Pats front office at the deadline

[PatsFan2]

Marginal is being nice. Drake knows his WRs not named pop all suck that's why he rather run for 95 yards.

I am not so sure on Pop Dougals Real: really liked that guy below and thought we had him in Pop. I think we are sadly mistaken.

Ladd McConkey 2025 Stats per Game - NFL - ESPN

The 2025 NFL season stats per game for Ladd McConkey of the Los Angeles Chargers on ESPN. Includes full stats, per opponent, for regular and postseason.

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[Wozzy]

You are really loosing it now wozzy LOL.. gonzo is exceptional.. Marco is a walking pass interference call.. Bolden can't even get on the field.. Jon and Marcus get toasted each game.

You’re ridiculous… our defense spend the entire game on the field because our offense stinks. They also can’t stop the run because of injuries and the coaches can’t adjust. The CB talent is superb, if you lose at the line of scrimmage it won’t matter how good your defensive backfield is.

 

[Wozzy]

^^
This is the worst case scenario.

I've been fairly lucky in that I started following the Pats in 1990. Although we had 2 terrible **** MacPherson years, we've had Tuna, Pete, and Belichick coaching the team, all HOF HCs. Although we wasted the roster talent on those Pete years, we were never this terrible.

We’re now in our post Jimmy Johnson Cowboys phase and Jonathan Kraft thinks he’s Jerry Jones.

 

[Wozzy]

He still had 73 yds one terrible drop and opened things up for his Team. Still better than our ****ty WR's. Some of you love to ***** about paying for actual Talent... how does it feel to watch marginal NFL Talent on Sundays?? That's our N.E. Patriots.

73 yards and one terrible drop… and you want to pay top dollar for that?

Ricky Pearsall is about to prove the 49ers didn’t have to pay Brandon Aiyuk at all and they could replace him with a cheap rookie.

You people have a weapons fetish, when football is won in the trenches.

 

[PatsFan2]

73 yards and one terrible drop… and you want to pay top dollar for that?

Ricky Pearsall is about to prove the 49ers didn’t have to pay Brandon Aiyuk at all and they could replace him with a cheap rookie.

You people have a weapons fetish, when football is won in the trenches.

Yes Woozy we can win with a collaboration Three - Fours and Fives masquerading as #1 and 2 WR's.

 

[Wozzy]

So none of them are Game changers of field flippers? So by your logic WRs shouldn't be put in the hall of fame they should not even be given all pro nods.. becuase it's all about the offensive line.

No, you build from the inside out. Fix your QB and your line first, then you can add flourishes last.

Nobody else can do their jobs if the line doesn’t do their job first. Front to back… in that order. WR’s are the last person to touch a ball for a pass play to go right.

 

[Wozzy]

Yes Woozy we can win with a collaboration Three - Fours and Fives masquerading as #1 and 2 WR's.

Julian Edelman has 3 rings being the best WR on this team, he was only ever a #2. Troy Brown has 3 rings, exactly the same.

WR’s are necessary but highly overrated by fans who don’t truly understand football.

 

[Steve102]

73 yards and one terrible drop… and you want to pay top dollar for that?

Ricky Pearsall is about to prove the 49ers didn’t have to pay Brandon Aiyuk at all and they could replace him with a cheap rookie.

You people have a weapons fetish, when football is won in the trenches.

Everything needs to be OL at this point. they cannot keep Maye in the pocket and they cannot run the ball.

 

[Wozzy]

Everything needs to be OL at this point. they cannot keep Maye in the pocket and they cannot run the ball.

I’d make the Eagles or Lions the teams to emulate. Always focus on the offensive and defensive lines, you’ll be able to find everything else afterwards.

Also you have to fire Wolf… he can’t spot talent.

 

[Patsfan1645]

I figure it will take 2-3 offseasons or so before all the talent is drained from this roster and we look like the worst team in the NFL.

The collaboration apologists here will tell us the entire time that all it will take is more time.

This is how it felt back in the day, Tony Eason was the next great Patriot QB... it would just take more time.

What team looks worse right now?

 

[PatsFan2]

Julian Edelman has 3 rings being the best WR on this team, he was only ever a #2. Troy Brown has 3 rings, exactly the same.

WR’s are necessary but highly overrated by fans who don’t truly understand football.

Those Guy are better than anything we have now get it through your skull Wozzy. Pop Dougals and Slow Polk are not even close. Yeah I'm souring on Pop Douglas... Maye averaged 5.5 yards a pass play yesterday that is Pedestrian for QB who has ****ty WR's.

 

[PatsFan2]

What team looks worse right now?

We all waiting Woozy.

 

[PatsFan2]

Everything needs to be OL at this point. they cannot keep Maye in the pocket and they cannot run the ball.

We need WR's who can get out of their way too. We don't seem to have any.

 

[Wozzy]

What team looks worse right now?

Even the worst teams in the NFL have some talented pieces. But the Raiders for example have worst talent and a backup QB starting. The Colts and Titans have no QB’s.

We’re not just losing due to a lack of talent, it’s largely due to coaching as well. Some boneheaded game management decisions, an undisciplined team that that creates a lot of penalties and that can’t adjust to what opponents are doing.

 

[Patsfan1645]

I agree that we need better talent at the WR position and I also agree that we need more talent on the line, I probably lean more towards the line as the priority but we also need better coaching. Knowing the pocket will collapse fast the route concepts need to be designed so the qb is throwing the ball in a very short span of time. I remember when the Pats had no run game and would dink and dunk with Welker all day and that was the run game. We had coaches that helped us win despite the short comings at trying to run. This team does not have those coaches and we cant run or throw well enough to offset anything and here we are at the bottom. Lots of changes need to happen and talent needs to be brought in and that must include coaching talent.

 

[Wozzy]

Those Guy are better than anything we have now get it through your skull Wozzy. Pop Dougals and Slow Polk are not even close. Yeah I'm souring on Pop Douglas... Maye averaged 5.5 yards a pass play yesterday that is Pedestrian for QB who has ****ty WR's.

WR’s on a team that can’t block or throw can’t produce.

Randy Moss on the 2006 Raiders couldn’t produce… and he is better than any superweapon WR in the league right now.

It’s a team sport, WR’s are the last guys to touch the ball. Learn the game.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Imagine trading Dugger, Bourne, and Godchaux.
The cap space the Patriots would have would be unmatched.

You do realize those trades would cost the Pats over $13 mil in cap space, because they just resigned them, so their cap hits would accelerate

 

[Steve102]

We need WR's who can get out of their way too. We don't seem to have any.

OL needs to come first at this point. Everything else is second.

 

[Real fan 02]

Yes Woozy we can win with a collaboration Three - Fours and Fives masquerading as #1 and 2 WR's.

Or by wozzy logic last week Wilson a real #1 had 115 more than our entire WRs had.

 

[Real fan 02]

I am not so sure on Pop Dougals Real: really liked that guy below and thought we had him in Pop. I think we are sadly mistaken.

Ladd McConkey 2025 Stats per Game - NFL - ESPN

The 2025 NFL season stats per game for Ladd McConkey of the Los Angeles Chargers on ESPN. Includes full stats, per opponent, for regular and postseason.

www.espn.com

I like lad too. But go back to the Houston game.. that's what pop could be on a weekly basis. Pop would have had better production if they stop trying to run the ball when it wasn't working.