Patriots DC Terrell Williams Left Practice Monday

[Patjew]

12 weeks ago today I had a heart attack. I’m only alive because I was a half mile from an ambulance and two miles from a hospital when it occurred. Plus, someone who worked on me in the ER visited me and told me I was also one tough SOB.

Doctors put in three stents that day to rebuild the right artery in my heart. Six weeks ago this Thursday I underwent open heart surgery where 3 arterial grafts were harvested from my left arm and leg grafted into my heart to bypass 6 additional blockages of at least 75%. Today I feel like crap. I had to rest before putting my second sock on this morning. I had been staying with a niece since the surgery but came home to my house Sunday. I’m thinking I over did it the last couple of days. I still have months of recovery, rehab and uncertainty ahead of me.

On the day of my heart attack, I weighed 224 pounds at 5’10”. Today I weigh 233. That’s after 12 weeks of having next to no appetite and eating far less than normal. Fluid retention and swelling plus constant constipation is the culprit . My feet, ankles, and legs are badly and uncomfortably swollen as is my midsection. 3 fluid pills a day and prune juice are still working on that problem.

224 pounds was too heavy, but I had lost nearly 80 pounds off my top weight over the previous 5 years. I walked daily and saw a doctor regularly. Despite the weight, my blood pressure and cholesterol levels had been normal. I was conscientious of it because of my family history. My sister and only siblings has had 2 heart attacks with the first coming in her 40s. Our mother was 41 when she had her first. Her 2nd occurred a few years later. She died of congestive heart failure 16 years ago at 71.

Talking to the doctors and nurses I have over the last few months they’ve repeatedly reminded me that it’s hard to escape your genetics when it comes to health issues.

So, I ask people before getting on their high horse to lecture or blame someone for their illness or sickness to just keep it to themselves. Get well wishes and prayers for recovery are probably the more useful and humble way to go.

My horse is only of moderate height.

Thank you for the life lesson. I am glad you survived and wish you all the best in your recovery.

 

[n1997y]

I'm inclined to think employees are obligated to show up ready for work, fit for the job. This guy obviously isn't. The team should move on, right now.

Vrabes needs to put him on the PUP list until he passes the pre-camp physical for coaches.

It seems appropriate for a team to require all on-field personnel to pass a physical anyway, and to provide a health program including resources to support the health of their employees. This would be a tremendous initiative for Robert Kraft to champion, as part of his campaign to burnish his image.

 

[Thelonious]

You say some dumb things but this one takes the cake.

I like facts. I myself have a heart condition. With reduced stamina, I found the quality of my own work unsatisfactory, so I retired, in my early 70's, entirely unprompted to do so. My employer was satisfied with my work: I was not. The time to retire comes to all. Determining that time is a decision which ought to be based on facts and on an honest evaluation of one's ability to meet one's responsibilities. I have now moved on to other responsibilities, suited to my interests, needs and capacity. I now do my old work part time on a volunteer basis. I find that very rewarding. Retirement is pretty much a bowl of cherries. I am not suggesting the man be tossed in a dumpster, after all.

Employers are entitled to get their money's worth, are they not?

 

[signbabybrady]

I like facts. I myself have a heart condition. With reduced stamina, I found the quality of my own work unsatisfactory, so I retired, in my early 70's, entirely unprompted to do so. My employer was satisfied with my work: I was not. The time to retire comes to all. Determining that time is a decision which ought to be based on facts and on an honest evaluation of one's ability to meet one's responsibilities. I have now moved on to other responsibilities, suited to my interests, needs and capacity. I now do my old work part time on a volunteer basis. I find that very rewarding. Retirement is pretty much a bowl of cherries. I am not suggesting the man be tossed in a dumpster, after all.

Employers are entitled to get their money's worth, are they not?

The quality of his work is not in question.
He got dehydrated but if you think he should be fired over it by all means keep defending yourself.

 

[Thelonious]

The quality of his work is not in question.
He got dehydrated but if you think he should be fired over it by all means keep defending yourself.

I require no defense, nor do I give a fig for your opinion of me one way or the other. As for the "quality of his work," it is remarkably obtuse on your part to assert competence in the part of an employee who has been unable to show up for work for weeks and who upon his return proved unable to make it through a workday upright. He may well be a fine man, but as an employee, he is defunct. This reminds me of similar conversations re Bill Belichick toward the end of his tenure, when he had become flamboyantly incompetent as GM and only very marginally competent as HC. We wasted two or three years indulging in delusions re his competence. The price of such tenderheartedness as yours is simply too high.

 

[signbabybrady]

I require no defense, nor do I give a fig for your opinion of me one way or the other. As for the "quality of his work," it is remarkably obtuse on your part to assert competence in the part of an employee who has been unable to show up for work for weeks and who upon his return proved unable to make it through a workday upright. He may well be a fine man, but as an employee, he is defunct. This reminds me of similar conversations re Bill Belichick toward the end of his tenure, when he had become flamboyantly incompetent as GM and only very marginally competent as HC. We wasted two or three years indulging in delusions re his competence. The price of such tenderheartedness as yours is simply too high.

I assert competence in Vrabel. You seem to believe you know everything with pretty much zero information on the subject yet you continue to dig deeper and deeper into your stupid take.

 

[Thelonious]

I assert competence in Vrabel. You seem to believe you know everything with pretty much zero information on the subject yet you continue to dig deeper and deeper into your stupid take.

I believ ein Vrabels' competence as well, which i why I anticipate he find a way to move on from Williams. I suspect you realize very well that this will be the outcome, but apparently you are burdened with need to whine and pose about it, wring your hands in virtue-signalling dismay, cry out to the clouds above, over the reality of the situation. Pull yourself together.

 

[jlu52]

His defense looked pretty freaking coordinated today, against the Commanders. He's doing his job, thank you.

 

[Patjew]

His defense looked pretty freaking coordinated today, against the Commanders. He's doing his job, thank you.

I have a harder time than you calling it "his defense" yet based on all the time he missed, you're welcome.

 

[signbabybrady]

I believ ein Vrabels' competence as well, which i why I anticipate he find a way to move on from Williams. I suspect you realize very well that this will be the outcome, but apparently you are burdened with need to whine and pose about it, wring your hands in virtue-signalling dismay, cry out to the clouds above, over the reality of the situation. Pull yourself together.

You have no clue what you're talking about please enlighten us over what's the reality of the situation? Be specific, what is it that you think will prevent Williams from doing his job?

 

[Zuma]

You have no clue what you're talking about please enlighten us over what's the reality of the situation? Be specific, what is it that you think will prevent Williams from doing his job?

I personally don't think he can't do his job. But the job entails teaching, demonstrating and ****. I'm concerned something is going to happen while he's out on the field for hours...again.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I personally don't think he can't do his job. But the job entails teaching, demonstrating and ****. I'm concerned something is going to happen while he's out on the field for hours...again.

We don't know to even believe he can't do his job but let's play it out.

If he is physically limited they'll put him up in the skybox for the the year or be on the sidelines but they will manage his workload and Vrabes, Kuhr, and others will be picking up the slack. I don't see them missing a beat.

At the end of the year they'll figure out what both sides want to do next year.

 

[Thelonious]

You have no clue what you're talking about please enlighten us over what's the reality of the situation? Be specific, what is it that you think will prevent Williams from doing his job?

His poor health, likely his negligence in looking after his health, based upon his obvious morbid obesity. Again, I am attending to the facts of the matter. You apparently are interested in some sort of childish pissing contest.

 

[signbabybrady]

His poor health, likely his negligence in looking after his health, based upon his obvious morbid obesity. Again, I am attending to the facts of the matter. You apparently are interested in some sort of childish pissing contest.

Do you have any idea what these health issues are?

What's so hard for you to get? I've heard people say diabetes and others say heart related but no one knows. For all we know he had gall bladder surgery. thus you have no basis to make the assumption you're making. It's rediculous to think you know better Than Williams or Vrabel what the outcome will be.

 

[Thelonious]

We don't know to even believe he can't do his job but let's play it out.

If he is physically limited they'll put him up in the skybox for the the year or be on the sidelines but they will manage his workload and Vrabes, Kuhr, and others will be picking up the slack. I don't see them missing a beat.

At the end of the year they'll figure out what both sides want to do next year.

I see no obligation on the team's part to burden themselves in this manner. If he cannot do the job, and I think it is clear by now that he cannot, he must be relieved of his job. If they wish to provide him a golden parachute or offer him some sort of pointless sinecure, I suppose they could do so, but the team needs a full-time DC, not some PR stunt by way of demonstrating how deeply enlightened and compassionate they are.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I see no obligation on the team's part to burden themselves in this manner. If he cannot do the job, and I think it is clear by now that he cannot, he must be relieved of his job. If they wish to provide him a golden parachute or offer him some sort of pointless sinecure, I suppose they could do so, but the team needs a full-time DC, not some PR stunt by way of demonstrating how deeply enlightened and compassionate they are.

How the hell do you know it is clear he can't do the job? Based on what?

 

[captain stone]

And...?

 

[captain stone]

Yes he was still good at what he was doing. By all reports so is Williams (obviously not Superbowl good yet but still pretty good).

He's never been a DC so we don't know that.

 

[captain stone]

You say some dumb things but this one takes the cake.

Truth hurts sometimes donnit?

 

[signbabybrady]

And...?

I figured it was pretty clear. Parcells let his health get in the way to the point it played a role in his stepping down. And he even got it under control to the point he came back and led a team to SB.