2025 New England Patriots Training Camp General Discussion

[Steve102]

I'm hoping to hear good things from Polk and Baker. I can dream can't I??

 

[PatsFan2]

 

[Steve102]

 

[Pape]

There's so much that was wrong with this team. If they fixed everything but WRs they'll be freakin' great. If they fixed nothing else but WRs, they'll still suck.

I am interested in the the two linebackers we brought in... Landry maybe a known quantity based on his body of work in Tenn but K’Lavon Chaisson is an unknown quantity for me... he flashed a bit in Vegas last year with 5 sacks... but his other numbers need to match that production... looking forward to seeing him bring it in camp...

 

[Steve102]

I am interested in the the two linebackers we brought in... Landry maybe a known quantity based on his body of work in Tenn but K’Lavon Chaisson is an unknown quantity for me... he flashed a bit in Vegas last year with 5 sacks... but his other numbers need to match that production... looking forward to seeing him bring it in camp...

The kid they brought in from the Raiders... Spillane... I am hopeful he's a Bruschi type.

 

[Pape]

The kid they brought in from the Raiders... Spillane... I am hopeful he's a Bruschi type.

miss by me, good catch by you... I forgot about him tbh... I should have added him to the Landry part of the post...

 

[Real fan 02]

I really hope Kyle Williams contributes in year one.

He has a chance to my brother. While Diggs is here I believe he has a chance to learn from an all pro and be a playmaker for drake.

 

[Ian]

Sorry - had both tabs open and lost track of which one I was in. Posts have been moved and thank you to @Pape for the heads up

 

[dliverey44]

Curses don’t exist. Some front offices are just better at recognizing talent at certain positions. The BB teams only spent two high round picks in twenty years on WR’s, they preferred vets and late round fliers. It was smart, WR has one of the highest failure rates in draft history.

Pop has the talent to be as good as any slot WR they had going back to Dave Meggett and ending with Edelman. Obviously this team doesn’t have Brady… there’s a lot that has to go right for a passing attack and offense to be effective besides “weapons.” Blocking, scheme, QB play… it’s a team game.

I fall back to those early 2000’s Patriot teams. Troy Brown in the slot was an 8th round pick…. today he’d be an UDFA, the 8th round no longer exists. The outside was manned by big physical 7th round pick David Givens. He wasn’t super fast or flashy, but he was physical, could get open and had iron grip hands. Out the other side was UDFA speedster who came from the Arena League David Patten. He was smallish but stupid fast, he took the top off the defense and forced opponents to defend the entire field.

You don’t need superweapons… you just need competent guys who can fill a role, blocking and a good QB.

I can't like this answer enough. People seem to get caught up on needing a 1-2 round super stud at WR. You don't, as Woz said you need guys that can fill a role and produce when given the chance. Imo, everything revolves around the OL giving a competent QB time. We have Maye who at worst will be just competent, but even then would succeed with good OL and decent WRs.

Diggs is a stud that runs really good routes, has good hands and most importantly understands the offenses he has been in(we will see about this offense, I am very confident though). Williams feel like a Diggs clone to me, that being said I am much higher on our weapons than others. I also feel like Booty is being slept on way too much.

 

[Ian]

Meanwhile ... in Miami. Definitely not good:

 

[pazrul72]

2001 offense - 7th in points per drive
2003 offense - 19th in points per drive
2004 offense - 5th in points per drive

In 2003 they dealt with injuries in the regular season. Antoine Smith was also on his last legs and they limited his reps in the regular season using Faulk instead. In the playoffs they got healthy and rode Smith hard.

Top ten is pretty good in scoring.

Talk about cherry picking stats. Points per drive doesn't refute what I said they were a ball control don't turn the ball over offense. They were only 16/31 in scoring not top ten in 2001. That's average not elite as your stat would suggest. Also not featured in your stat? The #1 ppg defense in 2003 and a top 5 one in 2004. 2004 with Corey Dillon was easily the best of those offenses, but before that they were just ok, not good.

 

[Ian]

Drake Maye's press conference transcript:

TRANSCRIPT: Drake Maye Post-Practice Press Conference 7/23 | PatsFans.com

Here's what Drake Maye had to say following the Patriots first practice of their 2025 Training Camp.

www.patsfans.com

 

[Real fan 02]

Drake Maye's press conference transcript:

TRANSCRIPT: Drake Maye Post-Practice Press Conference 7/23 | PatsFans.com

Here's what Drake Maye had to say following the Patriots first practice of their 2025 Training Camp.

www.patsfans.com

Love that Drake said guys are tired of losing. I believe that winning is the most important state for a QB. I like all fans want to see Drake stack wins this season.

 

[captain stone]

The fact that you have to say most makes this statement rediculous. Using most because you don't want to actually count them kind of validates them all. You don't just fraudulently do that so frequently.

Of course you do. It's easy when the league was/is actively pushing for your success.

 

[captain stone]

Polk and Baker need to hit the ground running or Taxi squad here they come.

Taxi squad? I want them on the Burger King squad.

 

[Real fan 02]

They were a Fraud conference champion, more so this past season than most other ones.

3 teams made the post season from the AFCW cap.. just like we benefited from some seasons.. the Chiefs had a lot of luck to fall in favor for them. Caught up to them in the superbowl.

 

[captain stone]

good idea... just opened one... going forward if I don't open one, someone else can feel free to open a daily TC thread if they so desire...

PATRIOTS TRAINING CAMP Thread 'Training Camp Day 1 - July 23'

Jul 23, 2025

@BobDigital made a good point in the other TC thread... stuff can get buried quickly in large threads... may be keep that one as a general discussion thread, and we can open daily threads...

For day 1 news & discussion

as soon as stuff starts hitting the interwebs, post away boys...

2025 training camp starts now...

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I think even the brunette in the glasses on the right is cute too.

I like tops on girls that exposes shoulder...

 

[captain stone]

3 teams made the post season from the AFCW cap.. just like we benefited from some seasons.. the Chiefs had a lot of luck to fall in favor for them. Caught up to them in the superbowl.

"luck"... Yeah that's the ticket...

 

[dliverey44]

There's so much that was wrong with this team. If they fixed everything but WRs they'll be freakin' great. If they fixed nothing else but WRs, they'll still suck.

Not sure I agree that there is a ton wrong with this team. Imo, the biggest problems last year were the coaching staff (schemes and teaching) and OL. This year we have a coaching staff that has done it before and are good teachers. We will actually have proven schemes on both sides of the ball, so just that change alone will make this team significantly better. several changes were made to the OL, we will see if it improves much but I would wager that it will be a lot better than last year.

I think the WR is "fixed" by that I mean there will much more production than last year. I think the OL is still a big question despite several moves being made. Rookie OTs sometimes take awhile to perform up to expectations, so I would not be surprised to see Big Will struggle. Below is a list of the top 5 OTs drafted last year and Lowe for reference. Honestly I am hoping for Fuaga type production at worst. We upgraded at RT, but Mo is an older guy who is probably going to miss a handful of games. at Center Bradbury is solid-ish against the run but trash in pass blocking(at least he has been in his career), better than Brown though. Hopefully Wilson can become the guy sooner than later because he seems equally good vs pass/run blocking.

Pick	Name	Snaps	Penalties	Pressures
5	Alt	1010	8	20
7	Latham	1087	10	47
11	Fashanu	534	7	23
14	Fuaga	1070	10	39
18	Mims	835	4	33
	Lowe	803	13	33

 

[Real fan 02]

"luck"... Yeah that's the ticket...

It's involved in every championship team.. luck.. believe it or not.. not the only thing but a small element. C'mon cap.. after a few drinks luck helped you take her home..