PostGame Thread 2024 OFFICIAL Postgame Thread: Patriots fall 28-22 to the Rams

[MrBigglesWorth]

Everyone talks about mayes growth but it's the teams growth that has become pathetic. Same procedural mistakes. Can't run the ball. We have a defensive coach and the defense stinks. Had we spent some cash on some vets we'd have some depth.

 

[JohnJH]

You can also make a case for EDGE, and I've even seen a couple of people suggest Mason Graham, too.

Basically, we need talent in positions in all three phases of the game. The Defense is old in many area's and needs much more talent from the Line to the Back-End. OL, WR, TE, even upgraded and deeper talent at RB. They cannot screw up the 2025 FA period or Draft up. Maye is the "Real Deal", but he's young and lacks talent to help him reach his potential. I'm also not a fan of the Front Office or Coaching Staff. Been with this Team since the 70's, so I've seen some horrible Patriots Teams. I don't want the Drake Maye Era Team to be one of those 3 years from now.

 

[PatsFan2]

I don’t want to fire AVP. I want consistency for Maye. People here where screaming here that changing OC every year can screw a rookie QB and now we want to do the same thing with Maye??

Is AVP the best OC? No but I see improvement from the beginning of the season. I think he is doing a good job developing him. They will be fine with better players even with AVP.

Keep AVP and at some point in the next 2-3 years Drake will outgrow the system and then you make a change. Pretty much like Baltimore did with Roman and Montken.

Maye needs consistency going in year 2.

You have a Potentially Great Player you get him a Great OC. Ben Johnson or Bust we ain't winning another Game.

 

[PatsFan2]

I hate the way Gibson runs. Always picks the wrong hole. I dont really care how shifty you are if you're picking the wrong hole and getting stopped at the line. Rham gains yardage all the time. I dont think he's great but... Not a Gibson fan. Ezekiel >>> Gibson

Sideways Hasty too no vision whatsoever.

 

[PatsFan2]

Am I the only one who thinks Rham is not good.
He dances forever, he turns sideways immediately on short yardage, inside runs.
Gibson is much more nimble and shifty.
Rham barely gained 1 yard (or TFL) on most of his 1st down runs.
I know we can blame the OL too, but did you see Williams and even 5-foot-nothing Corum??

No! he's Good but we need a Great RB like Barkley or Gibbs from Detroit.

 

[signbabybrady]

Are the constant one score game losses a byproduct of bad coaching or a roster void of talent?

Yes

 

[Lagaffe_07]

You have a Potentially Great Player you get him a Great OC. Ben Johnson or Bust we ain't winning another Game.

You are gonna be disappointed then !

Drake Maye will be fine with AVP next year. The main problem on offense is the lack of play maker.

 

[scott99]

I really think his level of play AND leadership are being noticed not only by his own teammates and coaches, but by other teams as well. He will be the reason why free agent receivers and TEs will no longer be against signing with the Pats. I think the Pats will land some GOOD weapons in free agency.

 

[PatsFan2]

You are gonna be disappointed then !

Drake Maye will be fine with AVP next year. The main problem on offense is the lack of play maker.

We know who the Franchise is but You'll see for yourself. A Potentially Great QB can't perform up to his potential with a ****ty OC. Drake is the only player who's putting Fannies in those seats. I expect the Krafts to cater to him 100%.

 

[Zoomnbyu]

Only 6 pages 2 hours post game...Patsfans users don't give a **** apparently. All the band wagoners have run to the hills apparently

Some of us don't want to read through six pages of the coaches, players, Krafts, etc... suck. There's some great learning in here but also a lot of typical NE Region *****ing about everything.

 

[javajunky]

I'm I the only one wanting Wallace at LG and Strange at C?

 

[signbabybrady]

Drake was really playing well at times today.

The defense was brutal. First games but Barmore and Yanick did nothing to help the pass rush. Zero answers all day for Kupp or Puca.

AVP seems to be coming around a little bit but Mayo and Covington seem to be getting worse.

Still got time to get a couple more wins this year and then we can look at games like today, Tenn, or Sea with a woulda coulda attitude.

Fix OL and WR in FAency because we need to use our first 2 picks on D after ignoring it last year.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

We know who the Franchise is but You'll see for yourself. A Potentially Great QB can't perform up to his potential with a ****ty OC. Drake is the only player who's putting Fannies in those seats. I expect the Krafts to cater to him 100%.

And changing coordinator between year 1 and year 2 would do a disservice to Maye.

The team needs to put playmakers on offense way before changing coordinator. If you can bring talent next year and the offense is still stagnant then yeah you change coordinator.

Mayo isn’t getting fired after year 1 so you have no shot at Ben Johnson.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Whether or not Maye ends up as a top 3 NFL QB at any point, he is just getting better and better each game, doesn’t look like a rookie at all anymore (to me anyway), and is making eye popping plays. Barring injury it really looks like we found the guy.

It’s a shame much of the rest of the offense is unacceptable. At one point in the first half had only had 3 incompletions and they were all drops. Lowe’s penalty — and the fact that he had been warned about it TWICE already that game — was a drive-killer and exactly the type of thing he should have been benched for, if we actually had someone else who could play the position. We can’t punch it into the end zone when in the red zone because our lines can’t make holes and no WR can beat close coverage on a short field.

And that’s before talking about the defense.

I hope they plan on spending the money this offseason because we have a QB that can lead us to the postseason, and he’s being held back by basically everyone else.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Because he's a rotational guy being forced into a heavy snap count. That's basically the entire DL except White (and Barmore once he is back in game shape) frankly. Godchaux is a depth guy and so is Wise. And Barmore is the only four tool guy on the list that's plus at both the run and rushing the passer - White still needs work on contain and shedding inside vs the run, Godchaux can't rush, Wise is inconsistent (he's fine as a rotational guy if he's with plus talent) and Pharms and Roy are end of rotation/backups.

You can only play with what you've got. It's where they could've spent money this offseason outside the organization and ceded not to. This is the result. Even if Barmore hadn't had the blood clots they'd be challenged all year as constituted.

Yeah, even when barmore is back you need to add at least a legit dl to the rotation. At least our run d hasn’t gotten gashed a couple weeks in a row now , but another body will go a long way.

Im still interested to see what the d will look like with barmore closer to himself,if that happens this year. I think our main problem is not getting home with 4 rushers, and good qbs are able to eat up the blitz. The only bad qb we have left is richardson, the rest will be good tests for us to see if any progress is made. Im thinking defensively we have multiple needs next year at ocb, edge, and dl rotation. But there should be plenty options to obtain all next offseason

 

[sb1]

Are the constant one score game losses a byproduct of bad coaching or a roster void of talent?

A team that just doesn’t know how to win yet.

The difference between a good and bad team in the NFL isn’t that large.

 

[dliverey44]

he did said it was a miscomm. in the pgpc

Even if miscommunication the pass was too high for Pop

 

[raduray]

I don't like Drake "I'm giving you one" Maye very much right now. That NEEDs to get ironed out of his system because if it doesn't they ain't going to be winning at a very high level consistently.

I think that INT was a miscommunication with Pop.

 

[PatsFan2]

And changing coordinator between year 1 and year 2 would do a disservice to Maye.

The team needs to put playmakers on offense way before changing coordinator. If you can bring talent next year and the offense is still stagnant then yeah you change coordinator.

Mayo isn’t getting fired after year 1 so you have no shot at Ben Johnson.

Our next Six Opponents are all Playoffs Contenders...we were all but eliminated Today. Thought Maye would have pulled it out but He Don't have the complimentary horses like other Teams.

 

[ViperGTS]

I think that INT was a miscommunication with Pop.

Yeah I know, thing is I don't know who is right. I was blaming Maye 100 percent, then it was Pop. Then I am looking at the safety coming down and wondering if he did throw it to where pop was going, does he pick it off as well?

We will never know unfortunately.