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No Hunter, No Carter, No Problem take Tyler Warren

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I love Ben Coates... but he isn't worth pick 4.
while I get your point, #4 isn’t always a hit.
2019 Clelin Ferrell
2020 Andrew Thomas
2021 Kyle Pitts
2022 Sauce Gardner
2023 Anthony Richardson
2024 Marvin H Jr

Let’s just say there are more “worse than Ben” players on that list….
 
"Our OL is awful!" Patsfans Forums for the past couple of year.

"Let's get a WR!" Patsfans Forums about the 2025 draft.

.......can't make this stuff up.
 
I have been banging the drum for Warren at #4 (if Hunter is gone and you can’t get a good trade down offer) for a few weeks, have had a number of posts about it. I’m on board!
 
Apparently you haven't been paying attention Ross. What is the Deficiency?
 
I don't want to call you bad names, but this is BEYOND STUPID.
 
We need SOMEONE that can smash folks DAY1, I'm not looking for guys that MIGHT do it.
Simmons is considered the BEST OT in the draft, he had a SERIOUS injury, yet folks are clamoring for him...not sure what's up there.
We need a stud out of the gate, if you want Drake to stay out of the tent.
Campbell isn't sexy, he has some intangibles that aren't Ideal, but let's be real here, Drake made too many mistakes , he needs to be able to trust the men around him, cuz he has serious arm talent.
These are my opinions only, others are open to discussion.

Thanks
The arm length isn't BS. It's real. And you can see him getting worked by longer pass rushers in his tape. It's good tape, he's a good player, but he's not worth #4 overall, and I don't think he projects that well to tackle in the NFL. I don't think any of the tackles are worth #4 by the way.

People are clamoring for Simmons because pre-injury he was probably the best tackle in college. Banks and Conerly are right there with him, and I think Membou is the only one in the draft with a ceiling that could be a superstar. I think Ersery could be a solid pro, and should be there at 38 as well.
 
The arm length isn't BS. It's real. And you can see him getting worked by longer pass rushers in his tape. It's good tape, he's a good player, but he's not worth #4 overall, and I don't think he projects that well to tackle in the NFL. I don't think any of the tackles are worth #4 by the way.

People are clamoring for Simmons because pre-injury he was probably the best tackle in college. Banks and Conerly are right there with him, and I think Membou is the only one in the draft with a ceiling that could be a superstar. I think Ersery could be a solid pro, and should be there at 38 as well.
Fine, Haven't I ALREADY SAID get someone who CAN MAN that position day 1?
I think I said that, actually certain I have.
 
My favored guy is Josh Simmons... But i understand the whole knee issue derailing that pick at 4.

Will Campbell is the next best option... I do not care if he is considered a reach... Its not a Cole Strange type reach... You are taking the best in the position rankings, who is routinely a top ten player in the many mock drafts... 6 spots? Thats not what i consider an overdraft...

Its even less of a "reach" when the overall talent level in the draft is as weak as it has been forecasted...
Why not trade down?
If we trade back to 15-ish one of the 4 Ts (Campbell, Simmons, membou, banks) is there and you get at least a second and maybe much more.
 
Fine, Haven't I ALREADY SAID get someone who CAN MAN that position day 1?
I think I said that, actually certain I have.
I think any of them can man the position day 1. The one I feel least confident about is Campbell.
 
You think Milton is better than Maye, I can't trust your thinking at all.
 
You think Milton is better than Maye, I can't trust your thinking at all.
You'll have to show me some evidence that I said Milton is better than Maye.
I just don't think there's a vast chasm between them like many people do. I *did* say he's better than Anthony Richardson, who went top 5 two years ago.
 
I'm all set with a TE at 4, no Thanks.
Even if he turns out to be good.
We need TRENCH MEN.
Win and lose at the LOS.
Win and lose are an at all positions in the NFL, not just the LOS.

Otherwise why did one of the greatest LTs of all time, Joe Thomas, not play a single playoff game his entire career and have a 1-15 record followed by an 0-16 record?

You don't win with a bad team regardless how talented your oline is.
 
Yeah, we get a once in my lifetime unit.
 
You'll have to show me some evidence that I said Milton is better than Maye.
I just don't think there's a vast chasm between them like many people do. I *did* say he's better than Anthony Richardson, who went top 5 two years ago.
You're Signature says otherwise.
That's what I'm going with.
 
You're Signature says otherwise.
That's what I'm going with.
So...because I have a picture of Joe Milton in my profile.
Despite every single other post I've made in this forum.
I think Joe Milton is better than Drake Maye.

Some impressive detective work there, Columbo.
 
Bunch of fkn idiots.
You Win and Lose at the LOS FOR MOST PART of your games.
Maybe you can get lucky without this, it does happen.
Don't you want to DOMINATE at BOTH sides of the LOS?
Are you telling me that most games are NOT won at the LOS?
WEe can disagree on some stuff, THIS, isn't a discussion IMHO.
 
So...because I have a picture of Joe Milton in my profile.
Despite every single other post I've made in this forum.
I think Joe Milton is better than Drake Maye.

Some impressive detective work there, Columbo.
Look at the signature...yeah, I imagine that. Bah
 
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