Vegas has Pats at 7.5 wins. (Updated: 8.5)

[mgteich]

I think you can become average or better pretty quick when you add better starters, creating better depth, hire better coaches, and have every bad team in the league on your schedule.

We will have better starters at 4 of the OL positions and WR starting positions. That does NOT make the units better than below average. It is a long way from the #30 Offense to the number 20. It is much further to 15.

But we are nitpicking. I have stipulated that even 20 is good enough to make us competitive if the Defense produces.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

We will have better starters at 4 of the OL positions and WR starting positions. That does NOT make the units better than below average. It is a long way from the #30 Offense to the number 20. It is much further to 15.

But we are nitpicking. I have stipulated that even 20 is good enough to make us competitive if the Defense produces.

I agree we’re not really arguing and our offense could fall anywhere from 15 to 20.
But we’ve upgraded more than 4 spots at OL and WR:
- LT Campbell
- LG Strange, who missed most of last year
- C Bradbury & Wilson
- RT Moses
- WR Diggs
- WR Williams
- WR Hollins

Plus new & better OC, RB Henderson, and better play from Maye.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

On paper we look wayyyyy better talent wise than we were last year and this may be 100% true BUT what will really determine if they are better is if things gel together, which I think the coaches can have a bit to do with. Must say this is far more exciting than last year though. Everything about it is….

 

[borisman]

I broke down and took the Pats under 9.5 wins at -200. While it's quite possible they can go 10-7, I see them more as a 9 win team.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

I broke down and took the Pats under 9.5 wins at -200. While it's quite possible they can go 10-7, I see them more as a 9 win team.

them oddsmakers ain't no dummies. 9.5 is hard choice. I'll stick with 10 but not mortgaging the house on it.

 

[Triumph]

Fans of Fakebook say sign McLaurin and Parsons.

Super Bowl.

 

[h0c2000]

No way this team wins 9 games.

 

[State]

Jets win both against the Pats. No answer to the Justin Fields RPO, the stud Jets OL, and the Will McDonald IV havoc off the edge. So a record of 8-9.

 

[KCSVEN]

No way this team wins 9 games.

I agree, it's definitely 10 or more

 

[JoeSixPat]

A little outdated but still, when you have the easiest schedule in the league, you should expect to win more than half the games. - though franking 11 seemed a little rosy to me.


The reason Vegas jumped from 7 to 8 is because a lot of people are taking that action - as well they should I think.

I'll say 9

The Patriots are actually the favorites in 11 games during 2025 season

There is a lot of optimism the New England Patriots will actually win a decent amount of games during the 2025 season. The oddsmakers in Las Vegas appear to feel the same way.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[State]

beat NYJ twice

A lot of Patriot fans are thinking this going into the season. I don’t think this is likely.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

No way this team wins 9 games.

Often, just two or three things going right can propel a team to double digit regular season wins.

But the postseason is when the cream rises to the top, and I think that's the priority for most of us.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

them oddsmakers ain't no dummies. 9.5 is hard choice. I'll stick with 10 but not mortgaging the house on it.

half a win should be banned. HTH do you get half a win?

 

[TommyD4207]

Jets win both against the Pats. No answer to the Justin Fields RPO, the stud Jets OL, and the Will McDonald IV havoc off the edge. So a record of 8-9.

Just an embarrassing post.

 

[mgteich]

half a win should be banned. HTH do you get half a win?

You clearly don't understand how betting works.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

Jets win both against the Pats. No answer to the Justin Fields RPO, the stud Jets OL, and the Will McDonald IV havoc off the edge. So a record of 8-9.

Jets haven't won both games versus NE in a season since 2000.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

half a win should be banned. HTH do you get half a win?

You don't obviously but it eliminates the 'push'.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

half a win should be banned. HTH do you get half a win?

Tie?

 

[Huckleberry1]

I 100% expect them to be ready every Sunday, and I think Vrabel's goal of being able to take advantage of bad football will indeed be a thing they do. I think they still have a soon to be 23 yr old QB that needs to learn to win in the NFL. I would not be shocked to see him have more than one three interception game. He's not Tom Brady. Cousins and Mayfield each threw 16 picks last year, I think he'll be under that, but I am not sure he'll be in the single digits. If he is, then that double digit win total is 100% in reach.

I agree, and really that was all I wanted to see from them last year. Be ready every week, play smart, and play their asses off. People could try and blame the roster for this but it’s abundantly clear that Mayo didn’t know WTF he was doing, and could reach even the most minimal expectations. I’m glad Kraft reversed himself, fired Mayo, and hired Vrabel, to say the difference is striking would be the understatement of the year.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

Tie?

yes but that’s rarely