As bad as Polk has been…

[PatsFan2]

If the 2024 Patriots offense could block, some of our WR's could look great... we'll never know.

Our WR's problem is they can't catch Thornton now Polk have stone for hands on Baker we'll see.

 

[Wozzy]

Totally disagree Wozzy I have ran that Scenario in my mind many times "Brady stays".

His wife meant more to him than you did.

 

[Wozzy]

Our WR's problem is they can't catch Thornton now Polk have stone for hands on Baker we'll see.

You got to be able to block first. Horse/cart

 

[Wozzy]

@TheRainMaker was talking about the 10-year drought in between 2004 and 2014 where they didn't win a Super Bowl and probably would have had they hit on one of those guys in between.

The ten year drought in-between 2005-2013 Brady was one of the highest paid players in the NFL.

The margins for victory and depth on the roster were thinner. They came close though...

 

[upstater1]

It’s not appearing anyone at WR drafted after him is faring much better so far this season.

WR’s drafted after Polk in rounds 2/3:

Adonai Mitchell: 10 catches, 109 yards.
Malachi Corley: 1 catch 4 yards. 1 touchback.
Jermaine Burton: 1 catch, 47 yards
Roman Wilson: 0 for 0
Jalen McMillan 10 catches, 109 yards.
Luke McCaffrey: 12 catches for 111 yards.

The highest producer through the entire remaining draft from there is Jordan Whittington in the 6th, who’s posted 18 for 201. Still nothing Earth shattering.

Feels like we just drew a short straw with the run of WR’s right before us. The quality of the position group dipped tremendously after those guys were off the board. McConkey, Coleman, Leggette, Worthy, BTJ.., all of these dudes are looking like hits so far.

They could've draft Ladd McConkey. 35 catches for 440 yards.

 

[PatsFan2]

His wife meant more to him than you did.

X-Wife.

 

[PatsFan2]

They could've draft Ladd McConkey. 35 catches for 440 yards.

It's week 10 and we still have quite a number of WR's under 100ys on the season go figure SMH.

 

[Wozzy]

X-Wife.

He's still pining over her even after the karate teacher knocked her up.

He wasn't going to put your fandom over his family.

He also didn't want to rebuild in 2020 at 43 years of age... which is what the Patriots had to do with or without AJ Brown.

 

[Ian]

The ten year drought in-between 2005-2013 Brady was one of the highest paid players in the NFL.

The margins for victory and depth on the roster were thinner. They came close though...

That's why hitting on one of those guys would have been massively helpful. Sort of can't believe they whiffed that bad for that long. Save for Malcolm Mitchell (who ended up getting hurt and had his career cut short too soon), they didn't have much luck drafting high there, and he was a 4th round pick.

Dobson's probably the only other guy who also had a shot at contributing at any level, but he was never the same after he broke his foot. Had some early drops, but he had started coming on until his injury that year (he had 519 yards and 4 TDs in his rookie season). They were absolutely snake-bitten there, unfortunately.

 

[upstater1]

That list of WR draft comparisons is the most insane thing ever. And that's all under BB!!
So, it's a bit unfair to judge Wolf so harshly for his first draft & offseason as "de facto GM", where these guys have only had 1/2 a season with an overall garbage roster & coaching staff.

I think if Polk can withstand the onslaught of this trial-by-fire, he could still develop into a solid #2 or 3 WR. It's just a bad case of the drops that has crushed his confidence as a rookie. We'll see if Baker gets a shot to contribute. But, next year it could be Pop, Polk, Boutte, Baker as our primary 4 WR's - with a BIGTIME #1 addition.

Every team looks the same. If you leave off the 5 they hit on, you're going to have a 67% failure rate.

It's a very dumb analysis.

Keion over all the receivers behind him that made it. We're comparing taking a DE to a WR now.

How easy is this to do?

There are a bunch of good WRs in the NFL every year. If we're looking at the fact that you're taking a DE or a CB instead of the good WRs that make it (ignoring of course all the bust WRs also taken after the DE or CB) it's just a ridiculous exercise.

Consider the infamous 2019 drafting of Harry. Only 2 of the 9 receivers taken in the first 2 rounds actually stayed to sign a new contract with the team that picked them. Between Harry and Metcalf, 5 of the WRs selected busted, guys like Artega-Whiteside, Hardman, Isabella, etc.

Drafting in hindsight means everyone is Ozzie Newsome, drafting before the fact makes you a Bobby Grier.

 

[TheRainMaker]

The ten year drought in-between 2005-2013 Brady was one of the highest paid players in the NFL.

The margins for victory and depth on the roster were thinner. They came close though...

Not sure what that has to do with drafting a player. They had picks like everyone else, but continually passed on cheap talent listed in the previous post.

 

[Wozzy]

That's why hitting on one of those guys would have been massively helpful. Sort of can't believe they whiffed that bad for that long. Save for Malcolm Mitchell (who ended up getting hurt and had his career cut short too soon), they didn't have much luck drafting high there, and he was a 4th round pick.

Dobson's probably the only other guy who also had a shot at contributing at any level, but he was never the same after he broke his foot. Had some early drops, but he had started coming on until his injury that year (he had 519 yards and 4 TDs in his rookie season). They were absolutely snake-bitten there, unfortunately.

I mean they had the best weapons of Tom's entire career during that stretch. Moss, Welker, Gronk and Hernandez in their prime... weapons was least of a problem than the line play and defense.

They let Seymour go and gave Ty Warren a massive building block sized contract... he immediately suffered a career ending hip injury and they were on the hook for all that money. We had to watch UDFA Kyle Love play next to Wilfork for the next four years... that was unfortunate. They gave Leigh Bodden a hefty deal for a corner in his advanced years, he immediately got hurt and his career was over.

The margins were thin... it's not coincidence they won three rings in the beginning when Tom was paid like a 6th round rookie, then three more at the end when he took less and they were kicking salary cap debt down the road. A good but cheap QB is a cheat code.

 

[Wozzy]

Not sure what that has to do with drafting a player. They had picks like everyone else, but continually passed on cheap talent listed in the previous post.

Supposedly that was when BB was one of the best drafters in the NFL... it's hard to win a ring.

Just because the dynasty teams made it look easy, doesn't make it so...

 

[SlowGettingUp]

Without defending their WR picks, I note that in the draft it is all too easy to complain "We picked crappy player X when we could have picked all-star player Y!" There is almost always some Y that is better than X.

It's like investing - very easy in retrospect.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

The Pop Douglas take is reasonable: but Pre Draft it was said that Ladd can line up on the outside too he was not one dimensional. IF we're getting a WR in the Draft in 2025 we have to get one from the very Top. I am not very high on the group as a whole very weak Draft.

Yeah I believe they could have made it work. Hopefully we can land hunter or mcmillan next year. If theyre gone plenty of other good players that can help us at other positions. Either way they should sign Higgins so drake has something besides pop and henry.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

That's why I am willing to give it until next year before I make a judgement on Polk (and Baker for that matter).

But at the moment, passing up on McConkey, who was one of my draft binkies, is looking like an epic fail.

Yeah this isn’t a second guess…as a GA fan I was LIVID in the moment that they didn’t just take Ladd. Kid’s a baller

 

[PatsFan2]

Yeah I believe they could have made it work. Hopefully we can land hunter or mcmillan next year. If theyre gone plenty of other good players that can help us at other positions. Either way they should sign Higgins so drake has something besides pop and henry.

Don't forger K Boutte he and Maye seem to have the best connection.

 

[PWRxWLF]

It’s not appearing anyone at WR drafted after him is faring much better so far this season.

WR’s drafted after Polk in rounds 2/3:

Adonai Mitchell: 10 catches, 109 yards.
Malachi Corley: 1 catch 4 yards. 1 touchback.
Jermaine Burton: 1 catch, 47 yards
Roman Wilson: 0 for 0
Jalen McMillan 10 catches, 109 yards.
Luke McCaffrey: 12 catches for 111 yards.

The highest producer through the entire remaining draft from there is Jordan Whittington in the 6th, who’s posted 18 for 201. Still nothing Earth shattering.

Feels like we just drew a short straw with the run of WR’s right before us. The quality of the position group dipped tremendously after those guys were off the board. McConkey, Coleman, Leggette, Worthy, BTJ.., all of these dudes are looking like hits so far.

Out of curiosity, have these guys been given as many snaps as Polk has before his “mental hurdle”?

 

[WhatJustHappened]

They could've draft Ladd McConkey. 35 catches for 440 yards.

That's what I was really hoping for...was fkn SHOCKED when they traded down right there.

 

[signbabybrady]

That’s a brutal list. Had they hit on just one WR with Tom, you could add at least one more ring and the 10 year drought ends sooner.

Yeah I mean Moss and Welker sucked we definitely needed more weapons.

Gronknandez too.