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Does anyone think there is a chance Mayo is one and done?

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Chalk up another L for Bill’s coaching tree. Maybe they ought to look somewhere else.
It's not fair to hang Mayo on BB's tree. Mayo came in with the aim of purposely being the anti-Bill. In Mayo's mind Bill's way was the wrong way and Mayo's way would be the right way.
 
Kraft will never pull it off without backlash.

Mayo did not get a fair shot.
To be honest I don’t think any coach who only gets one year gets a "fair shot" but there wasn't a single thing anyone could point to that Mayo did well. The defense regressed severely. The offense was worse even with a better quarterback. The players couldn't shut up and worst of all the coach provided a dumb soundbite every week.
 
5 January 1920. The day the idiot Red Sox owner, Harry Frazee, traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees for $100k plus 8% interest.
 
Kraft will never pull it off without backlash.

Mayo did not get a fair shot.
2023 record, Pats, Commanders, Cardinals: 4-13.
2024 record, Pats 4-13, Commanders 12-5, Cardinals 8-9.
Not to mention the 5-12 Chargers improving to 11-6.
Mayo did not get a fair shot. Yeah.
 
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Fire him now so we don’t run the risk of Mayo panic-blundering into a crushing win.

An interim HC is as prepared as Mayo would be.

And staple Tavai to Mayo as he goes out the door.
Oops.

Too late.
 
It's not fair to hang Mayo on BB's tree. Mayo came in with the aim of purposely being the anti-Bill. In Mayo's mind Bill's way was the wrong way and Mayo's way would be the right way.
But you know sb1 won’t miss a chance to take a slap at Bill.
 
But you know sb1 won’t miss a chance to take a slap at Bill.
Pointing out a fact isn’t any such thing. Unless you think Bill has a great coaching tree and Mayo made it that way? Lol
 
Pointing out a fact isn’t any such thing. Unless you think Bill has a great coaching tree and Mayo made it that way? Lol
It’s a stretch to consider Mayo part of Bill’s coaching tree. About the only thing Mayo showed he learned was how to stick a shiv in his mentor’s back, and Bill didn’t teach him that just was the victim when Mayo taught himself.
 
It’s a stretch to consider Mayo part of Bill’s coaching tree. About the only thing Mayo showed he learned was how to stick a shiv in his mentor’s back, and Bill didn’t teach him that just was the victim when Mayo taught himself.
He is tho and that’s another chapter in that story.

Mayo was simply not ready to be an NFL head coach right now and it showed. Never had the peer relationships coaches need (and neither did Bill in Cleveland). Never paid his dues. Never had the experience he needed to succeed in all areas of the job. When the 22 year old rookie QB says the head coach “is learning as we go” something has gone wrong with the head coach position.
 
He is tho and that’s another chapter in that story.

Mayo was simply not ready to be an NFL head coach right now and it showed. Never had the peer relationships coaches need (and neither did Bill in Cleveland). Never paid his dues. Never had the experience he needed to succeed in all areas of the job. When the 22 year old rookie QB says the head coach “is learning as we go” something has gone wrong with the head coach position.
Your second paragraph is correct, and why I can’t really see him as part of Bill’s coaching tree. He didn’t work for Bill long enough to be trained by him. As you said, he never paid his dues. It’s like saying a college dropout is representative of a Harvard education because they once audited a freshman course there.
 
I think both things can be true simultaneously.
Wolf drafted and signed disasterously, and Mayo and the coaching staff coached disasterously.

Truer words than these about this entire hellish season were never typed.
 
I've been trying to make this post for a few days but no time, anyway there was some latest development so i'll add to my opinion, that is, Kraft wants to keep Mayo, but ultimately he can't. There are technical aspects to this mess that won't allow Kraft to keep Mayo because chances are, team will get even worse next season under Jerod.

So I think Mayo will be fired, based on what I'm saying that?

Well, in no order.

There is need for a change and that everyone on earth will agree, if its the HC, or the coordinators, or the GM, whomever, but there will be changes, THATS A FACT. So if you change coordinators, many here have said, who's going to accept work under Mayo??? NO ONE with some reputation will accept that, and a young up and coming positional coach won't risk his career in this situation too. Some of these coaches have only one shot, it's like a bottom 53 roster player who can be out of the league at any time. You're going to keep in the college programs or other NFL programs in a lesser position waiting for a better shot. This is a technical aspect to this problem that can't be overseen by the Krafts. Same problem can be applied to the GM position.

Another technical issue, X and O's. Mayo's got no clue. It's crystal clear. You have, in my opinion, two different sides for a HC to work on, the technical things of football between the lines and the management/administrative side. I believe Mayo can get better in the management side, but when it comes to the game between the lines, adjustments, taking the best of the player, putting players in position to win, signing players mid season that are being badly used in other teams (the Van Noys of life), and so many other technical knowledge of the game, he is so behind to all that, it will take YEARS for him to improve in those areas and running a NFL team as a HC is not a place to learn that on the fly. He screwed up acception this challenge and Kraft screwed up thinking football was simple. That's a mistake and it needs to be corrected. He can't develop players, this team looks like amateur football, even the physical preparation, the gym side, seems subpar. A good point has been made in the last couple days, was our draft really so bad or this coaching staff is so inept they could not extract the mininum value of those players? I believe the draft was bad, but you cant carry this kind of doubt going forward. The question has a point. This team will need to bring at least 50% of new players for next season, and this locker room is already in a bad shape, that's a bad situation for a guy like Mayo to fix. What good free agents are signing to play here???

Now, 2 other things that is kind of tipping my side here on why he's gonna get fired.

1- Kraft's silence. If you are backing your coach, this week was the week to do that, and the last one too. Say it out loud, I'm convinced Jerod is going to be a fine coach, bla bla bla whatever, I believe we are in the right direction, I trust Jerod, HE'S SAFE, HE WILL BE HERE 2025. Just say it, we can disagree, but we make our mind around that.
None of that happened, so at least what I can read is that all cards are on the table and in this case, the time is against Mayo because he is really bad and what could help him is the season ending with an improvement, it didn't happen, the team looks worse every week. So there's no case here for a strong finish for him.

2- Vrabel flerting with this job so openly. In my opinion he's been in contact with Kraft and there's something going on. You don't talk about you wanting someone else's job that openly to the media. You don't talk about someone else's job (unless you are the boss) or finances at all, there's some ethics and non written rules that every worker follows. I know Vrabel seems like a guy who kicks doors and is kinda brutal, but still, if the job was secured for Mayo, he wouldn't been talking. The Jets interview for me it's nothing, he knows he will burry his coaching career there, he's got some reputation and some name in the coaching circle, but it's on thin ice, better get it right this time, he's no Belichick or Reid. So for me this interview process is just him going out there, putting some word on the media, gadging reactions. Maybe Kraft wants to stick it to the Jets again, that would be some story.

There's many other things, many that have been said here many times, but this post is getting long. I'll finish with that, and watch the game. Let's all see what happens.

Well done. Any intel on whether the children Upstairs are allowed to stay; or do they also get ****-canned like they so richly deserve?
 
I want to apologize to my younger self for saying there's no way they fire Mayo.

I was wrong.
Include me also
I did not think Kraft would can his Buddy and pay the $$$ needed to revamp the whole,e coaching and personel staff
But I’m thrilled he did.
He gained a bit of credence from me for that move
Fans first
 
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