Are we currently the best team in the NFL?

[Ring 6]

They only have 6 wins because of schedule. They only have two losses. Beating the Chiefs, Bucaneers, and Rams is nothing to sneeze at. If they beat Green Bay tomorrow, it's almost impossible right now to say they aren't on paper the best team based on results even with the early bye.

I would throw the Rams and Seattle in that discussion. Right now Colts are the first seed in the AFC and Taylor is the best running back in the NFL. That's going to be a tough out for anyone

6 wins isn’t 8 wins. 2 losses in 8 games isn’t 2 losses in 10 games

“If” wasn’t part of the exercise.

I don’t think tie breaker rules is how I would choose decide which team has played better.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Spoken like an over confident fan

The cracks have been showing for years, but people continue to sleep on them. Their defense wasn't very good despite fans pointing to their "ranking". Offense didn't have a running game and Diggs was the only guy that threatened teams. Allen has been carrying them since 2020, but their lack of talent gets exposed come playoff time. Allen can't do everything. Managment missed their window.

The tide is turning back to NE.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

The cracks have been showing for years, but people continue to sleep on them. Their defense wasn't very good despite fans pointing to their "ranking". Offense didn't have a running game and Diggs was the only guy that threatened teams. Allen has been carrying them since 2020, but their lack of talent gets exposed come playoff time. Allen can't do everything.

The tide is turning back to NE.

I was actually talking about KC

 

[TheRainMaker]

I was actually talking about KC

Yeah that's a different story. I still dread the Chiefs. Mahomes will always be a pain in the ass.

 

[Vindicate]

Broncos defense is most suited to stop us, however their offense is very mid and not scary at all. Would be a nailbiter. If Williams keeps it up, I'd love our chances. We really have too many receiving options to account for. Running options are versatile as well. The game would come down to how our OL would hold against their DL, and they'd have to win that battle pretty hard to overcome their slow offense.

Colts are weaker in pass defense, hence their pickup of Sauce. Our run defense is still chugging along. I think we're equipped to limit Taylor and frustrate Jones as they rely on the pass more.

Seahawks have a sneaky good team rn?

Chiefs and Bills are what they are. But what they are not is unbeatable.

Patriots match up against the good teams pretty well!

 

[signbabybrady]

Are we seriously having this convo with the statistically easiest schedule in NFL history? The Rams, for one, would eat us alive. We're closing on it, but not quite there. We do have THE GUY though and excellent coaching finally. That's for damn sure.

Chiefs are 5-4. Bills have only beat one team over .500, the Chiefs last week. Meanwhile despite our "easy schedule" we're 3-1 vs teams over .500.

 

[raduray]

Based upon actual football played on the football field, not subjective “we need this” or “we are rebuilding” qualifiers, are we the best team in the NFL right now?
If not who is, and how compelling is the argument?

The fact that this is even a conversation is way beyond my expectations at the start of the season. I'll just let the record at the end of the season speak for itself.

 

[scott99]

Im not gonna say they are the best, until I see them get to the playoffs, and then we’ll talk.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Chiefs are 5-4. Bills have only beat one team over .500, the Chiefs last week. Meanwhile despite our "easy schedule" we're 3-1 vs teams over .500.

That stat is dynamic and has changed.
The three teams from that stat were Buff, TB and Car.
Carolina is no longer over 0.500, and they were under 0.500 when we played them.
Can be a little misleading, we've beaten two teams over 0.500 at the time we played them.

 

[Joey007]

Feel wrong saying we are for sure.

But we definitely can now enter the discourse of teams.

 

[ScottishPatriots]

The most complete teams are in the NFC the better QBs are in the AFC.

Detroit, Philly, and Seattle are great along both lines but can you trust Goff or Darnold?

I think the Rams are the best team currently just, they have the QB you can trust the most on the near complete team, Pats are right up there with anyone in the AFC.

 

[BTTA]

Uh-oh. That's not going to play well on Sports Radio, Bedard.

That's part of his calculation. He's as oriented to creating drama as the radio boys are. He makes a reasonable living just off of those appearances.

 

[Joey007]

Sorry if kc makes the playoffs they have the pedigree

Difference between best team in the league right now, and come playoff time.

I think it’s fair to not have the Chiefs there right now. We know that can change in a couple months.

 

[Guts]

KC is 5-4. They are not close to in the argument.

Philly is in the discussion, but we have player better.

KC is going back to the superbowl Bookmark this post

 

[Guts]

I feel like you and so many others are so hung up on past performance, that seeing how things are in the present is difficult.

To my eyes, both Mahomes and Allen's best days are behind them. Not every QB plays to 40. Mahomes straight up lost them the Bills game a week ago, he was terrible.

He always loses to the Billdos regular season.

 

[JoeyCee]

Based upon actual football played on the football field, not subjective “we need this” or “we are rebuilding” qualifiers, are we the best team in the NFL right now?
If not who is, and how compelling is the argument?

Rams look very good

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Based on the way the question was asked, we might very well be. Huge testament to the players they added how they’re coaching them and how they’re playing. At this point playoffs are a virtual lock though so it’s more pertinent to me to talk about how I project them there and that’s a different question.

I’d take PHI, KC, LAR, DET over us in a playoff game when you consider the rosters and experience and I’m on the fence about GB, BUF, SEA, DEN, TB - toss up for any of those games. I’m really not a believer in IND so I’d take us over them in a game.

I’m not really liking what I’m seeing from Maye lately in the context of our chances this year. You see this a lot with young QBs where they make the great plays but it comes with the losing plays. And it’s ok, it’s not some indictment that he’s not going to be an elite QB some day or even that he isn’t already. But when he takes sacks instead of throwing it away, that kills drives. He’s getting kinda ballsy with the windows he tries to throw it to and it’s led to bad picks. Some situations are “gotta have it” but very few plays are actually do or die to where you can’t just move onto the next play if your QB misses a great play. Overly negative plays at the QB spot are things you oftentimes can’t recover from because you don’t get the ball back for the next play after a turnover or if a sack totally dooms a drive that’s sort of a turnover in a way. It’s a normal thing - very few QBs are ready to be the focal point of a contending team so early in their career.

Basically the last two games Maye is looking like a more normal career arc. Crazy talented, makes crazy good plays, but still needs to smooth some things out to make sure he’s playing WINNING football. It’s looking like his leap or skipping all those steps all the way right to elite, MVP type of QB might have been pronounced a bit too soon. If he can’t get back on track to that, I don’t view us in that top, top class because I don’t think the rest of our roster is strong enough for that without elite, winning QB play with all the rough edges smoothed out like Maye had been doing.

 

[Lambeau12]

KC is going back to the superbowl Bookmark this post

I hope not!

 

[imahobgoblin]

I might get blasted for this but you also can’t ever count out KC. It’s the Mahomes affect. They aren’t better than us currently but they can knock off anyone in the playoffs at any given time or it feels that way with them

You are not allowed to to disagree with NEM, I mean Andy. This is his thread and in order for you to comment on it, you must call him God, believe only what he says, and never disagree. That is in the forum rules he wrote. According to him, he actually owns the forum and lets Ian run it for him. So kiss his feet or don't post on his thread.

 

[Guts]

I hope not!

Me neither
But literally the only team I can see beating them in the playoffs is us and thsts because we are unknown and how we would play etc..
Billdos/Ratbirds etc theyre all frauds