Excessive Celebrating?

[PatsFann]

ok i'm an IDIOT, i know that already. can someone tell me why Moss got flagged for excessive celebrating ( or whatever they hell they call called it ) because he jumped onto a patriots player standing nearby but on his last TD there were three or four players celebrating and they called zip.... what gives? what was so different between the two celebrations?

 

[SoCalPatsfan90]

No, it was because Maroney came over and shook his ass a bit when Moss was doing his little Riverdance... lol

 

[Pujo]

It was a BS call, but the officials thought it was a choreographed celebration, which is illegal if it involves more than one player. Looked pretty spontanious to me, though... honestly, can you picture the Patriots spending time choreographing a TD celebration? Belichick would skin them alive.

 

[SoCalPatsfan90]

It was a BS call, but the officials thought it was a choreographed celebration, which is illegal if it involves more than one player. Looked pretty spontanious to me, though... honestly, can you picture the Patriots spending time choreographing a TD celebration? Belichick would skin them alive.

Yeah, but I think it'd be freakin' hilarious if the entire OLine busted out in Riverdance...

 

[EasyMac]

Yeah, but I think it'd be freakin' hilarious if the entire OLine busted out in Riverdance...

Maybe they could get Papelbon in for an afternoon to show them a step or two....

 

[PatsFann]

thanks guys... i guess it's just leftovers from all the other BS calls this season.

 

[rabthepat]

Total BS call.....boy it hurt us too.

 

[NEPatriot]

it was a BS call. Whenever a player has a TD, he dances or jumps up and down or goes nuts. If the ref was not happy at looking at Moss's ars, he should have asked for pats cheerleaders. I'm sure pats will send them right up for 16-0 compliment room service.

i thought the ref would enjoy more if pats cheerleaders danced.

 

[Gumby]

I thought it was thrown because Moss SPIKED the ball. That was the event when he [the ref ] reached for the flag. They hadn't even started jumping on each other or slapping each other yet at that point. He flagged them very early on in the celebration (was clearly visible in the replay - but not live).

 

[SoCalPatsfan90]

I thought it was thrown because Moss SPIKED the ball. That was the event when he [the ref ] reached for the flag. They hadn't even started jumping on each other or slapping each other yet at that point. He flagged them very early on in the celebration (was clearly visible in the replay - but not live).

It wasn't due to the spike... The view in which you see him throw the flag, you CANT see that Maroney had come over and did a hip shake.

 

[spacecrime]

Total BS call.....boy it hurt us too.

I don't see how. The guy run through our formation like a hot knife through butter. You could shift his staring point up or down, so what? He only had 70 yards to run, but once he got past Gostkowski he could have run for a thousand yards without anyone catching him. That penalty only affected the starting point of his return, not the end.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Total BS call.....boy it hurt us too.

Actually, it turned out to be totally irrelevant - or do you think that the returner would have been tackled if he had to run 85 yards instead of 70?

 

[Pujo]

I thought it was thrown because Moss SPIKED the ball.

Spiking is allowed after a TD, as long as its not done at an opponent's feet (then it's considered taunting).

 

[seven]

To horsecollar or not to horsecollar,
that is the question.

How can they miss that?

The cheap shot on Moss?

They pass on the stuff that could get men
seriously injured,
and penalize celebration.

Bad job,they almost completely lost that game.

 

[Pujo]

To horsecollar or not to horsecollar,
that is the question.

How can they miss that?

The cheap shot on Moss?

They pass on the stuff that could get men
seriously injured,
and penalize celebration.

Bad job,they almost completely lost that game.

When was Moss horsecollared?

 

[SpiderFox53]

Actually, it turned out to be totally irrelevant - or do you think that the returner would have been tackled if he had to run 85 yards instead of 70?

Kicking off from your 15 is never irrelevent. It completely changes how the kick is handled by both teams. In this case, Ghost outkicked the coverage by enough that the Giants were able to execute thier return to perfection.

If Ghost kicks from the 30 as normal, the kick would have been higher and the coverage closer when the catch was made.

The returner may have returned it to the house anyway, but you never know.

 

[seven]

When was Moss horsecollared?

Moss took a helmet to the jaw/face,10-15 yards deep.
Was on the ground for a few nervous moments.

Welker was grabbed and pulled down by the back of the neck.

 

[Pujo]

Welker was grabbed and pulled down by the back of the neck.

It's legal to take a player down by the neck. Seriously. A horsecollar tackle is taking a player down by the inside of his shoulder pads.

 

[seven]

It's legal to take a player down by the neck. Seriously. A horsecollar tackle is taking a player down by the inside of his shoulder pads.

The Jint actually grabbed for the shoulder pads
behind his head, ended up with Welker's shirt.

Is this a judgement call for the refs?
if the pads are not grabbed,it is legal?

 

[Pujo]

The Jint actually grabbed for the shoulder pads
behind his head, ended up with Welker's shirt.

Is this a judgement call for the refs?
if the pads are not grabbed,it is legal?

Yup. The rules are kind of strange in my opinion. According to retired NFL ref Jerry Markbreit (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune...6468.story?coll=cs-bears-asktheref-headlines), it's even legal to pull a player down by their hair.