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The Bill megathread (HC at UNC, girlfriend, etc.)

In general, the first words out are true and then the coverups happen.
Those werent the first words that was years later and Kraft did not say fight. Lancer just like to make things up and use whatever quotes and things he can find to twist the narrative to what he wants. In this case he's making up friends that worked for the team who apparently knows something that he himself said only 3 people know.
 
If we accept your version of event then what you're saying is that Bill crapped on the franchise by forcing Butler to fight a coach.

#IntellectualDishonesty

Show me where I said that, or admit that yet again you are putting words into my mouth.

If you want to state that Bill was justified in sitting Malcolm due to a fight, you go ahead and do that.

Of course in doing that you're changing your stance from "no one knows" to "there was a fight" but that's less dishonest than putting words in other people's mouths.

Here's what I'll state: Bill crapped on The Dynasty when he dressed Malcolm but benched him after one play for personal reasons.

That's what fits the data we have the best.

If Malcolm was sick or hung over or whatever you make him do some sprints in warm-up and if he doesn't have it you don't dress him.

Same goes for fighting with a coach: if your intent is to not use him you don't crap on the team by dressing him and wasting a roster spot.

But if your goal is to wave your willy and humiliate the guy because he ****ed your son, you dress him, play him one play, then sit him.

Of course that craps all over everyone else associated with the team, but if you are a narcissist that doesn't matter to you.
 
Yeah.... in the 6th round. After giving every NFL team multiple chances to get him instead. Amazing draft evaluation deciding that Adrian Klemm, J.R. Redmond, Greg Randall, Dave Stachelski, Jeff Marriot and Antwan Harris were more important gets than Tom Brady. What brilliance.
Everyone on this board knows what round so your just pointing out things that don't need to be pointed out. Bill drafted Brady, fact. Brady is the greatest player ever, fact. Bill drafted the greatest player ever, Fact. And of course Bill is the greatest coach and GM ever.

 
**** Rehbein deserve the credit for that pick - though Belichick is plenty happy to take it.
Pretty sure Bill's the one who told us about **** Rhebein and the work he did. But nice try again. Always be fabricating.
 
#IntellectualDishonesty

Show me where I said that, or admit that yet again you are putting words into my mouth.

If you want to state that Bill was justified in sitting Malcolm due to a fight, you go ahead and do that.

Of course in doing that you're changing your stance from "no one knows" to "there was a fight" but that's less dishonest than putting words in other people's mouths.

Here's what I'll state: Bill crapped on The Dynasty when he dressed Malcolm but benched him after one play for personal reasons.

That's what fits the data we have the best.

If Malcolm was sick or hung over or whatever you make him do some sprints in warm-up and if he doesn't have it you don't dress him.

Same goes for fighting with a coach: if your intent is to not use him you don't crap on the team by dressing him and wasting a roster spot.

But if your goal is to wave your willy and humiliate the guy because he ****ed your son, you dress him, play him one play, then sit him.

Of course that craps all over everyone else associated with the team, but if you are a narcissist that doesn't matter to you.
First I'm not putting words in your mouth. You say something and the people that read it interpret what you're trying to say. It's not my fault what you say craps on the legacy of 100s of great Patriots.

As an example Kraft used the word personal and somehow you are inferring from that not only it means there was a fight. Then you assume the fight was not a big enough deal to warrant punishment. And if that's not enough make believe. You now have him dressing Butler with the express purpose of embarrassing him. And Butler of course agrees with your version so much but for some reason goes along with the lie and would even come back and play for a man who by your words intentionally embarrassed him at the SB.

Put please go on and continue to fling crap all over the dynasty and pretend like I'm just putting words in your mouth.
 
Haha I guess Bunny's attempt to go around Patriots trademarks didn't work
Hey Bunny and Bill!


 
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Those werent the first words that was years later and Kraft did not say fight. Lancer just like to make things up and use whatever quotes and things he can find to twist the narrative to what he wants. In this case he's making up friends that worked for the team who apparently knows something that he himself said only 3 people know.
You are not following the discussion you are responding to. The first initial reports were about a fight with Steve and Butler. That happened like the day after.
 
Everyone on this board knows what round so your just pointing out things that don't need to be pointed out. Bill drafted Brady, fact. Brady is the greatest player ever, fact. Bill drafted the greatest player ever, Fact. And of course Bill is the greatest coach and GM ever.

The round only doesn't matter if you lack intellectual honesty lol.
 
If we accept your version of event then what you're saying is that Bill crapped on the franchise by forcing Butler to fight a coach.

First I'm not putting words in your mouth. You say something and the people that read it interpret what you're trying to say.

You can't show me where I said Bill forced Butler to fight a coach yet still want to claim you're not putting words in my mouth?

If you want to make the claim that Bill forced Butler to fight a coach you go ahead and do it, don't pawn it off as your interpretation of what I said then try to use that against me.

What you are doing is the classic straw man attack. You think you're clever, but it's totally transparent.



 
Pretty sure Bill's the one who told us about **** Rhebein and the work he did. But nice try again. Always be fabricating.
Yup. Rhebein did the scouting/film study and Bobby Grier interviewed Lloyd Carr. Both gave the thumbs up to BB and Pioli.
 
Haha I guess Bunny's attempt to go around Patriots trademarks didn't work
Hey Bunny and Bill!


Wait they tried to Taylor version this? LOL
 
We're not crapping on the dynasty. Bill did that when he deliberately benched Malcolm Butler in a Super Bowl for personal reasons and stopped a threepeat.
 
Haha I guess Bunny's attempt to go around Patriots trademarks didn't work
Hey Bunny and Bill!


Why would the Patriots block Bill from using his own phrases. One even has his name in it.

One would think the Patriots only gain from its continued use. I suppose maybe they plan on having Vrabel still call it a Belistrator and must avoid confusion.
 
Haha I guess Bunny's attempt to go around Patriots trademarks didn't work
Hey Bunny and Bill!



You mean to suggest the PR person who did nothing while her client trashed his image by blocking NFL scouts from watching her client's CFB players isn't good at her job?

I really wonder why her client keeps her around...
 
You can't show me where I said Bill forced Butler to fight a coach yet still want to claim you're not putting words in my mouth?

If you want to make the claim that Bill forced Butler to fight a coach you go ahead and do it, don't pawn it off as your interpretation of what I said then try to use that against me.

What you are doing is the classic straw man attack. You think you're clever, but it's totally transparent.



You're implying that Bill somehow forced Butler to get in a fight because Bill wanted to embarrass. You can't even follow the crap you make up yourself.

No matter how hard you try you can't get around the fact that something happened to cause this. Bill didn't make anything up and he didn't force anyone to behave the way they did whatever the cause was.
 
You mean to suggest the PR person who did nothing while her client trashed his image by blocking NFL scouts from watching her client's CFB players isn't good at her job?

I really wonder why her client keeps her around...
You guys never stop fabricating your own version of events. Haters gonna hate.
 
You're implying that Bill somehow forced Butler to get in a fight because Bill wanted to embarrass. You can't even follow the crap you make up yourself.

Says the guy who chews edibles in a cubicle all day?

I wrote what I wrote, and never wrote anything similar to what you are suggesting.

That "implication" is 100% a product of your ****ed-up head and the giant hard-on you have for Belichick.
 
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