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[lancerman]

By the numbers: Why Bill Belichick's UNC debut was a disaster for the ages at North Carolina

Belichick's squad posted one of the worst games in program history to open a season

www.cbssports.com

Some tidbits:

"However, the final score doesn't do justice to just how devastating a performance Belichick's debut in Chapel Hill really was for the team. Here are key stats that help contextualize just how depressingly they performed.

- Bill Belichick allowed the most points in a game of his career as a head coach, moving past a 47-17 loss to the Buffalo Bills in 2021.

• - Belichick suffered the second-worst loss of his career, trailing only a 38-3 loss to the Cowboys in 2023.
• - Belichick has trailed by 34+ points only four times in 511 games as a head coach. "

"Making matters worse, North Carolina still has No. 4 Clemson on the schedule on Oct. 4, which also comes in Chapel Hill. If the TCU matchup was any indication, the records could get even worse in a few weeks.

-North Carolina allowed the most points in a season opener in program history, surpassing the 41 allowed against 2001 Oklahoma.

• -The Tar Heels lost by their greatest margin since Sept. 27, 2018 against Miami.
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• Mack Brown never lost a game by that margin in his second stint at North Carolina. "

 

[sb1]

 

[Bill Lee]

I don’t think they hate their coach

That was true, for exactly one drive.

 

[1960Pats]

I don't follow college football but that wasn't what I expected.

Back to the drawing board.

 

[lancerman]

I don't follow college football but that wasn't what I expected.

Back to the drawing board.

College is so different because the gap in talent is massive. It really shows. Even in games where the teams are both good, you'll get crazy scores because teams will be lopsided on offense vs defense.

 

[Bill Lee]

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article311927180.html

33rD nFL TeAM

My comments in UNC Blue.

Forget the cut-off sleeves. The alleged football genius got pantsed in his college debut. North Carolina paid $10 million for Bill Belichick and got sold a bill of goods.

The students gave up before the third quarter was halfway over, right after the defense.

It’s certainly possible that this could have gone worse for Belichick and the Tar Heels, but that’s an argument over a matter of degrees.

Belichick and his brain trust promised the 33rd NFL team and yes, this was certainly at the level of what the Cleveland Browns annually perpetrate on their fans.

Personally I would have gone with the Jete, but I suppose the Browns works too.

North Carolina gave millions upon millions to a guy who convinced them this would be easy, that his genius would untie knots none of his predecessors could, and his NFL pedigree would do things none of his new peers could, only to find out that maybe this business wasn’t as easy as it looked from the outside after all?

The opening drive was a clean, clinical, 83-yard stroll to the end zone. The defense forced a routine stop. The first six minutes of the Belichick Era were everything he promised. The rest of it? It looked an awful lot like so many eras of UNC football previous.

You fire everyone and bring in 70 new players and spend tens of millions of dollars … and nothing changes.

There are a lot of coaches who could have gotten hosed 48-14 by Texas Christian on Labor Day for a lot less than what North Carolina spent for Belichick and his sons and his cronies.

They could have had Matt Patricia for a lot less. Just sayin'...

“We’re better than what we were tonight,” Belichick said.

So much for "you are what the score says you are".

Should we refer to “We’re better than what we were tonight” as the Tar Heel Way?

“We have to show that, prove it. Nobody’s going to do it for us. We have to do it ourselves.” Oh, you could hear the laughter from Raleigh, where one imagines another ACC football coach with his feet up and a cigar lit and a red Solo cup full of the good stuff as he cackled his way through the second half. You could hear it from across the border in Clemson, and from wherever Mack Brown and Larry Fedora are now, and from Chestnut Hill to Coral Gables.

A lot of laughs coming from 32 NFL cities as well.

TCU looked every bit like an established football program that knows what it’s doing — maybe not at its peak, but still — having its way with a football stew, a bunch of parts and pieces thrown into a pot to simmer in hopes some magical flavor would emerge at the hands of a celebrity chef. Other than those first six minutes, it tasted like UNC football always tastes: Bitter. Disappointing. Unfulfilling.

I bet Bunny is saying the same thing this morning, except I doubt she got six good minutes.

Now, if this were some other coach, any other coach, Jon Sumrall or Jeff Monken or whomever, most if not all of this would be written off to roster turnover and philosophical changes and all the other flotsam and jetsam that comes with a coaching change. Which is certainly true here as well. There is, if nothing else, room for improvement, and the opening few minutes certainly offered a template of how things might look if they ever go well. But neither of them would have promised what Belichick promised, or demanded what Belichick demanded. He pledged a new paradigm and delivered a debacle.

Ouch!

He was the answer, the solution, the personification of football expertise, and befitting a man of such stature, Belichick was escorted by a phalanx of three state troopers and a campus cop — a security detail was bigger than the governor’s, even though they’ve won the same number of games at North Carolina. (Belichick does get paid more.) It all went so wrong, so fast.

Tell us how you really feel!

His million-dollar quarterback went more than two hours without completing a pass and generated more touchdowns for TCU (two) than UNC (one).

Add one more grifter to the list!

The defense ran out of gas at halftime before giving up the ghost entirely, in a tribute to Tar Heel defenses past.

Traditions are traditions.

All those new players, and still the two most effective on offense, Caleb Hood and Jordan Shipp, were holdovers from the old regime. The secondary full of transfers was a mess. The lack of talent was stunning.

That's the GM we know.

It’s going to take all of Belichick’s skills to coach up this bunch. All the money. All the hype. All the celebrity starpower. Everything North Carolina’s trustees and boosters threw at the program in the desperate hope of football relevance. And what did they get for it, on a night the entire sports world was watching? Well, people will still tune in, but certainly not for the reasons the Tar Heel gentry hoped.

As I wrote before the game, everyone loves a good train wreck.

It may get better. It almost has to get better. But you never forget your first, and Belichick promised — and UNC coughed up millions for — more than this. Better than this. “Don’t lose hope,” said quarterback Max Johnson, who took over for Gio Lopez in the second half. “We’re going to continue to put our best foot forward. Continue to work.”

A fool and his money are soon parted.

For nine months the image of supreme confidence, Belichick’s face in the second half bore the same befuddled look as Brown’s did before him, and so many others before Brown. North Carolina football is undefeated in that respect, if none other.

Was he trying to use an iPhone?

 

[sb1]

Lmaooooo Vrabel with the burn

 

[Bill Lee]

Lmaooooo Vrabel with the burn

Urban Meyer: 12 of 12
Bill Belichick: 0 and 1, saying “We’re better than what we were tonight”

 

[signbabybrady]

Just a reminder that Bill still has more SB rings than anyone else in history and groomed some of the best players in NFL history.

But nice to see the gentlemen are out and fully exposing themselves.

 

[sb1]

That much?


Team Bill should probably turn Boston sports radio off today. Lol

 

[Bill Lee]

College is so different because the gap in talent is massive. It really shows. Even in games where the teams are both good, you'll get crazy scores because teams will be lopsided on offense vs defense.

The whole thing has Mark Davis-era Raiders vibes.

Things have gone to hell and you don't have the patience to build a solid foundation for the program so you overpay for a big name knowing if nothing else you'll make a big splash.

The thing is, sometimes you end up with nothing else, or even less than nothing.

Speaking of parallels to Mark Davis:

 

[Bill Lee]

Just a reminder that Bill still has more SB rings than anyone else in history and groomed some of the best players in NFL history.

He sure is a groomer... Or perhaps he is being groomed? Or both?

 

[Bill Lee]

Team Bill should probably turn Boston sports radio off today. Lol

Naw there still is that wall they feel they have to stand on, even though no one else is asking them to.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

 

[XLIX]

Just a reminder that Bill still has more SB rings than anyone else in history and groomed some of the best players in NFL history.

Just a reminder that Bill Belichick sucks as a head coach without Tom Brady.

 

[h0c2000]

Is it dumb to think that BB is the same sub .500 Head Coach now as he was before Brady?

The sane answer is no, it's not dumb.

 

[Boomer B]

 

[h0c2000]

By the numbers, 48 both the points given up and the age Bill was when Jordon was conceived.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Posted this in the wrong thread:

Here’s where Bill needs to look to make sure it doesn’t get ugly…

Duke.

If UNC loses to Duke in football they will run him out of town .

He can and will lose to Clemson, and probably Wake Forest.

He can’t lose to Duke AND have all the weird personal stuff going on.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Hahaha. It sounds awful but is also true that Bill had Tom to thank for getting laid by a 24 YO. I don’t even think Tom dates that young.