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I’ve been thinking this too.
When Belichick was hired I was very optimistic. He had the experience and pretty much everything he said sounded to me like he knew what he was doing, understood the big picture, was committed to doing whatever it takes and would leave no stone unturned. I get the same feeling with Vrabel.

When I knew Belichick was going to win championships here was during his first season. While the roster he inherited was built for a different style of football, he implemented the style he knew he would win with and found out which players could be part of it.

With 125 mill of cap space I am very confident the team we put in the field week 1 of 2025 with Vrabel will be a better team than the one BB put out there in week 1 of 2009.
I hesitate to make too lofty predictions, but part of this feels like lightning could be striking twice for the Pats with BB and now Vrabel.
 
On Vrabel's chat with Kirsh and Perillo, he says, "What is this the old folks home?"

Grade A ballbuster.....love it.
WEEI, asking about spending cap space...

Greg: "This team has over $130 million in cap space to use..."
Vrabel: "This guy (Wiggy) is always asking me about money."
Wiggy: "Well that's what happens when you don't make a lot of it when you played."
Vrabel: "Hey man, 401k."
Wiggy: "Yeah I can't access that til I'm 65! I'm available if you need a TE coach."
Vrabel: "You look 65."
 
Logic. There is nothing "illogical" about the alternative view. It is your expectation, or hope. which is fine of course, but such evidence as is to be found in various statements offers no evidence whatever to support such a hope. Thet does not logically (heh!) disprove your view, but it doesn't support it either. I like clarity, perhaps to a fault ,and I see I see no valid reason whatever why such a sloppy arrangement - or lack of one - should have been allowed to develop. Certainly there is nothing in Wolf's perforamnce to date which would necessitate it.
I don't completely subscribe to the argument that because Vrabel didn't come out and say that he has final say that it necessitates that he doesn't. That said, I do agree that there is nothing worse for a franchise than to have coaches vs. GMs where they separately report to owners. We see it all the time and it ALWAYS leads to power struggles. I hope that is not the situation here. Until we know for certain one way or the other, hope is the only thing I have to go on.
 
WEEI, asking about spending cap space...

Greg: "This team has over $130 million in cap space to use..."
Vrabel: "This guy (Wiggy) is always asking me about money."
Wiggy: "Well that's what happens when you don't make a lot of it when you played."
Vrabel: "Hey man, 401k."
Wiggy: "Yeah I can't access that til I'm 65! I'm available if you need a TE coach."
Vrabel: "You look 65."
LOL i'm watching it now.
 
I don't completely subscribe to the argument that because Vrabel didn't come out and say that he has final say that it necessitates that he doesn't. That said, I do agree that there is nothing worse for a franchise than to have coaches vs. GMs where they separately report to owners. We see it all the time and it ALWAYS leads to power struggles. I hope that is not the situation here. Until we know for certain one way or the other, hope is the only thing I have to go on.
We won't know exactly how things are going to work until all of the Rooney requirements have been met. The fake title thing with Cowden reporting to Wolf seems pretty suspicious. The Giants would not have let him go to a lateral position if that was the end state. Everyone, including Wolf, playing along to avoid problems with the league. Wolf is likely aware that this is his only option if he wants to stay with the team long term once Cowden is promoted.
 
I'd also add Vrabel and Billy O are very close.. I'd watch the BC/NE pipeline.. like Bill used to have with Rutgers. Carter feels like the right pick.
He’s also very good friends with the Wisconsin head coach, Lou Fickle, both schools seem to always have really good offensive lines.
 
Like I said Ivan: I am Not giving up on Polk, we'll see now with Vrabel in the House. Good Coaching matters and we didn't have that. P.s. Penix Jr and McMillan didn't disappoint.
To me this will be one of the most interesting things to keep an eye on next training camp and beginning of the season. How are Polk and Baker doing? Still busts or improving with the right coaching.
 
True enough, to the point where we can’t judge the picks just yet. I’m sure Polk is a bust based on physical specs alone, but I will be happy to be proven wrong. It’ll be a great day if I must post “I was wrong about Polk.”
You can't call Poll a bust with that coach or locker room yet. But he has to show major improvement in camp.
 
C'mon. This is "proof"? Blowhards like Breer and Schefter love to gossip about NFL office politics and call it "analysis." The "argument" on your side is expression of an unsubstantiated hope, nothing more, that it will somehow work out. It might, but there was no need to create a sloppy, indeterminate situation which requires that the team waste time doing so. This situation is exactly similar to the asinine mismangement re Mayo where the Krafts insisted on the basis of friendship or personal affection a figure of no demonstrated competence whatever.
 
The thing is and what I was originally trying to point out is that a large percentage of his performance has not occurred in our view.

We don't really know what about his performance got him promoted to EVP. It's safe to say someone thought it was good.

Then all we have to go on is one free agent class and one draft class which includes a potential future franchise QB. I wouldn't call that nothing and it could be the most important thing Kraft sees.
We know that he worked under or with Bill and Mayo over a period in which our drafting was abysmally bad. That suffices to move on. I have yet to hear a substantive counterargument to this observation, just a lot of happy talk about how it will "all work out."
 
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We know that he worked under or with Bill and Mayo over a period in which our drafting was abysmally bad. That suffices to move on. I have yet to hear a substantive counterargument to this observation, just a lot of happy talk about how it will "all work out."
I never gave any happy talk. I pointed out that we don't really know how his performance was as a consultant or director of scouting but in both cases he got a promotion. And in his interim role he might have drafted the best player since Gronk unless you don't think Maye is good?

Either way you're going to have to deal with it he's still EVP and looks like he'll be running another free agency and draft.
 
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I’m proud already
What a difference a year makes

It’s like last year was a bad dream.
It’s crazy to see how unqualified Mayo was listening to even 5 minutes of coach Vrabel,
He seems determined and prepared to fix our program.
I wonder what players don’t fit his message,
If I had to guess, on defense he will rebuild the entire D line, pretty much.
I think white has his best year under Vrabel.
 
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