#1 pick or Mayo ?

[Real fan 02]

I'd love to see who considered him a Day 1 starter. His most common mock position was 3rd round. Personally I had him as an outright bust and wouldn't have taken him unless with a flyer ala Boutte or Demario. I said this long before the draft.

Now, I dont think this version of Mayo is cut out to be a Head Coach but I'm certainly not going to hold Wolf's mistakes against Mayp. This is on Wolf, not Mayo.

Wolf in his own words was the one who said the development of the players citing polk specifically as they did alot of work on him coming out that he was projected to be a day one starter. Agreed the FA shortcomings aren't on Mayo heck he didn't pick half the guys on the staff.

 

[Real fan 02]

He needs to. His job and this franchise depends on it.

He will. I have a feeling McDaniels will come with him.

 

[Real fan 02]

Who considered Polk a Day 1 starting WR?

The wolf in GMs clothes

 

[PatsFan2]

He will. I have a feeling McDaniels will come with him.

I know some hate that somewhat dated Perkins Offense: but Josh McDaniels is a Great OC.

 

[upstater1]

Wolf in his own words was the one who said the development of the players citing polk specifically as they did alot of work on him coming out that he was projected to be a day one starter. Agreed the FA shortcomings aren't on Mayo heck he didn't pick half the guys on the staff.

What if the player is bad?

 

[PatsFan2]

What if the player is bad?

I think J Polk is a Player that works well with other guys. That why I think having a guy like Tee Higgins would helps him: Tet McMillan would be icing on the cake.

 

[upstater1]

I think Polk is a Player that works well with other guys. That why I think having a guy like Tee Higgins would helps him.

There's a reason I was down on Polk and gave my assessment long before the Patriots picked him. Because I watched him in college.

I also watched Wallace play over 50 games.

 

[PatsFan2]

There's a reason I was down on Polk and gave my assessment long before the Patriots picked him. Because I watched him in college.

I also watched Wallace play over 50 games.

Yes Scout stater.

 

[Real fan 02]

I know some hate that somewhat dated Perkins Offense: but Josh McDaniels is a Great OC.

He is. Drake is a modern QB.. he can do everything make everything throw. You can do so much more with a mobile QB. Look at what monken can do with Lamar. Make him back to back MVP. Josh will utilize the RBs properly. Henry will have big TDs. After what we been through as fans especially this season McDaniels is a welcome sight for sore eyes.

 

[upstater1]

Yes Scout stater.

I do not scout players at all. I pick and choose who I watch. Let me tell you: Polk's deficiencies were obvious. We should be incredibly doubtful about our personnel people. As for Wallace, I'm a PSU fan.

He was displaced by the a freshman who the Jets ended up drafting in the 1st round, a kid who also never saw the field because he is so raw. That should tell us everything about Wallace.

 

[Real fan 02]

What if the player is bad?

That too can be a possibility. What I look at is how polk was with the first team offense majority of camp. He and the qbs had great connection. Then the regular season started and he lost his way. It's far to early to give up on him.

 

[Real fan 02]

I think J Polk is a Player that works well with other guys. That why I think having a guy like Tee Higgins would helps him: Tet McMillan would be icing on the cake.

Higgins.. Cincy wants to retain him. Someone tell Paul brown you can't pay your players with rolls of quarters. We have the $$$ to pry him away. They have to also pay chase.

 

[Simpelton]

Let me be absolutely clear. Jarrod Mayo outperformed with this roster. I don't know of another head coach that I could say, with any confidence at all, could win 4 games with this clownshow of a team. Anyone who expected more than what Mayo gave us this year is delusional and should probably be sequestered for the safety of the community.

My personal benchmark for a satisfactory performance for Mayo this year was 3 wins. He gave us 4.

I hope we see him again as a head coach somewhere. He's worthy. He did a GOOD job, and I'm sorry he's not here next year. No one likes to lose 13 games, but you can't cook with an empty larder. The problems of this team fall to Wolf, and ultimately to Kraft, not to Mayo.

Mayo should never have been fired. Wolf shouldn't either, but he should be on the hotseat going forward. Kraft needs to take this outcome on the chin as his team and his responsibility and not pass the buck to a rookie HC who did his job.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

The wolf in GMs clothes

So no-one really considered Polk a Day 1 starter.

Any decent HC candidate will get rid of Glazer, Wolf, Covington, and AVP. Lots of people will now feel badly so they will start to say that maybe we can find a job at a lower level for these employees. I expect that the Krafts will reassign Glazer, otherwise everyone has to go. Leaving includes not listening to anything they previously said.

 

[Real fan 02]

I know some hate that somewhat dated Perkins Offense: but Josh McDaniels is a Great OC.

Patriots Request to Interview Lions OC

The New England Patriots have already begun their head coaching search. After making the quick decision to fire first-year head coach right after the last game

www.si.com

 

[Real fan 02]

So no-one really considered Polk a Day 1 starter.

Any decent HC candidate will get rid of Glazer, Wolf, Covington, and AVP. Lots of people will now feel badly so they will start to say that maybe we can find a job at a lower level for these employees. I expect that the Krafts will reassign Glazer, otherwise everyone has to go. Leaving includes not listening to anything they previously said.

Patriots Exec Drops Sobering Take on Rookie WR

The New England Patriots entered the 2024 NFL campaign hoping that their receiving corps would be good enough to provide adequate weapons for rookie quarterback

www.si.com

No argument from me there from your post.

 

[Real fan 02]

Let me be absolutely clear. Jarrod Mayo outperformed with this roster. I don't know of another head coach that I could say, with any confidence at all, could win 4 games with this clownshow of a team. Anyone who expected more than what Mayo gave us this year is delusional and should probably be sequestered for the safety of the community.

My personal benchmark for a satisfactory performance for Mayo this year was 3 wins. He gave us 4.

I hope we see him again as a head coach somewhere. He's worthy. He did a GOOD job, and I'm sorry he's not here next year. No one likes to lose 13 games, but you can't cook with an empty larder. The problems of this team fall to Wolf, and ultimately to Kraft, not to Mayo.

Mayo should never have been fired. Wolf shouldn't either, but he should be on the hotseat going forward. Kraft needs to take this outcome on the chin as his team and his responsibility and not pass the buck to a rookie HC who did his job.

There are some who predicted 1 win this year. All in all Mayo inherited the 32nd ranked roster, he didn't pick anyone on his staff besides Covington and Hightower If I'm being honest as I liked Mayo myself. He was better off taking a DC position in 2023 when he was interviewing around the league it would had suited him better for a HC position That successor clause likely had so much language in it to entice Mayo to stay. It got worse for Mayo as the season wore on. 6 consecutive losses... the 40-7 Chargers game was the undoing. Mayo needs to take time and decompress and try to repair his relationship with Bill. On wolf trust me.. his time is coming..

 

[Simpelton]

There are some who predicted 1 win this year. All in all Mayo inherited the 32nd ranked roster, he didn't pick anyone on his staff besides Covington and Hightower If I'm being honest as I liked Mayo myself. He was better off taking a DC position in 2023 when he was interviewing around the league it would had suited him better for a HC position That successor clause likely had so much language in it to entice Mayo to stay. It got worse for Mayo as the season wore on. 6 consecutive losses... the 40-7 Chargers game was the undoing. Mayo needs to take time and decompress and try to repair his relationship with Bill. On wolf trust me.. his time is coming..

On the one hand I agree with you but on the other this attitude is still part of the problem. The outcomes of individual games shouldn't even matter when you're this far below .500. This year was about finding out where the damage is, and about trying to figure out what your assets and liabilities are. The onus is now on Wolf to identify the issue and begin to address it.

The head coach's record shouldn't even matter unless they're in a position to win games and just not executing. That's not the situation in which Mayo was in. He didn't have the roster to win more than he did. That part of the equation wasn't in Mayo's hands. He could just do his best with what he had, and in my not so humble opinion, he did that.

 

[Real fan 02]

On the one hand I agree with you but on the other this attitude is still part of the problem. The outcomes of individual games shouldn't even matter when you're this far below .500. This year was about finding out where the damage is, and about trying to figure out what your assets and liabilities are. The onus is now on Wolf to identify the issue and begin to address it.

The head coach's record shouldn't even matter unless they're in a position to win games and just not executing. That's not the situation in which Mayo was in. He didn't have the roster to win more than he did. That part of the equation wasn't in Mayo's hands. He could just do his best with what he had, and in my not so humble opinion, he did that.

Your right. It was about setting the foundation, culture and deb of Drake. 1 of the 2 were done. It's hard for a HC to set things and put his impression on things when everything is a collaboration. Had mayo Inherited the players Bill did in 2000 he'd have much more to work with.

As mentioned from my understanding pelligrino, covington, Brian and Hightower. Hightower and covington were mayo hires. The organization offered the other guys the opportunity to stay. I also believe that had the defense stayed the course and not regressed mayo would still be here.

 

[Thunderhead]

No universe where this was an either/or. Mayo was gone regardless of the outcome vs Bills.