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Patriots Pregame Thread Week 8: Browns @ Pats

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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I think the lack of man coverage is due to (1) Gonzo's hammy not being 100% and (2) the deficiencies at S. I hope we will get to see more of it.
That's probably very accurate.. I have to continue to remind myself how long gonzo was out with that hammy.. a gonzo at 80% is still better than most QB at thier best. The safety play Opposite Woodson definitely is a concern. Watching Kurh in an interview recently seems as if they may be leaning more to playing more man.
 
A minuteman -- in a RED coat. WTF is wrong with you? Cleveland will be wearing white jerseys, bulldog is not their mascot.

what the **** is this??
 
I wouldn't say a lack of man because they play it fairly often as far as percentages go probably a 30-70 split. It tends to be easier to disguise looks in zone coverages.
Coach Hamilton said in the coaching interview yesterday that depending on the QB they face essentially determines if they will play man or zone.
 
Maybe but even bad teams have good games. We had 4 of them last year. Sometimes teams get outplayed it happens. We are not that good yet that we can count out any opponent . We are still young teams and we have young players at key positions that can still be inconsistent.
That's what I mean about beating ourselves.
 
what the **** is this??

Brownie goes back to the Browns inception. He's the Browns official mascot and makes a helluva lot more sense than a Minuteman wearing a friggin' redcoat which is just ****ing blasphemous
 
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Brownie goes back to the browns inception. He's the Browns official mascot and makes a helluva lot more sense than a Minuteman wearing a friggin' redcoat

Yeah, there's way too much bad AI "art" shared on this board. I got a little nauseated by one in the Jets Suck thread where each person seemed to have about 2.71 arms.
 
Wednesday, October 22, 2025

NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS​

DID NOT PARTICIPATE
LB Elijah Ponder, Knee
S Craig Woodson, Ankle
LIMITED PARTICIPATION
LB Harold Landry III, Ankle
DT Christian Barmore, Not Injury Related / Other
WR Stefon Diggs, Chest
OT Morgan Moses, Not Injury Related / Other
DT Khyiris Tonga, Knee
FULL PARTICIPATION
CB Christian Gonzalez, Hamstring
S Jaylinn Hawkins, Hamstring
CB Charles Woods, Knee


Also, Jerry Jeudy didn’t participate for Cleveland with a knee injury.
If juedy is out.. and we let this QB minus juedy march down and score on us opening drive then this defense isn't what we thought they would be..
 
If juedy is out.. and we let this QB minus juedy march down and score on us opening drive then this defense isn't what we thought they would be..
Looks like he’ll be playing—

CLEVELAND BROWNS​

OUT
No Players Listed.
DOUBTFUL
No Players Listed.
QUESTIONABLE
DT Adin Huntington, Concussion (LP)
TE David Njoku, Knee (LP)

NO GAME STATUS GIVEN: G Joel Bitonio - Not Injury Related / Rest (FP), CB Tyson Campbell - Quad (FP), DT Maliek Collins - Not Injury Related / Rest (FP), T Jack Conklin - Not Injury Related / Rest (FP), S Grant Delpit - Toe (FP), DT Mason Graham - Knee (FP), DT Mike Hall Jr. - Knee (FP), DT Shelby Harris - Knee (FP), CB Denzel Ward - Hip (FP), S Rayshawn Jenkins - Wrist / Back (LP), WR Jerry Jeudy - Knee (LP), C Ethan Pocic - Illness (FP), TE Blake Whiteheart - Shoulder (FP)

 
3 TDs vs Miami
4.8 YAC vs Minnesota
3.9 YAC vs Detroit
5.2 YAC vs Green Bay
6.1 YAC vs Baltimore

Miami- 2 of the TDs were from inside the 5 yard line on drives started on Miami's side of the field. 1 of those drives they started at the Miami 2.
Minnesota- was his lone 100 yard game
Detroit- 81 yards on 21 carries isn't running wild
Baltimore- 10 carries 61 yards. 3 carries for 45 yards in the 4th quarter garbage time down 3+ scores, first 3 quarters- 7 carries, 16 yards, 2.2 ypc

I'm not saying he's **** or anything or that he won't have a good game, i'm just saying he hasn't really been "running wild", someone like Rico Dowdle those 2 weeks was someone running wild.
 
Browns D played the Packers tough. That Packers offense is FULL of impact play makers. This will be a challenging game. Even at home. Pats need to put up 17 to win IMO
 
Looks like he’ll be playing—

CLEVELAND BROWNS​

OUT
No Players Listed.
DOUBTFUL
No Players Listed.
QUESTIONABLE
DT Adin Huntington, Concussion (LP)
TE David Njoku, Knee (LP)

NO GAME STATUS GIVEN: G Joel Bitonio - Not Injury Related / Rest (FP), CB Tyson Campbell - Quad (FP), DT Maliek Collins - Not Injury Related / Rest (FP), T Jack Conklin - Not Injury Related / Rest (FP), S Grant Delpit - Toe (FP), DT Mason Graham - Knee (FP), DT Mike Hall Jr. - Knee (FP), DT Shelby Harris - Knee (FP), CB Denzel Ward - Hip (FP), S Rayshawn Jenkins - Wrist / Back (LP), WR Jerry Jeudy - Knee (LP), C Ethan Pocic - Illness (FP), TE Blake Whiteheart - Shoulder (FP)

Well.. let's see if they allow a opening drive TD. Need to see them set the tone at home and give the home crowd something to cheer for..
 
If Dugger is asked to cover...
I think you could man up Dugger on Jerry Jeudy in this one and it wouldn't matter.
Gabriel is clueless and has no arm.
 
Browns D played the Packers tough. That Packers offense is FULL of impact play makers. This will be a challenging game. Even at home. Pats need to put up 17 to win IMO
I'm expecting the offense to have it's struggles against an aggressive front.. however no matter what the Browns do.. there is just no answer for a mobile QB who's accurate downfield..
 
I think you could man up Dugger on Jerry Jeudy in this one and it wouldn't matter.
Gabriel is clueless and has no arm.
Hope you're right Tommy.. the D needs to stop allowing suspect offenses that have no business moving the ball on us to get in rhythm and confidence.. Vrabel said today he wants to affect the QB more.. lock up the WRs and heat on the QB...
 
Hope you're right Tommy.. the D needs to stop allowing suspect offenses that have no business moving the ball on us to get in rhythm and confidence.. Vrabel said today he wants to affect the QB more.. lock up the WRs and heat on the QB...
Go watch some DIllon Gabriel tape from this year. He makes Cam Ward look like Dan Marino.
 
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