Osborne also wants out

[AQPE]

This is beyond mayo. This is an organizational problem. Embrace this because it's looking This way it what it takes for organizational changes to be made. Losing exposes this.

But they do now have “checks and balances” and people are patting The Scatback and The Nebbish on the back for identifying the next great HC 5 years ago.

 

[Pape]

I'm open to the idea of offense play calling change. Yesterday was a glaring display of this. The team cannot hide or fool anyone anymore. I fully expect the team to surround Drake with real game changers in the off season. We went from a winning culture to a losing culture and I've never seen a loosing team that didn't have all the problems we see with our team. I agree with every sentiment you posted.

So do you involve Ben McAdoo in the offense at this point? I don't know if he is actively involved on game days, would be interesting to find out the answer to that question... Or if the team is even considering such a move... Though I'm not sure how good he is... Iirc his offenses had midlin' results... Still, it's got to be better than what we've been doing...

 

[Pape]

But they do now have “checks and balances” and people are patting The Scatback and The Nebbish on the back for identifying the next great HC 5 years ago.

Nebbish = Jonathan

Who's the scatback?

 

[borg]

A member of Wolf's stellar 2024 Free Agent class

Chunka......quit
Osborne.......wants out
Brisket.........stable pony / aerial butcher

 

[Real fan 02]

So do you involve Ben McAdoo in the offense at this point? I don't know if he is actively involved on game days, would be interesting to find out the answer to that question... Or if the team is even considering such a move... Though I'm not sure how good he is... Iirc his offenses had midlin' results... Still, it's got to be better than what we've been doing...

Mcadoo is interesting because he too is heavily involved with Drake development. I would at least go that route with him as a player caller. I have no problem with AVP being the OC, but there Cleary needs to be a play calling Change.. with Drake at QB you have to be aggressive and properly utilize his skill set. We scored 5 TDs in 2 games and still can't win a game.

 

[Real fan 02]

But they do now have “checks and balances” and people are patting The Scatback and The Nebbish on the back for identifying the next great HC 5 years ago.

Here's what I believe... over the years RK "tolerated" alot of things becuase we won. He entrusted bill to run his organization and for the better part of 19 season bill was masterful. When Brady left and the QB position became a dud and the losing culture was created it bothered him. So here we are.. we are a losing culture, with a good and ascending young QB..

 

[ErniesPinkStripes]

 

[Real fan 02]

I thought he was already released.

 

[Love The Drake]

I think the answer would be to keep this style offense in place for Mayes development.
But Maye seems like a smart kid who can pick up any offensive system.

So here it goes

Options Keep AVP,
Try Macadoo
Bring In Mcdaniels

next season options

Stefanski
Moore
Coen
Caley
Slowik
Johnson
Kingsbury
Kubiak
Phillips
Flores
Vrabel
Robinson
Mcdaniels
Petzing

 

[vicspats]

Wow. Does anyone else here think that most wide receivers are Prima Donna’s ?? Must be impossible to draft good ones, they all thinking they are the next Moss or Rice without doing much. Oh well.. at least we don’t have to put up with boring Bill and his tyrannical demeanor, at least now we get to hear what the rookies really feel. Speaking of “feelings”… how we feel about being 1-6???? Ooohhhhhh yyyaaaaaa!!!

 

[Ross12]

A member of Wolf's stellar 2024 Free Agent class

Chunka......quit
Osborne.......wants out
Brisket.........stable pony / aerial butcher

When it happens once you can blame the GM. But when several guys are all trying to quit you have to look at the coaching

 

[vicspats]

He is way to laid back and you can never let your players say anything they want. You need to draw a line that they can't cross without some penalty. Otherwise you get this crap.

I love it …

 

[vicspats]

If Osborne has posted this , he needs to be traded or cut first thing tomorrow .

Polk need to be benched for next 3 games. Unofficial team wide insta/ social media policies will need to be established and strictly enforced.

Become hard nosed, else the team will start to take a deep dive from the abyss we are in . I think you need to identify leaders who at least show the correct attitude and effort on field even if they don't have the talent.

Get some run defense fatties whomsoever is available.

The next 6 weeks is audition for everyone to save their jobs including coaches.

Hire an external media / communications expert who can coach both the coach as well as players into how to address media and not say more than what is needed. You don't need to be belichick but no need to be an open book. Have too many problems already and don't want unnecessary media fueled controversies and team disarray.

Mayo should go through a personalized leadership program for next 4 weeks on what to say and what not to say and how to be a leader and better NFL head coach .

Haha… leadership program. Those should have been done 10 years ago. He HAD the greatest leader to learn from. It’s Opposite Day down at One Patriot place for the next 5 years at least. Rome is burning!!

 

[Ross12]

He is way to laid back and you can never let your players say anything they want. You need to draw a line that they can't cross without some penalty. Otherwise you get this crap.

Worse to me is that many times he has said that he says things in the media because he “knows players listen to this stuff and read it” and he is sending a message to them via the media. So when he calls them soft he is doing it hoping they read it themselves. Stark contrast against Bill who always pushed the team to ignore the noise and lean on one another. But also creates a problem because he can’t exactly go out there weekly and “send messages” to his players via the media but then get upset when his players effectively do the same thing by “sending messages” back to him via their social media.

 

[vicspats]

I think you have to go back to 2007 to find a coach that was fired after just one year. I just don’t see RK admitting to that mistake after one year. I think we’re stuck with him for at least two.

At least into next year I think as well. If they start 0-8 I think it’s ovah!!

 

[Clonamery]

I think the answer would be to keep this style offense in place for Mayes development.
But Maye seems like a smart kid who can pick up any offensive system.

So here it goes

Options Keep AVP,
Try Macadoo
Bring In Mcdaniels

next season options

Stefanski
Moore
Coen
Caley
Slowik
Johnson
Kingsbury
Kubiak
Phillips
Flores
Vrabel
Robinson
Mcdaniels
Petzing

LOL. What to do, what to do. It's scary out there and it's not even Hallowe'en.

 

[vicspats]

Here's what I believe... over the years RK "tolerated" alot of things becuase we won. He entrusted bill to run his organization and for the better part of 19 season bill was masterful. When Brady left and the QB position became a dud and the losing culture was created it bothered him. So here we are.. we are a losing culture, with a good and ascending young QB..

Tolerated ? …. What? Winning? The team the envy of all pro sports? Hernandez? Spygate? Deflategate? Watergate? Exchanging 100 million into 7000 million? Kraft for all his successes got lucky. Extremely lucky. We are bound by the law of averages to suck for the next 5 years at least. Enjoy the ride. The first 40 were pretty cool. 20 year stretch unheard of.

 

[PatsFan2]

Somebody tell Ossie not so fast we would like to see him add to that TD Catch.

 

[SinceGroganWalkedIn]

The fact that he openly shared this tells me players don’t respect Mayo and his locker room.

No Basis for that comment. Cmon. It's about players being their own business entity, and they know with each injury on the o-line, their season's pass catching stats are going to be a bust in terms dollars on their next contract. It's nothing to do with Mayo, it's business.

 

[Triumph]

The fact that he openly shared this tells me players don’t respect Mayo and his locker room.

I am amazed how fast this team has fell apart from within.

Kraft is the one who is responsible. If you're going to fire Belichick at least have the guts to do it so Brady would not leave. The GOAT should have never left and played on another team.

These players are not stupid. They know which HC they can get over on and who does not play. There was a former Pats player doing color on one of the other games yesterday. Did not catch his name. This guy went on and on about practices for special teams when he was a Patriot. Nothing but respect and praise for the coaching.