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OT - Pittsburgh Steelers 2025 Breakdown


Continuing my series on Potential WC teams, lets talk about the Steelers. They finished 16th in PPG on offense/23rd in YPG and 8th in PPG on defense/16th in YPG.



Notable players on Offense

Wilson was the main QB, but Fields also started 6 games to start the year. Their top pass catchers were Pickens as the clear #1. Freiermuth the TE with 650. Calvin Austin with 550. Then RBs Warren and Harris each caught around 300 yards. No young players to mention from the guys who played. Mike Williams was a disappointment and clearly a part of their plans.


For RBs it was the Harris and Warren show with Harris getting near 1050 and Warren getting 511. Then you have both QBs putting up some yards, much more than anyone else did.


Their OL for the year was (in order Right tackle to left tackle) Dan Moore, Mason McCormick, Zach Fraizer, Isaac Seumalo and Broderick Jones. Troy Fautanu their 20th overall pick was suppose to be their RT but he went down very early sadly. Dan Moore had a solid year at RT. Not great, not bad but a solid starter. McCormick was Subpar his rookie year. Frazier was an excellent rookie center. Seumalo was a good clearly starting level vet guard for them. Jones their second year OT was the weak link here... not horrible, didn’t play up to a starting level. He was a little better his rookie year. So clearly a lot of youth and potential upside.



Notable players on Defense

Starting with the DL is the seemingly ageless Cameron Heyward. Keaanu is the starting NT and Ogunjobi played a fair amount of snaps too. Loudermilk played some but not a huge amount. Then some guys played a few here and there. Overall between all the snaps I’d be surprised if they had 3 ‘true linemen in at all times. This goes to show the blurred lined between Edge/DE/OLB who in reality played a lot on the DL. Cameron of course is the star of the unit. Keaanu though listed as NT is not very heavy and a very good young player. Ogunjobi was not really a true starter level last year. IDK if it is partly age or maybe he was just never all that good, he wasn’t horrible or anything though. Loudermilk was fairly average.


Now starting with OLB/DE/EDGE. The unit’s headliner is Watt. But the unsung hero is Alex Highsmith who is his running mate who absolutely wrecks games as well. Both played near or on the line often. Particularly Watt. Herbig is their main sub and a really good pass rush specialist. This Edge unit is absolutely insane. I also need to mention Preston Smith who they traded for half way through the year. They played him more at OLB which is not his spot and he didn’t do well for them there.


Inside isn’t bad either. Queen made the probowl last year. Enough said. Wilson Payton is the guy next to him. He is more their coverage guy while Queen cleans up middle. The immortal Elandon Roberts backed them up : ). And you know how he is. Career backup, but no doubt just happy to be a part of this incredibly well built and talented LB unit across the board.


At CB was Joey Porter and the main outside guy. Donte Jackson was the #2. And Beanie Bishop the nickel. IDK is i can say anyone stepped up as the clear back up in this unit. Porter had a sophmore slump it seems, but i think a lot of that was trying to make up for his bad running mates. Donte Jackson’s bad play may have had something to do with it? Who knows. Bishop appeared subpar in his role too.. But when the entire unit plays bad usually something was going so wrong in one area it effected other things. Could that be the case here? IDK.

At Safety FitzPatrick held it together back there as best he could. Still one of the best at his spot. Deshon Elliot played well next to him. Their main back up Damontae Kazee played like a typical back up. Not good, but not so bad things fell apart.



FA Gains - Rodgers - QB, Rudolph - QB, Metcalf - WR, Darius Slay - CB, Malik Harris - LB, Juan Thornhill - S Robert Woods - WR, Brandin Echols - CB

FA Losses - Wilson - QB, Fields - QB. Pickens - WR, Moore - LT, Preston Smith - Edge, Daniels - RG, Ogunjobi - DL, Jackson - CB, Harris - RB, LB, Elandon Roberts, Mike Williams - WR


A lot to talk about here. While it seems pretty obvious to me the Steelers lost more than they gained overall talent wise unless you are a big believer in Rodgers (I'm not. I think he will do okay-ish maybe, but not better than Wilson at this point and Rudolph isn’t any better a backup than Fields) but I don’t think they are automatically as bad off as the loses vs gains suggest.


Losing a quality RT like Moore should hurt, but they have a young highly drafted guy coming in to take that spot. Daniels again is a quality RG, but he was the backup anyway. Smith is a good player, but he isn’t good at OLB and isn’t an ideal DE for them in their system. Still a decent player, but a bad fit. He did okay in his role though but was expensive depth. Losing Harris as the work horse back will matter. But he never was a high YPA guy. And while quantity is nice, without quality to go along with it i believe it to be very replaceable. And Jackson wasn’t that good. Probably a low level starter in a different scheme, but not that good.


Also Metcalf > Pickens. Though not by too much. But every little bit matters in your ace. So while they lost depth and talent on the whole, i question how much it will hurt them if they stay healthy. The only spot there was a clear loss was on the DL with Ogunjobi, and he is only an okay depth piece.


Slay is a big get for them even if he is 34. We will talk more about that in the wrap up, but a nice win there. It is questionable how much Thornhill can do at this point.



Now for the draft.

Derrick Harmon - DT at pick 21 was one of the best players on the board at the time and should be a good player for them and helps at a spot they needed it. Great pick most likely. The only question mark is his single year of solid production.


At pick 83 is RB Kaleb Johnson. I’m okay on it, but not excited. I know a lot of sources i like have him higher, but he can’t pass catch much and his acceleration is very questionable. He is thought of as high because of his top speed in pads (if he ever gets there... has a 4.57 40, but was clocked at 22MPH on the field.. Again, probably acceleration issues), his balance and power. I am not sold on him being particularly impactful. He may get 1K yards but i don’t think they will be a game altering 1K. A lot of sources I trust like him more, but this is the kind of RB I just don’t value much, even at pick 83.


Jack Sawyer, Edge at 123 was good value for them at that point. Nothing after this point seems likely to be helpful. A lot of questionable picks IMO.




Where do I see this team in 2025?

This is a tough one to project. First lets talk about the offense. The OL should improve a bit as it is young, but how much really? They lost A LOT of quality depth here. That is worth watching. So maybe the starters are better with the improvement they can expect from 4 players entering their second and third years (This of course assumes Fautanu is about as good as Moore if not better.... I think he can be... will he be? Maybe). There were questions about him being better on the inside that still need to be answered long term, though they seemed to have liked him enough to start him the year over Moore in 2024. So that is something. However even if their OL is better, it still shouldn’t be a top unit. Issues at RG and LT could still exist and RT might not be upgraded that much. C is already really good, how much better can he be in his 2nd year really? And LG will repeat with the vet being steady


At RB Harris is out, Johnson is in... and i think they may miss the ability of Harris to pass catch a bit. Not that he was amazing at it, but better than Johnson will be i think.


At WR they changed the top guy, but nothing else. Woods in, Williams out? Shouldn’t matter much. And while I think Metcalf is better than Pickens it is only by a bit. It will matter, but how much? the fact they didn’t address this more will hurt them. This unit improved a tad, but not much.


TE? No change. Still okay there. Pat is okay, but not a game breaker.


Now we come to QB. The back up situation has changed as well, but the real question is how good is Rodgers? Is he better than the combined Wilson/Fields were last year? Well let's look at Rodgers last year. He put up 19.9PPG (24th overall for PPG and YPG) on an offense with Adams, Garret Wilson and Breece Hall with some decent depth pass catchers behind them. He also had an okay offensive line. Maybe his OL is better by a bit this year... but not by much if at all and perhaps more importantly for him the outside of the Jets OL was the strength while the outside of the Steelers is probably the weakness.

I am left with nothing to assume except with what should be a better cast last year Rodgers look good stat wise while not producing much. So why would he do better with less now that he is a year older? He will start the year at 41 and end at 42. This isn’t just another year of decline. This could be a cliff year. He already has been trending down.

Overall I see this offense taking a step back.



This defense which was already good should improve. Harmon should instantly strengthen the DL more than making up for any loss of depth or slipping Heyward might have.


Jack Sawyer adds depth at OLB, where they really didn’t need much, but sure why not! I wonder how much it will help this year though... seems like a more down the road pick. Maybe seeing Watt is 30 and may want to be able to rest him a few more snaps? Who knows.


The biggest news though is Slay. He really solidifies a weakness they had on D. And maybe can help Porter bounce back from his sophomore season with more stability across from him. Nickle is still questionable, but this CB unit looks much better now. Yes he is older, but still seems to have something in the tank to give at a pretty high level.


Safety play should stay very solid. Thornhill is probably a bit more of a depth piece than starter at this point, but a good add to this unit none the less. This unit took a step up for sure addressing their 2 biggest weak spots without losing anything of note. Those being CB and lack of quality DL.



So assuming their O takes a step back and their D takes a step forward are they better or worse? To me this isn’t just a question if one unit got better than the other got worse. There is such a thing as diminishing returns and a straw that breaks the camels back. The Steelers tied the league in take aways last year, how many more can they expect to get with these new additions? It could be argued the D improved more than the offense took a projected step back, I would find that to be an interesting argument. But that doesn’t matter. This is a team that looks like it will be getting more out of balance. And that isn’t a good thing. Particularly when your offense is the bad unit


They also have a harder schedule this year. Last year was an odd year for them. They lost to the Colts, Cowboys and Browns. But beat the Chargers, Broncos, Ravens, Commanders and Cincy. So they were very unpredictable in who they would beat or lose to, much of it due to their imbalance. I could see that continuing even more so this year as they become more imbalanced. One week shutting a good team out and squeaking by, the next losing cause they can’t put up any points vs a bad team.


Imbalance, while it can lead to surprising outcomes at times usually leads to worse overall results - and with a harder record, I see them doing worse. They will be probably be 8-8 come the last game of the year and that game with the Ravens will determine if they are 8-9 or 9-8. All depends what the Ravens have to play for.
 
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I'm curious to see if Tomlin can continue his streak of going over .500. Rodgers may be better in year two since his injury, but something looked really off which him last year that it was time to hang it up. Lots of slow reacting and hesitation in his throws last year. If he has another poor year, he'll retire.
 
OT - Pittsburgh Steelers 2025 Breakdown


Continuing my series on Potential WC teams, lets talk about the Steelers. They finished 16th in PPG on offense/23rd in YPG and 8th in PPG on defense/16th in YPG.



Notable players on Offense

Wilson was the main QB, but Fields also started 6 games to start the year. Their top pass catchers were Pickens as the clear #1. Freiermuth the TE with 650. Calvin Austin with 550. Then RBs Warren and Harris each caught around 300 yards. No young players to mention from the guys who played. Mike Williams was a disappointment and clearly a part of their plans.


For RBs it was the Harris and Warren show with Harris getting near 1050 and Warren getting 511. Then you have both QBs putting up some yards, much more than anyone else did.


Their OL for the year was (in order Right tackle to left tackle) Dan Moore, Mason McCormick, Zach Fraizer, Isaac Seumalo and Broderick Jones. Troy Fautanu their 20th overall pick was suppose to be their RT but he went down very early sadly. Dan Moore had a solid year at RT. Not great, not bad but a solid starter. McCormick was Subpar his rookie year. Frazier was an excellent rookie center. Seumalo was a good clearly starting level vet guard for them. Jones their second year OT was the weak link here... not horrible, didn’t play up to a starting level. He was a little better his rookie year. So clearly a lot of youth and potential upside.



Notable players on Defense

Starting with the DL is the seemingly ageless Cameron Heyward. Keaanu is the starting NT and Ogunjobi played a fair amount of snaps too. Loudermilk played some but not a huge amount. Then some guys played a few here and there. Overall between all the snaps I’d be surprised if they had 3 ‘true linemen in at all times. This goes to show the blurred lined between Edge/DE/OLB who in reality played a lot on the DL. Cameron of course is the star of the unit. Keaanu though listed as NT is not very heavy and a very good young player. Ogunjobi was not really a true starter level last year. IDK if it is partly age or maybe he was just never all that good, he wasn’t horrible or anything though. Loudermilk was fairly average.


Now starting with OLB/DE/EDGE. The unit’s headliner is Watt. But the unsung hero is Alex Highsmith who is his running mate who absolutely wrecks games as well. Both played near or on the line often. Particularly Watt. Herbig is their main sub and a really good pass rush specialist. This Edge unit is absolutely insane. I also need to mention Preston Smith who they traded for half way through the year. They played him more at OLB which is not his spot and he didn’t do well for them there.


Inside isn’t bad either. Queen made the probowl last year. Enough said. Wilson Payton is the guy next to him. He is more their coverage guy while Queen cleans up middle. The immortal Elandon Roberts backed them up : ). And you know how he is. Career backup, but no doubt just happy to be a part of this incredibly well built and talented LB unit across the board.


At CB was Joey Porter and the main outside guy. Donte Jackson was the #2. And Beanie Bishop the nickel. IDK is i can say anyone stepped up as the clear back up in this unit. Porter had a sophmore slump it seems, but i think a lot of that was trying to make up for his bad running mates. Donte Jackson’s bad play may have had something to do with it? Who knows. Bishop appeared subpar in his role too.. But when the entire unit plays bad usually something was going so wrong in one area it effected other things. Could that be the case here? IDK.

At Safety FitzPatrick held it together back there as best he could. Still one of the best at his spot. Deshon Elliot played well next to him. Their main back up Damontae Kazee played like a typical back up. Not good, but not so bad things fell apart.



FA Gains - Rodgers - QB, Rudolph - QB, Metcalf - WR, Darius Slay - CB, Malik Harris - LB, Robert Woods - WR, Brandin Echols - CB

FA Losses - Wilson - QB, Fields - QB. Pickens - WR, Moore - LT, Preston Smith - Edge, Daniels - RG, Ogunjobi - DL, Jackson - CB, Harris - RB, LB, Elandon Roberts, Mike Williams - WR


A lot to talk about here. While it seems pretty obvious to me the Steelers lost more than they gained overall talent wise unless you are a big believer in Rodgers (I'm not. I think he will do okay-ish maybe, but not better than Wilson at this point and Rudolph isn’t any better a backup than Fields) but I don’t think they are automatically as bad off as the loses vs gains suggest.


Losing a quality RT like Moore should hurt, but they have a young highly drafted guy coming in to take that spot. Daniels again is a quality RG, but he was the backup anyway. Smith is a good player, but he isn’t good at OLB and isn’t an ideal DE for them in their system. Still a decent player, but a bad fit. He did okay in his role though but was expensive depth. Losing Harris as the work horse back will matter. But he never was a high YPA guy. And while quantity is nice, without quality to go along with it i believe it to be very replaceable. And Jackson wasn’t that good. Probably a low level starter in a different scheme, but not that good.


Also Metcalf > Pickens. Though not by too much. But every little bit matters in your ace. So while they lost depth and talent on the whole, i question how much it will hurt them if they stay healthy. The only spot there was a clear loss was on the DL with Ogunjobi, and he is only an okay depth piece.


Slay is a big get for them even if he is 34. We will talk more about that in the wrap up, but a nice win there.



Now for the draft.

Derrick Harmon - DT at pick 21 was one of the best players on the board at the time and should be a good player for them and helps at a spot they needed it. Great pick most likely. The only question mark is his single year of solid production.


At pick 83 is RB Kaleb Johnson. I’m okay on it, but not excited. I know a lot of sources i like have him higher, but he can’t pass catch much and his acceleration is very questionable. He is thought of as high because of his top speed in pads (if he ever gets there... has a 4.57 40, but was clocked at 22MPH on the field.. Again, probably acceleration issues), his balance and power. I am not sold on him being particularly impactful. He may get 1K yards but i don’t think they will be a game altering 1K. A lot of sources I trust like him more, but this is the kind of RB I just don’t value much, even at pick 83.


Jack Sawyer, Edge at 123 was good value for them at that point. Nothing after this point seems likely to be helpful. A lot of questionable picks IMO.




Where do I see this team in 2025?

This is a tough one to project. First lets talk about the offense. The OL should improve a bit as it is young, but how much really? They lost A LOT of quality depth here. That is worth watching. So maybe the starters are better with the improvement they can expect from 4 players entering their second and third years (This of course assumes Fautanu is about as good as Moore if not better.... I think he can be... will he be? Maybe). There were questions about him being better on the inside that still need to be answered long term, though they seemed to have liked him enough to start him the year over Moore in 2024. So that is something. However even if their OL is better, it still shouldn’t be a top unit. Issues at RG and LT could still exist and RT might not be upgraded that much. C is already really good, how much better can he be in his 2nd year really? And LG will repeat with the vet being steady


At RB Harris is out, Johnson is in... and i think they may miss the ability of Harris to pass catch a bit. Not that he was amazing at it, but better than Johnson will be i think.


At WR they changed the top guy, but nothing else. Woods in, Williams out? Shouldn’t matter much. And while I think Metcalf is better than Pickens it is only by a bit. It will matter, but how much? the fact they didn’t address this more will hurt them. This unit improved a tad, but not much.


TE? No change. Still okay there. Pat is okay, but not a game breaker.


Now we come to QB. The back up situation has changed as well, but the real question is how good is Rodgers? Is he better than the combined Wilson/Fields were last year? Well let's look at Rodgers last year. He put up 19.9PPG (24th overall for PPG and YPG) on an offense with Adams, Garret Wilson and Breece Hall with some decent depth pass catchers behind them. He also had an okay offensive line. Maybe his OL is better by a bit this year... but not by much if at all and perhaps more importantly for him the outside of the Jets OL was the strength while the outside of the Steelers is probably the weakness.

I am left with nothing to assume except with what should be a better cast last year Rodgers look good stat wise while not producing much. So why would he do better with less now that he is a year older? He will start the year at 41 and end at 42. This isn’t just another year of decline. This could be a cliff year. He already has been trending down.

Overall I see this offense taking a step back.



This defense which was already good should improve. Harmon should instantly strengthen the DL more than making up for any loss of depth or slipping Heyward might have.


Jack Sawyer adds depth at OLB, where they really didn’t need much, but sure why not! I wonder how much it will help this year though... seems like a more down the road pick. Maybe seeing Watt is 30 and may want to be able to rest him a few more snaps? Who knows.


The biggest news though is Slay. He really solidifies a weakness they had on D. And maybe can help Porter bounce back from his sophomore season with more stability across from him. Nickle is still questionable, but this CB unit looks much better now. Yes he is older, but still seems to have something in the tank to give at a pretty high level.


Safety play should stay very solid. This unit took a step up for sure addressing their 2 biggest weak spots without losing anything of note. Those being CB and lack of quality DL.



So assuming their O takes a step back and their D takes a step forward are they better or worse? To me this isn’t just a question if one unit got better than the other got worse. There is such a thing as diminishing returns and a straw that breaks the camels back. The Steelers tied the league in take aways last year, how many more can they expect to get with these new additions? It could be argued the D improved more than the offense took a projected step back, I would find that to be an interesting argument. But that doesn’t matter. This is a team that looks like it will be getting more out of balance. And that isn’t a good thing. Particularly when your offense is the bad unit


They also have a harder schedule this year. Last year was an odd year for them. They lost to the Colts, Cowboys and Browns. But beat the Chargers, Broncos, Ravens, Commanders and Cincy. So they were very unpredictable in who they would beat or lose to, much of it due to their imbalance. I could see that continuing even more so this year as they become more imbalanced. One week shutting a good team out and squeaking by, the next losing cause they can’t put up any points vs a bad team.


Imbalance, while it can lead to surprising outcomes at times usually leads to worse overall results - and with a harder record, I see them doing worse. They will be probably be 8-8 come the last game of the year and that game with the Ravens will determine if they are 8-9 or 9-8. All depends what the Ravens have to play for.

Yeah who knows with A-a-ron; but if I had to bet on either Redemption or the Cliff, my money's on the Cliff.

He might not get as much help from his WRs as he'll need however: Aside from DK Metcalf outside & probably Calvin Austin in the slot, the rest of them are unproven/unimpressive... And those are their top 6! There is Zero quality depth behind them.
If I were Mister Rogers, I'd keep munching the 'shrooms and maybe he'll begin to imagine that they're getting open...

They have 5 dudes who've played RB in the league plus the rookie, including our old friend Weapon CP, but none of them really stand out, though Warren's been pretty solid for a 2022 UDFA. They should be hoping that the Johnson kid is Legit; because the last thing they'll want to see is their QB dropping-back 40+ times/game because they can't establish a consistent running attack.

Their TEs are, like their RBs, solid if unspectacular, though I had expected more from Darnell Washington at this point. Last season was an improvement from his rookie season, so there's that...

Their OL if everyone is healthy has potential, especially the Tackles, though I feel that everyone should be playing on the Opposite side of Center from where they are now... Not a fan of their back-up depth either: one or two injuries and, unlike last year, they're in big trouble.
Heck, Calvin Anderson has a decent chance of actually making their 53.

Their 3-4 DEs are good, and deep. Their NTs, however, consist of a JAG (Domenique Davis) & a rookie, YaYa Black, whom I like.
They could use somebody better than Davis there, or at least in addition to him.

Their LBs run 12 deep, with quality both inside & outside. But Watt is the straw who stirs the drink in that room, if not the entire building.
It's amazing the disparity in ****tsdirt's record when Watts plays and when he doesn't.

They have Seven NFL-caliber CBs, including Two Slot CBs who are Both > Marcus the Midget, and Four NFL-caliber Safeties Plus rookie Sebastian the Dictator Castro who will definitely make their 53 on STs alone.

If the Squealers maintain their health (i.e. Watt) then they should be competitive in almost every game they play this season.
The rest will probably depend on the QB...
 
Wish Patterson was still a Patriot
 
Here is my breakdown for the Steelers. They will start out strong, collapse at the end of the season, limp into the playoffs, get eliminated Wild Card weekend. This will also be my breakdown for the Steelers in 2026. And 2027. And 2028. And 2029.
 
Trading the QB of your defense in Fitzpatrick is bold. Paying Jalen Ramsey $27m is also bold. Wasn't this guy going for cheap recently?
 
At this point they might as well have just kept pickens. You trade him but you bring in rodgers , metcalf, and Ramsey as your veteran leaders while getting rid of minkah who actually was one of the few solid leaders they had lol interesting plan.
 
So Ramsay should be the slot. I question how much this changes my prediction. Yes, it makes their D better. They had possibly a subpar slot guy but he wasn't trash or anything. Ramsey is a bitgstep up. But again. it comes down to diminishing returns. It doesn't matter how amazing your D is, decent offenses will score on it. Yeah you can mostly shut down bad offenses, but they were going to do that anyway. So while they improved, what they really needed to do was trade for offense, not defense. And it isn't like the Steelers had a lot of cap room.

Frankly this is the kind of move a team in win now mode makes. Are they in win now mode? I certainly don't think so. They are kind of in a soft rebuild. And trading away Fitzpatrick to get him is an interesting choice. He's younger, cheaper and more at a need position. They had less depth at safety than at CB.

Elliot played well next to Fitz, but can he do it alone? For fans who remember... Harmon played well for us next to Rodney Harrison, but once he left his play fell off.

The nice get for them here is the kicker of Jonnu Smith at TE. People will look at his 880 yards last year and think they might have gotten a good player, but anyone whose seem him at any point over his career knows he really isn't that good. The fact is if you throw a guy 111 balls, he will put up some numbers. The dolphins really didn't have a lot of options last year. If Smith is that big a part of your offense, that isn't a good thing. The hope that you can get good production by putting a bunch of 3rd and 4th options out there along with your #1 usually doesn't work out. It can when you have a QB who can work around it. But is Rodgers that guy anymore? I think not.

While this move should be a talent gain for Miami... I don't feel they are automatically better because of it. I made the point out them being out of balance before. And they are still that. There is also the question of balance on D. You want to have strength at all levels. That isn't to say spreading out your talent completely is the answer... you need stars who can make pop plays. But they strengthen CB at the expense of safety. While CB tends to be a more important spot, they put a big hole in their D to obtain it potentially. I question that logic. I am still firm on my stance and don't feel the need to change my prediction.
 
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So Ramsay should be the slot. I question how much this changes my prediction. Yes, it makes their D better. They had possibly a subpar slot guy but he wasn't trash or anything. Ramsey is a bit step up. But again. it comes down to diminishing returns. It doesn't matter how amazing your D is, decent offenses will score on it. Yeah you can mostly shut down bad offenses, but they were going to do that anyway. So while they improved, what they really needed to do was trade for offense, not defense. And it isn't like the Steelers had a lot of cap room.

Frankly this is the kind of move a team in win now mode makes. Are they in win now mode? I certainly don't think so. They are kind of in a soft rebuild. And trading away Fitzpatrick to get him is an interesting choice. He's younger, cheaper and more at a need position. They had less depth at safety than at CB.

Elliot played well next to Fitz, but can he do it alone? For fans who remember... Harmon played well for us next to Rodney Harrison, but once he left his play fell off.

The nice get for them here is the kicker of Jonnu Smith at TE. People will look at his 880 yards last year and think they might have gotten a good player, but anyone whose seem him at any point over his career knows he really isn't that good. The fact is if you throw a guy 111 balls, he will put up some numbers. The dolphins really didn't have a lot of options last year. If Smith is that big a part of your offense, that isn't a good thing. The hope that you can get good production but putting a bunch of 3rd and 4th options out there along with your #1 usually doesn't work out. It can when you have a QB who can work around it. But is Rodgers that guy anymore? I think not.

While this move should be a talent gain for Miami... I don't feel they are automatically better because of it. I made the point out them being out of balance before. And they are still that. There is also the question of balance on D. You want to have strength at all levels. That isn't to say spreading out your talent completely is the answer... you need stars who can make pop plays. But they strengthen CB at the expense of safety. While CB tends to be a more important spot, they put a big hole in their D to obtain it potentially. I question that logic. I am still firm on my stance and don't feel the need to change my prediction.

Yeah I don't understand how this trade helps ****tsdirt at all. They strengthened two strengths while weakening a position from which they really couldn't afford to lose anybody. Now they have only unproven rookie Sebastien the Little Dictator Castro at Free Safety behind the usually hurting somewhere Juan Thornhill; what they should've done is save those tradable assets for a WR (and a QB, but they're stuck with the one they have for at least this season).
 
I wonder how many Steeler fans out there are happy with getting Rodgers. I get the impression it's a really small minority.
 
I wonder how many Steeler fans out there are happy with getting Rodgers. I get the impression it's a really small minority.
I remember when we signed Cam. We all knew his better days were behind him and he was washed up but there was still a part of me that didn't expect it to happen but wondered what if he can turn back the clock.

I have to imagine that's how Steelers fans feel. They know it's not likely but they are hopeful he does have a bounce back year and they're telling themselves if he does we're Superbowl contenders.
 
I remember when we signed Cam. We all knew his better days were behind him and he was washed up but there was still a part of me that didn't expect it to happen but wondered what if he can turn back the clock.

I have to imagine that's how Steelers fans feel. They know it's not likely but they are hopeful he does have a bounce back year and they're telling themselves if he does we're Superbowl contenders.
Conversely, Aaron Rodgers hasn't thrown for 300 yards in a game since 2021.
 
Conversely, Aaron Rodgers hasn't thrown for 300 yards in a game since 2021.
He threw for 339 in an overtime lost to Miami late last year, but the point is a valid one, Rodgers looked washed in 2022, and it’s been nothing but downhill since, to rebound at his age would be unprecedented.

The Steelers had a very Dolphins kind of offseason - lots of big lateral moves, very few actual upgrades. They swapped an aging malcontent QB for an older, bigger malcontent, swapped a diva WR for a moderately better, older diva WR, and swapped an all pro SS for a former all pro QB (I don’t view Smith as any kind of significant upgrade).

Best case scenario, they finish exactly as they did in 2024. Much more likely, this whole thing breaks down. I have Pittsburgh as my prime candidate for a train wreck year.
 
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