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Give me Vrabel or Give me Death

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Yes. It's just a opinion.

It's also true. He destroyed this roster and left us with one blue chip piece.
 
Bill was right not to trade his 41 year old QB? Did you NOT say that was Kraft decision earlier?

You won't find me *****ing about drafting Jimmy G in any 2014 thread I promise you. It meant nothing to me.

Those of us who knew Brady wasn't done wasn't worried a single bit.

This dolphin story you have brought up multiple times is confusing to me. Are you asking me if I'm offended Brady forced his way out of here and while under contract tried to get to Miami?

Not really. Don't care. Bill already broke Brady down after 20 years of being a miserable prick.

This idea that I think you're trying to perpetrate is that it wasn't Bill and Kraft that pushed Brady out but Brady who actively made that happen is a lie.

Give Brady the contract he wanted when he asked for it and it's not a problem.
"Bill was right not to trade his 41 year old QB? Did you NOT say that was Kraft decision earlier?"

No, I wrote it was Belichick's decision earlier. I even wrote that Lynch called Belichick and Belichick laughed at the idea. He thought it was preposterous. Lynch called back a few months later and made the same offer. He was rejected again. That's when Jimmy G. was traded to the 49ers.

The idea that you knew Brady was going to be really good at 42 is fanciful at best. There's no way I believe that. No QB in history had played well until that age. Be serious now. You didn't know.

Brady went onto the yacht the summer before the conversations about a 2 year contract.

Amazes me that you have all this admiration for Brady and the guy almost pulled a Roger Clemens, saved from forever dirtying his name only because Flores wasn't having it.
 
"Bill was right not to trade his 41 year old QB? Did you NOT say that was Kraft decision earlier?"

No, I wrote it was Belichick's decision earlier. I even wrote that Lynch called Belichick and Belichick laughed at the idea. He thought it was preposterous. Lynch called back a few months later and made the same offer. He was rejected again. That's when Jimmy G. was traded to the 49ers.

The idea that you knew Brady was going to be really good at 42 is fanciful at best. There's no way I believe that. No QB in history had played well until that age. Be serious now. You didn't know.

Brady went onto the yacht the summer before the conversations about a 2 year contract.

Amazes me that you have all this admiration for Brady and the guy almost pulled a Roger Clemens, saved from forever dirtying his name only because Flores wasn't having it.

You need to provide a link so I can read the context of what you're talking about because I can't wrap my head around your point.

I actually did n is Brady was gonna be good at 42. Just like I know that if Brady wanted to, he could be really good NOW.

sadly you didn't appreciate him and accredited everything to the boomers in charge.

So it must of been signbrady baby who said Kraft voted the trade.
 
I actually did n is Brady was gonna be good at 42. Just like I know that if Brady wanted to, he could be really good NOW.
OK... I mean I am laughing now.
 
Never let the facts get in the way of a god laugh my friend. You'll be alright.

In the meantime. Stop dissing Brady.
What facts? That 48 year old Brady would be good right now?

Do you know what a fact is?
 
What facts? That 48 year old Brady would be good right now?

Do you know what a fact is?

Yes sir.

It's a fact that Bill Belichick left this roster in complete shambles.

And no amount of back and forth and ridiculous hyperbole is going to change that.

You need to start living in the real world pal. Because it's not getting better.
 
You need to provide a link so I can read the context of what you're talking about because I can't wrap my head around your point.

I actually did n is Brady was gonna be good at 42. Just like I know that if Brady wanted to, he could be really good NOW.

sadly you didn't appreciate him and accredited everything to the boomers in charge.

So it must of been signbrady baby who said Kraft voted the trade.
Kraft voted for what now?

Just stop putting words in my mouth.

You're clearly just fighting with everyone because you're mad coming off a 4-13 season and you're not making much sense and just hating for the sake of being a hater. Enjoy your day sir.
 
Yes sir.

It's a fact that Bill Belichick left this roster in complete shambles.

And no amount of back and forth and ridiculous hyperbole is going to change that.

You need to start living in the real world pal. Because it's not getting better.

fact​

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Synonyms of fact
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: something that has actual existence
space exploration is now a fact

b
: an actual occurrence
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It sounds like you disagree with the assessment that the roster is in shambles. Weird.



Look bruh. Clearly it meant to say veto. If you can't even infer what I'm saying and ignore the auto corrects than move on. You're clearly looking to release some pent up anger over what Bill did to this team but we ain't having it here. Brady did too much for us for you to just be ****ting on him like this.
Stop F@#&ing putting words in my mouth I've never said a bad word about Brady ever.
 
This makes the most sense for Mayes long term benefit,
Question is do you want a hard nosed coach you have ties to in Vrabel?
Or do you want to roll the dice on a crown jeweled offensive mastermind?
I would cash in my lottery ticket for Johnson.
 
He's worlds better than Jabbar Van Pelt.
Not a ringing endorsement. I am confident that Maye could run EP offense if that is what Josh would implement, but I do not have confindence in a WR core in that offense. We have seen rooks and established WR's flame out here.
 
I am curious what position Vrabel would take if the Pats decided, for instance, to hire Ben Johnson instead.

1. Bears: probably not, owners are difficult and Caleb is a baby
2. Saints: probably not, no QB and they are always in cap hell
3. Jets: ****kk noooo
4. Jaguars: only one I could kinda see - owner isn't awful, Lawrence is decent; but GM isn't the best
 
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