFCW teams making the big dance this year...

 

[Pape]

You will be.

nah... more like

 

[Pape]

RT is definitely a need however we are marvels better than last season with the the likes of Demontrey Jacobs.. I'm leaning towards edge though Pape.. the edge pressure is the only thing realistically holding our defense back in pressure rate..

there is no however.

The Line protects the Franchise.

I know we need an edge rusher... maybe the decision comes down to BPA this year?

its highly doubtful that Rueben Bains Jr drops to 32... and chances are you are going to get a better RT at that spot than an Edge rusher...

Maybe we trade up to the middle of the draft, then i'd think about it...

 

[yukon cornelius]

Mahomes looks pretty broken to me. Check out his numbers from the last couple of games.

i get it........i just don't trust that the trend can't be broken, either

 

[Hammer of Thor]

nah... more like

I figured it would be more like

 

[Real fan 02]

there is no however.

The Line protects the Franchise.

I know we need an edge rusher... maybe the decision comes down to BPA this year?

its highly doubtful that Rueben Bains Jr drops to 32... and chances are you are going to get a better RT at that spot than an Edge rusher...

Maybe we trade up to the middle of the draft, then i'd think about it...

Agreed. The OL is important. Agreed this as as well on bains or maybe pursuing a guy in FA? Maybe I just got so enamored with watching Texans pass rush..

 

[Pape]

Agreed. The OL is important. Agreed this as as well on bains or maybe pursuing a guy in FA? Maybe I just got so enamored with watching Texans pass rush..

gotta see how free agency shakes out i suppose

 

[TommyD4207]

there is no however.

The Line protects the Franchise.

I know we need an edge rusher... maybe the decision comes down to BPA this year?

its highly doubtful that Rueben Bains Jr drops to 32... and chances are you are going to get a better RT at that spot than an Edge rusher...

Maybe we trade up to the middle of the draft, then i'd think about it...

Bain could go top 10, possibly top 5, depending on his combine and pro day stuff.

 

[JoeSixPat]

there is no however.

The Line protects the Franchise.

I know we need an edge rusher... maybe the decision comes down to BPA this year?

its highly doubtful that Rueben Bains Jr drops to 32... and chances are you are going to get a better RT at that spot than an Edge rusher...

Maybe we trade up to the middle of the draft, then i'd think about it...

Agreed - there's much better value for RT at 32 than there is for Edge.

Not that there aren't defensive finds to be made after Rd 1 but RT is the value pick there. I'd expect them to use later picks for OL depth too.

 

[mike_usagisan]

I think they might go a coverage LB over RT in the first and hope Moses and Bryant can hold down the RT spot for one more year.

 

[PatsFan2]

I think they might go a coverage LB over RT in the first and hope Moses and Bryant can hold down the RT spot for one more year.

They might have a Future RT in Marcus Bryant. But I would still draft another one just in case.

 

[mike_usagisan]

They might have a Future RT in Marcus Bryant. But I would still draft another one just in case.

I would, too, but they might have bigger holes to deal with first. There's a reason our defense isn't great at covering TEs and running back receivers.

 

[Real fan 02]

gotta see how free agency shakes out i suppose

I'd have to imagine it won't come down to trying to woo a once great WR who got caught up in gambling and who's GF doesn't like the weather...

 

[Real fan 02]

They might have a Future RT in Marcus Bryant. But I would still draft another one just in case.

Bryant is being developed by coach Marrone to be the future at RT.. of course moses is a stop gap..but i will be remissed not to mention it was 32nd ranked last season..

 

[Real fan 02]

No more room for error from this. Bills were never a threat to take first seed away from us.

Keep your eyes on the prize. Winning division is just a stepping stone. Taking one step does not increase tolerance for error.

Meh.. the bills started out hot...wouldn't have said never.. earlier in the season.. but to your point eyes on the prize is what's most important.

 

[n1997y]

I remember my uncle cursing out Mauch through the end of that season. I just feel it was a lot of bad luck his pitching failed and they didn't have enough big guns to overcome that. Yes Richie Allen and Johnny Callison were a great 3 - 4 combo, but the rest of the lineup left something to be desired.

I can't remeber what year it was it might have been this one my uncle took me to a Phillies game and Bunning pitched a perfect game being young at the time I was so bored. I kept wondering when someone would hit the ball and score so we could go home. One of the things that came out of that game was I ate so many hot dogs and fries that when we got home that night and went to bed, I woke up late and threw up all over my cousin's Negamco Baseball game.

He was ready to hang me the next day. Oh the good times.

Where you grew up is that near Cape May we went down there a lot as well just wondering if that cement Liberty Boat is still off shore there or has it finally worn away.

Lol. My grandfather had pitched for Boston in the major leagues before WW1 but lost his fastball in the trenches so worked in DuPont’s Deepwater plant the rest of his working life. He was retired by then and listened to every Phillies game on one of the very first transistor radios. He second guessed every managerial move Mauch made, so by ‘64 I was used to hearing Mauch cursed. Truly good times.

We were inland, over closer to the bay. Middle of lots of farms. Mostly went down to OC, that was where locals and folks from Philly went. AC and north was New Yorkers. Wildwood and Stone Harbor mostly locals or Canadians. Cape May was pretty much forgotten until they opened the ferry to Delaware. Last time I was down there I think there was still some of that cement hull still there, but it’s been awhile. I need to get back up to see how it’s changed. I’ve flown over my old hometown a few times. Looks the same from 3500’ but I’m sure it’s changed a lot.

 

[sturmrider]

Lol. My grandfather had pitched for Boston in the major leagues before WW1 but lost his fastball in the trenches so worked in DuPont’s Deepwater plant the rest of his working life. He was retired by then and listened to every Phillies game on one of the very first transistor radios. He second guessed every managerial move Mauch made, so by ‘64 I was used to hearing Mauch cursed. Truly good times.

We were inland, over closer to the bay. Middle of lots of farms. Mostly went down to OC, that was where locals and folks from Philly went. AC and north was New Yorkers. Wildwood and Stone Harbor mostly locals or Canadians. Cape May was pretty much forgotten until they opened the ferry to Delaware. Last time I was down there I think there was still some of that cement hull still there, but it’s been awhile. I need to get back up to see how it’s changed. I’ve flown over my old hometown a few times. Looks the same from 3500’ but I’m sure it’s changed a lot.

I am sure your hometown changed, Chester is so different now. They say you can never go back and they are right everything changes. My uncle had a cabin at Wildwood, but we also went down to Atlantic City and obviously Cape May. I wish you luck on your journey back. Take care and it was fun reminiscing.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving next week.

 

[The Gr8est]

McDermott had nothing to play for and we'd all want BB to pull players as he's done in the past when the Pats were looking towards the playoffs. The person you should be really mad at is Mayo for not countering what McDermott was doing. The Pats were playing way too aggressive on defense blitzing and allowing Milton to run around, throwing bombs and playing hero ball on offense. If I were one of the Kraft's, I would've told Mayo to cut that **** out after halftime. Or better yet, I would've humiliated him and fired him at halftime because I'm pretty sure Mayo was already told this was his last game anyways. Mayo knew very well what was on the line.

It worked out in the end because having Hunter and Carter also available with the #1 pick could've made Vrabel fall into the trap second guessing himself. Those guys off the board made picking Campbell very easy.

I think it wouldn’t be easy to make a case that the players drafted ahead of Campbell are better players, regardless of position.

Would you trade Campbell for Ward, Hunter, or Carter if you had an equal need for players at those positions?

I wouldn’t.

The Pats just lost out on draft capital from trading down.

 

[The Gr8est]

I’m afraid of the league’s/refs’ favoritism towards Mahomes.

Agreed, but the Pats may soon be beneficiaries of a bit of special treatment themselves.

We all know the bias the league had for the dynasty Pats, to where they manufactured offenses and imposed draconian punishments, but Maye is going to be a big star, and I expect they will come down in the future on some of the cheap shots or head shots, as they have done with Mahomes, because he will be too valuable an asset for the league to lose.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Agreed, but the Pats may soon be beneficiaries of a bit of special treatment themselves.

We all know the bias the league had for the dynasty Pats, to where they manufactured offenses and imposed draconian punishments, but Maye is going to be a big star, and I expect they will come down in the future on some of the cheap shots or head shots, as they have done with Mahomes, because he will be too valuable an asset for the league to lose.

I hope that being a QB gets him that, because they all but declared open season on GRONK instead.