PostGame Thread 2024 OFFICIAL WEEK 17 POST GAME THREAD: Patriots lose 40-7

[RobertWeathers]

Well, their 2nd stringers may have more to play for than their starters did the last game.

We now have the #1 pick. It'll be interesting if we show up and actually play

 

[PatsFan2]

Well, their 2nd stringers may have more to play for than their starters did the last game.

You mean our current Starters weren't Second Stringers??

 

[Thelonious]

I rewatched part of the game. (Am I a masochist?) There hasn't been much comment on the fact that before the game Harbaugh said they would "punch us in the mouth." They did, and the team, aside from Maye and a couple others, folded. That says more about how the team feels about Mayo than all the boilerplate happytalk about how much they "love playing for him." They like Mayo for the same reason that middle schoolers love to see a substitute teacher. Every day is a day off.

 

[Ross12]

I rewatched part of the game. (Am I a masochist?) There hasn't been much comment on the fact that before the game Harbaugh said they would "punch us in the mouth." They did, and the team, aside from Maye and a couple others, folded. That says more about how the team feels about Mayo than all the boilerplate happytalk about how much they "love playing for him." They like Mayo for the same reason that middle schoolers love to see a substitute teacher. Every day is a day off.

Ask any kid who their favorite teacher is, it’ll usually be the one that is nicest to them/tries to be their buddy and gives them the least work. Conversely, the teachers that work the kids hard get a bad rep with the kids as “the worst” despite actually teaching them the most.

 

[Thelonious]

Ask any kid who their favorite teacher is, it’ll usually be the one that is nicest to them/tries to be their buddy and gives them the least work. Conversely, the teachers that work the kids hard get a bad rep with the kids as “the worst” despite actually teaching them the most.

I taught school for years: high school. Thankfully, at least in a sound community, many students outgrow this attitude, not as many as we might like, but many of them. That's why I mentioned middle school, which is in many ways the darkest and least admirable interlude in our lives. These days I teach adult ed classes at the local college. Most of them are pretty well squared away. ;-)

 

[Jim Beankie]

look at what a number 1 WR can do for your team. Unbelievable play by Nabers. His breakaway speed is insane. Patriots wide receivers look like pop warner players compared to him.

My original intent for this reply was to shoot down this notion, but there's definitely more to it, and I can't disagree with you. I looked at the NextGenStats for fastest ball carriers, and I was saddened by what I saw. Nabers got up to 21.01mph. That's fine but not insane speed. The acceleration was nice but he was running away from a LB at the forefront, so it looked faster than it was. Thornton would have no trouble reaching that but looks like every other aspect of WRing was a problem. Imho, there's an issue with scheming or QB placement where WRs aren't able to catch in space to be able to get to full speed or stay at full speed during a catch. Here're the gory details.

-Gibson eclipsed Nabers' speed twice as the fastest ball carrier, getting up to 21.17mph and 21.03mph. Underutilized weapon. Should be the James White role at the very least with that 83% catch rate (1 drop). The fact that he's only had 23 targets is criminal... CRIMINAL!!!

-Maye was the fastest ball carrier in 3 games (peaked at 20.33mph). He's a beast. In a quick search JAllen has barely gone faster than that in his career.

- Secondary got it 4 times with Gonzo at 20.58mph at the fastest. CBs are the fastest players in the game, but 4 times in a season? Sad.

- DD 19.35 20.11 19.96 Boutte 18.59 Polk 19.74 : These guys aren't getting it in space. Scheme/QB placement/separation off the line? Tough to say, but Boutte and Polk are way capable of going much faster than that having been track standouts. Heck, put me in pads with a ball at ~50yrs, and I can get up to 19mph easily.

 

[Triumph]

But his personnel decisions are still on full display.

BB did not want Corky Jones and when he wanted to get rid of his axx and bring in Baker Mayfield, Thunder said NO. Everyone blames Patricia and Judge for Corkys downfall. What a joke.

This season is all Thunder who has decided to now pass the buck to Jonathan since Thunders master plan has turned to 5hit. His HC, Front Office, Free Agents, Draft picks, bologna cap spending.

 

[Triumph]

We now have the #1 pick. It'll be interesting if we show up and actually play

The Jets would.

And, the Pats are the new Jets.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The Jets would.

And, the Pats are the new Jets.

No question

 

[Grogan14]

No question

Still not the Jets who have not been to a super bowl in 56 years and still suck.

 

[Triumph]

No question

Especially If rumors are correct that Rex Ryan is going back to HC the Jets.

 

[Grogan14]

Especially If rumors are correct that Rex Ryan is going back to HC the Jets.

Rex Ryan is always a good coach for 2 years and then his arrogant loudmouth act wears thin. I actually think hiring Ryan is a good move for the Jets, because it will reignite fan interest in the short term.
He will turn the defense around quickly, because they have talent and he knows how to evaluate defensive talent in terms of bringing in good players.

 

[PatsFan2]

Especially If rumors are correct that Rex Ryan is going back to HC the Jets.

Ryan > Mayo an anybody > Mayo.

 

[Triumph]

Rex Ryan is always a good coach for 2 years and then his arrogant loudmouth act wears thin. I actually think hiring Ryan is a good move for the Jets, because it will reignite fan interest in the short term.
He will turn the defense around quickly, because they have talent and he knows how to evaluate defensive talent in terms of bringing in good players.

Perhaps Rex learned something from his first go round as an NFL HC?

Belichick did.

If Rex finds a QB he has the ability to win a Super Bowl. Without a doubt he squeezed everything that Mark Sanchez ever had. Back to back AFC Championship games, but vs HOF QBs.

 

[Brotherblues]

His response to being asked why he said Gibson would start over Stevenson on the radio in pregame vs Stevenson starting was "coaches decision"

Zero. Absolutely ****ing zero accountability.

Your coach doesn't know what he's doing and that shows up on the field with the players.

Get. His. Ass. Out. Of. Here.

This one is an easy guess. He told the press, the fans, and every microphone the plan, but never actually told AVP directly. Wouldn't surprise me if AVP trotting Stevenson out for the first snap was intentional trolling. Petty and brilliant. By the time Jerod realized it, it was too late.

As Mayo said, it was a coach's decision. What he's not saying is the coach who decided was AVP. And Mayo can't elaborate without looking even worse than he already does.

After all, what's he gonna say?

"I never told my OC the plan and expected him to hear it through the media"? Or "I told my OC but he overruled me"?

 

[Triumph]

Still not the Jets who have not been to a super bowl in 56 years and still suck.

But, but, but Belichick sucks. Cant draft. Cant relate to todays players. His style of leadership has gone the way of the flip phone. The game has passed Bill Belichick by.

Mayo's coaching style is on the cutting edge of todays NFL game. Just look at the change in the Pats players now that Belichick aint around no more. Its only going to get better too.

 

[Brotherblues]

Godchaux is clueless

He's said a lot of stuff this year that just makes me want him gone along with his pal Mayo. They're cut from the same cloth.

 

[Ross12]

 

[Triumph]

Still not the Jets who have not been to a super bowl in 56 years and still suck.

Now, the Patriots have the GM and HC separate as different branches. Like the Jets.

Each branch can rightfully point the blame at the other for this season. Like the Jets.

Somebody needs to be held accountable and fired so that ownership can claim that they have made significant changes for 2025. Change the narrative. Call in Curran to relieve. AVP looks like the obvious choice since the NE offense is in the dumpster. Jonathan does not like the play calling. Fire the OC. Like the Jets.

Trading away Ladd McKonkey was pretty stupid. Just ask Mayo. Groh or some obscure Dunkin Doughnuts coffee fetcher in the GM office needs to be fired as well. Curran can claim that he was director of WR scouting. Sounds pretty important to me. That way the Patriots scales are rebalanced. Like the Jets.

 

[Ross12]