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The Bill megathread (HC at UNC, girlfriend, etc.)

So much of this is a big nothing burger, a washed coach with a massive ego can't accept when it's over and has a girlfriend too young for him and it's a bit creepy.

Talk of destroying legacies ect, destroying your legacy is Russell Wilsoning yourself from the HOF, Bill is still going to the HOF and still going to be one of the greats because everything is subjective it always comes down to wins, losses and championships and yeah he had Brady but Walsh had Montana and Reid had Mahomes ect, once we're past the moment it'll just be a cliff note of his career like it it'll be remember how sad and weird that got at the end.

The Brady vs Belichick argument was always a dumb one anyway, no coach can ever be more important than a top 5 QB.

Bills biggest problem is he is an A-hole who treats people like dirt so everyone is itching and reveling in burying him and the fact he still can't humble himself in his worst moments with the Patriots and self reflect on his flaws and love of his buddies being on his staff in key roles.

My biggest surprise is why anyone thought this wouldn't be a disaster, washed Bill and his band of cronies going down to historically bad football program UNC with no knowledge of college football.
 
My biggest surprise is why anyone thought this wouldn't be a disaster, washed Bill and his band of cronies going down to historically bad football program UNC with no knowledge of college football.

Mike Lombardi didn't...

 
Bill literally said "It's clear I'm not welcome there around their facility. And so they're not welcome at ours. Pretty simple"

Vrabel made it clear that's not true and said Babybill is always welcome there. Bill's a liar.
 
Ok, everybody here hates BB now. Got it.
 
Ok, everybody here hates BB now. Got it.

Bill and his cult are responsible for the way he's viewed here now. The vast majority were rooting for him to succeed, considered him to be the GOAT, and weren't talking about him at all. Then came the excuse mill known as the cult of Bill, and Belichick's bizarre behavior and outright lies. In this forum it was Belichick's Cult that led to people calling them out on his post Brady record and his performance at UNC. Had people like signbabybill not engaged in hundred of pages of ******** and outright lies then it never would have gotten the notice it now has, or taken up so much bandwidth. I literally said to signbabybill that Belichick was the GOAT, and he responded by telling ne that if I didn't agree with everything he said about Belichick then I was a hater, and he was dead serious. He belongs in a mental institution.
 
Ted Johnson has the biggest anti-BB hard-on of all.

Yeah, because he’s been right about literally almost everything regarding Bill for years. So much of the stuff he’s said about his time on the Patriots years that was always dismissed as sour grapes or a vendetta or whatever have really proven themselves to be accurate. To top it off, yeah he has a personal beef with how Belichick treated him when he started piling up the concussions that would ruin the next decade of his life.
 
Ok, everybody here hates BB now. Got it.
Nah it's mostly linda1 and friends dancing on BB's grave, while ganging up on signbabybunny.

The rest of us don't want to partake on the dancing but also won't waste time defending the increasingly indefensible.
 
Bill and his cult are responsible for the way he's viewed here now. The vast majority were rooting for him to succeed, considered him to be the GOAT, and weren't talking about him at all. Then came the excuse mill known as the cult of Bill, and Belichick's bizarre behavior and outright lies. In this forum it was Belichick's Cult that led to people calling them out on his post Brady record and his performance at UNC. Had people like signbabybill not engaged in hundred of pages of ******** and outright lies then it never would have gotten the notice it now has, or taken up so much bandwidth. I literally said to signbabybill that Belichick was the GOAT, and he responded by telling ne that if I didn't agree with everything he said about Belichick then I was a hater, and he was dead serious. He belongs in a mental institution.
You can't roll it back there's page after page of you hating him. It's my fault though lol.
 
Complete insanity. I'd be amazed if UNC keeps this charade going for much longer. And if the parents are involved, heads are gonna roll.

And it's surprising cause a lot of this is not the Bill I know. Or maybe it's coming from Lombardi who talks like he's accomplished but actually hasn't accomplished a thing anywhere he's been in the sport.

So how has the six-time Super Bowl champion coach, who many consider the greatest of all time, fallen so far from grace? WRAL has spoken to parents of UNC players, members of the staff, the athletic department and the UNC Board of Trustees. Multiple sources with knowledge of the inner workings of Belichick's program say the results on the field are a product of a divided locker room, a disorganized coaching staff and a failure to communicate.
"It's an unstructured mess," a source with first-hand knowledge of the program told WRAL. "There's no culture, no organization. It's a complete disaster."

The transfer portal opened Dec. 9, 2024. Together, Belichick and Lombardi would bring in 70 new players between the portal and their high school signing class. According to sources, it was there that a divide organically formed between the Mack Brown-recruited players and the transfers.

"It started with recruits coming in acting entitled to certain things," a source said. "It was about them individually, not the team. It was about me and what I was going to do."


It's common in college football for players who transfer to get paid more than players who stay, but according to multiple sources, Belichick and his staff haven't done enough to unite the players. There are multiple examples of preferential treatment for transfers that have added to the discord in the team.

According to several sources, some Belichick-recruited transfers have preferential parking for themselves and their parents, as well as more tickets for games. Khmori House and Thaddeus Dixon played for Belichick's son, Steve Belichick, at the University of Washington. Their names come up repeatedly when talking to sources about preferential treatment. Dixon's family has field access on game days, something that no other family is believed to have.

According to sources, there's a board in the UNC football facility that lists people who have missed workouts and class. Some Belichick-recruited players repeatedly show up on the list but have not had their playing time affected.

ccording to sources, the players who chose to stay at UNC after Mack Brown's firing didn't meet Belichick for weeks after he was hired. Parents were told not to approach Belichick. They didn't meet Belichick and his staff until the "Practice like a Pro" spring game.

"There's been no communication with coaches and parents, period," a parent of a current UNC player said. "None, zero, zilch. Not one email from a coach, one text, phone call, nothing."

Under Mack Brown, parents had relationships with coaches and their phone numbers. Coaches might call a parent if they felt something was going on with their son. Multiple sources have said that Belichick's son, Brian, the defensive back/safeties coach, is very personable. Belichick's son Steve, the defensive coordinator, they said, is the opposite.

"He has not talked or had a conversation with most of the guys on defense," a source said. "They don't even have his number."


The experience level and perceived nepotism with Bill Belichick's staff have been frequently called into question in the media. Internally, it is being questioned by players and parents too.

"The lack of experience the coaches have, it's ridiculous," a source said.

Belichick himself has been praised by multiple sources for his one-on-one coaching; it’s his ability to run the program that's being questioned by parents and players.

"Bill shuts people out. He's limited in what he says," a source said.

Belichick will say "hi" when he sees players in the building. His GM, Michael Lombardi, has been described by multiple sources as "rude" and "nasty."

"Nobody likes him," a source said.

The points of division are small, but the feeling among sources is that the little has become big. Things like the non-travel roster are not getting to dress in uniform at home games. Former UNC quarterback Bryn Renner, who played for the Tar Heels from 2009-2013, said he'd seen that done with practice squad players in the NFL, but not in college football.

"I think part of the tradition and in part of college sports is you are involved with a team at a high level, and game days are special, and you don't know how many you're going to get," Renner said. "Sometimes these kids are only going to put on a Carolina uniform that Saturday. And you've got to think about that. And I just have never seen it. I think it's really good for morale."

According to sources, another example of a lack of unity is that some players are selling their spare tickets for cash instead of sharing with other players and their families like UNC has done in the past.

Even after the Clemson loss, the feeling within the UNC athletic department remains the same. Given the investment made in Belichick, patience is the path, but they also understand that they hired Belichick knowing he didn't have college experience. They would like to help and support the coaches and players, but the staff needs to be open to that help as well. According to Belichick's contract, the buyout would be $20 million at the end of this year.
 
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Yeah, because he’s been right about literally almost everything regarding Bill for years. So much of the stuff he’s said about his time on the Patriots years that was always dismissed as sour grapes or a vendetta or whatever have really proven themselves to be accurate. To top it off, yeah he has a personal beef with how Belichick treated him when he started piling up the concussions that would ruin the next decade of his life.

Ted's bitterness has translated to negatively spinning most matters BB-related. That is, to the point where his credibility as a media source should be questioned. He might have a legitimate axe to grind on a personal level but the crossover is troubling. I've seen him report (editorialize) on stuff re. BB that CLEARLY was driven by personal animus and unnecessarily so.

Perhaps it's a matter of style, to some degree -- Ted is not a schooled journalist. But instances where he has offered valuably objective insider takes on BB's shortcomings in New England tend to get clouded by his anti-Bill reputation.
 


Jeff Saturday exhibiting long term affects of concussions.


I honestly thought that Belichick's resume' and track record was going to make UNC desirable place for transfers and recruits, primarily because they would see it as a road to the pro's. Instead he's turned the program and his reputation into a complete joke and no one is going to want anything to do with him or that program. Right now Drake Maye is their best recruiting tool and Belichick won't let UNC talk him up because he has a personal beef with the Patriots. That's disgraceful, the University should fire him right now.
 
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