PATRIOTS NEWS Jabrill Peppers ... NOT Guilty! ... Just has to pee in a cup for awhile

[Sect140]

If he agrees to enter the drug abuse program or already has and gets tested regularly do you still not want him on the team?

Actually he doesn’t agree to it, he won’t have a choice.

 

[lancerman]

I dono man...a lot of the juicers get mentally addicted to them because they want/need to constantly look a certain way.

As for JP, who gives a **** about him having coke....homie needs to get the DV charge dropped though.

I'd say they are probably about the same for longterm effects honestly. So many steroid users have heart issues down the road which is the big threat of longterm cocaine use.

 

[Pape]

Sorry, pretty much all of that argument is wildly irrelevant and inadmissible. As for your last sentence, he admitted to possession of the cocaine the night of the incident and well before any lawyers were involved.

It surely is not irrelevant, thats for certain. You open the door with Look how honest he is, he admitted to having coke. Well here's the thing - in domestic violence cases, 40 to 60% of them involve drugs and alcohol. JP is an admitted drug user... you draw the conclusion... by the time you object, the damage has been done

 

[Zuma]

It surely is not irrelevant, thats for certain. You open the door with Look how honest he is, he admitted to having coke. Well here's the thing - in domestic violence cases, 40 to 60% of them involve drugs and alcohol. JP is an admitted drug user... you draw the conclusion...

True but there is a lot of different kinds of drugs with very different effects. Your going to have a hard time finding a wife beater who just smokes pot, but you will find plenty who drink.

 

[Grogan14]

If he agrees to enter the drug abuse program or already has and gets tested regularly do you still not want him on the team?

If he were Ed Reed I would want him on the team. Jabril Peppers I am 50:50

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

I'd say they are probably about the same for longterm effects honestly. So many steroid users have heart issues down the road which is the big threat of longterm cocaine use.

Hmm which would I rather worry about...coke and its addictiveness and/or death vs roids and its slew of side effects...

I'm partial to keeping my balls the way they are thank you very much....

 

[Pape]

True but there is a lot of different kinds of drugs with very different effects. Your going to have a hard time finding a wife beater who just smokes pot, but you will find plenty who drink.

But we're not talking about pot are we? Thats not the drug that's been brought up, that's in the mind of the jury...

But that's not the point... The point is to refute the notion that he's a "good guy" because he admitted possession... The simple fact is they found it in his wallet... He is better served by admitting possession and getting, well in this case, the charges basically dismissed... Then trying to use that to say "what a good guy, he cooperated"? Yeah I wouldn't let that fly... But that's just me

 

[archstanton543]

This is going to an actual trial??!!
The Commonwealth is still full of overpaid, self-serving, entitled bureaucrats.

Yeah, there are actual criminal charges for domestic violence.

 

[Ross12]

Who said he was doing coke before a game? Who said he was doing coke weekly? All we know is he had some in his possession one time. A lot of assumptions being made here

 

[JohnJH]

If he’s found guilty of the DV, I wonder if they get any cap relief? Surely they put language on contracts post-Hernandez around conduct?

Just don’t know if that means they don’t pay, or also get cap relief. Man, both safety re-signs look bad for different reasons

If it falls under "Conduct detrimental to the team" or any other clause in his contract (which I hope it does), I hope they don't have to pay him any of his remaining contract or at least don't have to pay most of it.

 

[Zuma]

But we're not talking about pot are we? Thats not the drug that's been brought up, that's in the mind of the jury...

But that's not the point... The point is to refute the notion that he's a "good guy" because he admitted possession... The simple fact is they found it in his wallet... He is better served by admitting possession and getting, well in this case, the charges basically dismissed... Then trying to use that to say "what a good guy, he cooperated"? Yeah I wouldn't let that fly... But that's just me

Yes but you were saying "drugs". Drugs include prescriptions as well. Coke doesn't make someone violent if they are violent already such as football players. Coke heightens your senses, makes you more aware on the football field like Adderall but in a different way. I'm not pro coke....I think it should remain illegal. I'm just speaking from experience where some might not.

 

[Pape]

Yes but you were saying "drugs". Drugs include prescriptions as well. Coke doesn't make someone violent if they are violent already such as football players. Coke heightens your senses, makes you more aware on the football field like Adderall but in a different way. I'm not pro coke....I think it should remain illegal. I'm just speaking from experience where some might not.

sure, i get that. but honestly, in that setting, what drug would your mind gravitate to? the one that has already been mentioned?

recency bias in a round about way...

 

[JohnJH]

Although there's a slim chance he stays, I'm putting my money on Vrabel canning him. Vrabel made it clear that "Entitlement" is going away and also canning him would send a message to the rest of the team that this won't be tolerated (that there's a new "Sheriff" in town).

 

[Zuma]

sure, i get that. but honestly, in that setting, what drug would your mind gravitate to?

Yeah sounds like it was a bad situation going on there if DV was involved.

 

[lancerman]

Hmm which would I rather worry about...coke and its addictiveness and/or death vs roids and its slew of side effects...

I'm partial to keeping my balls the way they are thank you very much....

Many people have died via steroid related effects there was a whole epidemic of pro wrestlers dropping dead in their 30's and 40's. The longterm effects of both are very similar and mostly cardiovascular.

The big difference is in the immediate. You can be irresponsible and OD on cocaine if you are reckless. But something like near 80% of cocaine related deaths involve some other drug. By itself, I don't find it dangerous beyond potentially being a gateway.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

Many people have died via steroid related effects there was a whole epidemic of pro wrestlers dropping dead in their 30's and 40's. The longterm effects of both are very similar and mostly cardiovascular.

The big difference is in the immediate. You can be irresponsible and OD on cocaine if you are reckless. But something like near 80% of cocaine related deaths involve some other drug. By itself, I don't find it dangerous beyond potentially being a gateway.

Oh yea I remember those dudes. Not gonna say roids are safe, but a LOT of people using them stack multiple things and it makes things far worse side effect wise. Doing one cycle of something once a year (depending on the roid of course) is fairly safe so long as its done properly. I have seen more than 1 friend pop off because of their fun roid rage....scary...especially when the dude is huge and built like a brick **** house...

Then again the whole roid safety thing gets filed under "safe" if used in moderation. They key to abusing anything you enjoy....MODERATION... lol

 

[Grogan14]

Who said he was doing coke before a game? Who said he was doing coke weekly? All we know is he had some in his possession one time. A lot of assumptions being made here

He had possession of cocaine in his house while a team captain. Would you be so forgiving if it was crack?

 

[JohnJH]

Many people have died via steroid related effects there was a whole epidemic of pro wrestlers dropping dead in their 30's and 40's. The longterm effects of both are very similar and mostly cardiovascular.

The big difference is in the immediate. You can be irresponsible and OD on cocaine if you are reckless. But something like near 80% of cocaine related deaths involve some other drug. By itself, I don't find it dangerous beyond potentially being a gateway.

It didn't work out so well for Len Bias.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

He had possession of cocaine in his house while a team captain. Would you be so forgiving if it was crack?

Coke crack, same chemical. I think they finally made it so that crack charges are the same as coke charges. so they are treated as the same substance...which it is....and it should have always been this way...

 

[JohnJH]

He had possession of cocaine in his house while a team captain. Would you be so forgiving if it was crack?

Based on some of the comments I've read on here, it seems that some people don't look at Cocaine as being that big of a deal. I worked as a Counselor in a Detox in Massachusetts for two years. It is a big deal, even if people just use it in "Moderation". Is this the point that we've gotten to in Society now? Cocaine use is no biggie? Has it ever occurred to people that many cases of DV happen when one or both of the people involved are under the influence of one or more substances? Personally, what someone does in their private life regarding whatever substance is their business, but the moment it adversely affect's other people, then that's a problem.