Mayo Made The Right Call, The Only Call - Brissett over Maye

[sb1]

I think yesterday was a textbook Brissett game. Limited mistakes but hard to see that style of play overcoming a big deficit. Used his legs when he needed to. Got hammered a couple of times but recovered. Tough dude. Thought he missed open guys downfield a couple of times.

 

[BelizePats]

I think yesterday was a textbook Brissett game. Limited mistakes but hard to see that style of play overcoming a big deficit. Used his legs when he needed to. Got hammered a couple of times but recovered. Tough dude. Thought he missed open guys downfield a couple of times.

100% agree. You can easily see his physical limitations but where he differs from Maye right now is the ability to process what's in front of him. Maye has all the phyical tools but the difference between a rookie and a 8 or 9 year vet is night and day in terms of how they see the field and process information.

 

[KCSVEN]

100% agree. You can easily see his physical limitations but where he differs from Maye right now is the ability to process what's in front of him. Maye has all the phyical tools but the difference between a rookie and a 8 or 9 year vet is night and day in terms of how they see the field and process information.

Really? You would have played Jacoby over Stroud last year? Tyrod Taylor over Herbert?
Maye played yesterday Pats probably put up 28 points. Maye sees the field and processes post snap WAY better than Jacoby. Jacoby is supposed to process better before the snap. Though it mostly did not seem like it yesterday.

Jacoby missed the read on the blitz right up the middle, he threw a rookie mistake off back foot should have been picked in the end zone pass. Have not seen the all-22 and he did some good things, but he made several rookie mistakes that people are afraid Maye would make and then also did not make plays that were there that Maye would make.

 

[Wozzy]

Really? You would have played Jacoby over Stroud last year? Tyrod Taylor over Herbert?
Maye played yesterday Pats probably put up 28 points. Maye sees the field and processes post snap WAY better than Jacoby. Jacoby is supposed to process better before the snap. Though it mostly did not seem like it yesterday.

Jacoby missed the read on the blitz right up the middle, he threw a rookie mistake off back foot should have been picked in the end zone pass. Have not seen the all-22 and he did some good things, but he made several rookie mistakes that people are afraid Maye would make and then also did not make plays that were there that Maye would make.

Maye was a mess this offseason lining his guys up, recognizing blitz, and receiving a clean snap... this was against inferior competition running bland vanilla schemes. The kid's 21 years old and played less college ball than all those guys you mention above, he's not like them.

Brissett's not playing because he is a better passer than Maye, he's not... he's playing because he's currently a better pro QB. Yesterday's game was mostly error free in the operation side of things. Announce the play, break the huddle, recognize the blitz, snap the ball and do all of this quickly... this is where Maye struggled. He got better as preseason went on, but not good enough to start.

Get past the first month and if the offensive line has improved reevaluate then... Maye has to take the job, you don't just hand it to him.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Really? You would have played Jacoby over Stroud last year? Tyrod Taylor over Herbert?
Maye played yesterday Pats probably put up 28 points. Maye sees the field and processes post snap WAY better than Jacoby. Jacoby is supposed to process better before the snap. Though it mostly did not seem like it yesterday.

Jacoby missed the read on the blitz right up the middle, he threw a rookie mistake off back foot should have been picked in the end zone pass. Have not seen the all-22 and he did some good things, but he made several rookie mistakes that people are afraid Maye would make and then also did not make plays that were there that Maye would make.

If maye truly is ready you could be right. This is a big if though, preseason and regular are 2 very different things. Caleb and bo nix were pretty poor yesterday after flashing a bit in the preseason too. Lou anaroumo would have beena tough test for a rookie imo. I hope Drake is ready either for week 5 or week 8 after the overseas game. If we could manage to be 2-2 or 3-4 and maye is legitimately ready this season could get interesting!

 

[PatsFan2]

Really? You would have played Jacoby over Stroud last year? Tyrod Taylor over Herbert?
Maye played yesterday Pats probably put up 28 points. Maye sees the field and processes post snap WAY better than Jacoby. Jacoby is supposed to process better before the snap. Though it mostly did not seem like it yesterday.

Jacoby missed the read on the blitz right up the middle, he threw a rookie mistake off back foot should have been picked in the end zone pass. Have not seen the all-22 and he did some good things, but he made several rookie mistakes that people are afraid Maye would make and then also did not make plays that were there that Maye would make.

We are not looking for perfection but Biscuit did miss some plays and he should have saw that Blitz coming right at him. That said he didn't lose the game for us he did a lot of smart things.

 

[PatsFan2]

@Wozzy: kudos again you were so right about that Bum Okorafor.

 

[KCSVEN]

Maye was a mess this offseason lining his guys up, recognizing blitz, and receiving a clean snap... this was against inferior competition running bland vanilla schemes. The kid's 21 years old and played less college ball than all those guys you mention above, he's not like them.

Brissett's not playing because he is a better passer than Maye, he's not... he's playing because he's currently a better pro QB. Yesterday's game was mostly error free in the operation side of things. Announce the play, break the huddle, recognize the blitz, snap the ball and do all of this quickly... this is where Maye struggled. He got better as preseason went on, but not good enough to start.

Get past the first month and if the offensive line has improved reevaluate then... Maye has to take the job, you don't just hand it to him.

No he wasn't, your just saying words randomly. There was no evidence of that.
He's not playing because Wolfe is following what he learned in Green Bay and not adjusting his MO because he just thinks it worked before and I'll do it again.
CJ STROUD STARTED LESS GAMES THAN MAYE IN COLLEGE AND WAS YOUNGER THAN MAYE AT THE START OF LAST SEASON! WHY DO YOU JUST SAY WORDS THAT ARE NOT TRUE?
Let's not forget Stroud said Maye was ahead of where he was coming in, the guy that should know more than anyone what it takes,
Jacoby is NOT a better pro QB than Maye today, there is ZERO evidence of that.
Maye outplayed Jacoby, Mayo said it. He won the job and they were too scared to put him in afraid of the negative feedback if it did not go well but they had ZERO credibility to lose by playing Jacoby, everyone expected 4 wins max.

 

[PatsFan2]

No he wasn't, your just saying words randomly. There was no evidence of that.
He's not playing because Wolfe is following what he learned in Green Bay and not adjusting his MO because he just thinks it worked before and I'll do it again.
CJ STROUD STARTED LESS GAMES THAN MAYE IN COLLEGE AND WAS YOUNGER THAN MAYE AT THE START OF LAST SEASON! WHY DO YOU JUST SAY WORDS THAT ARE NOT TRUE?
Let's not forget Stroud said Maye was ahead of where he was coming in, the guy that should know more than anyone what it takes,
Jacoby is NOT a better pro QB than Maye today, there is ZERO evidence of that.
Maye outplayed Jacoby, Mayo said it. He won the job and they were too scared to put him in afraid of the negative feedback if it did not go well but they had ZERO credibility to lose by playing Jacoby, everyone expected 4 wins max.

Let's be a little positive Bro we all know Maye is the better QB but we are 1-0 with Biscuit let's ride the wave until it fizzles out.

 

[Pats2000]

Go Pats !! Well we are not getting a bagel this season. Feels so good to get the first one. Here's hoping this isn't the proverbial "even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometimes". Didn't feel like it, they played a very familar patriots brand of mistake free football. yikes perhaps go 2-0 against Seattle !!

And regarding what I said regarding Mayo perhaps here is probably a more ~ gentler/pc ~ way of saying the same thing. The dude got limited time, don't need the distractions. Rookie head coach. He will learn...
See 1:13 of this.

I think if they can get serviceable QB play from Brissett, you ride him as long as possible. Until he gets hurt or he absolutely sucks. Giving Maye time to really get his feet under him, get reps in practice, get his weak areas coached up not in a do or die situation. That's where you really give the rookie the best chance to succeed

 

[Wozzy]

No he wasn't, your just saying words randomly. There was no evidence of that.
He's not playing because Wolfe is following what he learned in Green Bay and not adjusting his MO because he just thinks it worked before and I'll do it again.
CJ STROUD STARTED LESS GAMES THAN MAYE IN COLLEGE AND WAS YOUNGER THAN MAYE AT THE START OF LAST SEASON! WHY DO YOU JUST SAY WORDS THAT ARE NOT TRUE?
Let's not forget Stroud said Maye was ahead of where he was coming in, the guy that should know more than anyone what it takes,
Jacoby is NOT a better pro QB than Maye today, there is ZERO evidence of that.
Maye outplayed Jacoby, Mayo said it. He won the job and they were too scared to put him in afraid of the negative feedback if it did not go well but they had ZERO credibility to lose by playing Jacoby, everyone expected 4 wins max.

WTF... saying words randomly? What does that even mean?

Maye was a mess at three practices I attended earlier in camp, he was a mess enough for reporters to write about him being a mess all offseason. He was a mess enough in his final preseason game, reporters were so pleased with his improved operation of the huddle and offense that's when many of them started calling for Maye to start. This all wasn't a figment of my imagination.

Stroud was 22 last season, a year older than Maye. He also came from Ohio State and unlike Maye actually received some snaps under center in a pro style offense... Maye played in shotgun his entire college career. These are true statements, I'm sorry if the truth is uncomfortable for you or doesn't provide your impatient self with the outcome you desire.

Maye is a better passer, has a much brighter future. The Pats beat the Bengals yesterday in a nip/tuck game because they played mostly error free football. Take a breath, show some patience.

 

[KCSVEN]

WTF... saying words randomly? What does that even mean?

Maye was a mess at three practices I attended earlier in camp, he was a mess enough for reporters to write about him being a mess all offseason. He was a mess enough in his final preseason game, reporters were so pleased with his improved operation of the huddle and offense that's when many of them started calling for Maye to start. This all wasn't a figment of my imagination.

Stroud was 22 last season, a year older than Maye. He also came from Ohio State and unlike Maye actually received some snaps under center in a pro style offense... Maye played in shotgun his entire college career. These are true statements, I'm sorry if the truth is uncomfortable for you or doesn't provide your impatient self with the outcome you desire.

Maye is a better passer, has a much brighter future. The Pats beat the Bengals yesterday in a nip/tuck game because they played mostly error free football. Take a breath, show some patience.

Maye is 22 NOW, Stroud is 22 NOW. Why am I arguing with someone proven wrong OVER and OVER again and can't get simple facts right.
You have no clue how to judge QB play, your points are meaningless and have nothing to do with Maye over Brissett. You really think being under center is some great mystery that requires months of sitting, but then again you think Stroud was older than Maye.
FYI, world is not flat.

 

[KCSVEN]

Let's be a little positive Bro we all know Maye is the better QB but we are 1-0 with Biscuit let's ride the wave until it fizzles out.

Except Jacoby was not good, so he already fizzled out. You got away with 1, doesn't change the future odds.

 

[PatsFan2]

Except Jacoby was not good, so he already fizzled out. You got away with 1, doesn't change the future odds.

I thought the play calling was way too conservative from AVP: Pop Douglas 2 catches 12 yards was very disturbing. That Offense won't fly against a Team with Two Good WR's muchless Three. We definitely caught the Bengals at a good time for us bad time for them. Our next opponent Geno Smith is a Brissett on Steroids with weapons to boot we have to be more balanced.

 

[Wozzy]

Maye is 22 NOW, Stroud is 22 NOW. Why am I arguing with someone proven wrong OVER and OVER again and can't get simple facts right.
You have no clue how to judge QB play, your points are meaningless and have nothing to do with Maye over Brissett. You really think being under center is some great mystery that requires months of sitting, but then again you think Stroud was older than Maye.
FYI, world is not flat.

Yeah, Maye just turned 22 a week ago.

It also doesn't change how Maye never played under center at North Carolina, or how many times he fumbled the snap this preseason because it was new to him.

Or how many times the coaches stopped a play dead before the ball was even snapped in practice because Maye allowed two of his weapons to go in motion at the same time, or failed to get the play off before the stopwatch replicating the time clock clicked to zero... which in real games would be penalties.

If you can't do it in practice, you certainly can't do it in a game. Mayo spoke to this specifically when he said Maye had to speed up his pre-snap operation, he had to get faster at it.

Maye is closer now than when he was drafted, but he's still not a better game day option than Brissett... even if he's already a better passer. This isn't Madden football or fantasy... it's real world NFL football.

 

[ahmed]

Look at all the rookies that **** the bed yesterday. They will continue to do that while the pressure builds on them to perform while they fumble around as they learn.

I believe a QB will turn out good eventually if they are good regardless of that stuff. But it helps when you are set up for success and that includes not being put out there when not ready.

I am ok with a .500 record with Jacoby this year while team and Maye continue to improve. Improve OL and weapons in the offseason, give him a full offseason with the 1s and let him sink or swim next year.

 

[pats99]

100% agree. You can easily see his physical limitations but where he differs from Maye right now is the ability to process what's in front of him. Maye has all the phyical tools but the difference between a rookie and a 8 or 9 year vet is night and day in terms of how they see the field and process information.

You look at CJ Stroud and his rookie season and you think oh well why can't this rookie qb do the same.

I think if they can get serviceable QB play from Brissett, you ride him as long as possible. Until he gets hurt or he absolutely sucks. Giving Maye time to really get his feet under him, get reps in practice, get his weak areas coached up not in a do or die situation. That's where you really give the rookie the best chance to succeed

For sure, after the win on sunday and the o-line, and Brisset played well enough, i was like "Yes, one more game before we have to throw in Maye prematurely"

 

[BelizePats]

Really? You would have played Jacoby over Stroud last year? Tyrod Taylor over Herbert?
Maye played yesterday Pats probably put up 28 points. Maye sees the field and processes post snap WAY better than Jacoby. Jacoby is supposed to process better before the snap. Though it mostly did not seem like it yesterday.

Jacoby missed the read on the blitz right up the middle, he threw a rookie mistake off back foot should have been picked in the end zone pass. Have not seen the all-22 and he did some good things, but he made several rookie mistakes that people are afraid Maye would make and then also did not make plays that were there that Maye would make.

Then please explain to me why Maye didn't start? Was it because Mayo only wanted to win by six instead of 18?

 

[Nunchucks]

I thought the play calling was way too conservative from AVP: Pop Douglas 2 catches 12 yards was very disturbing. That Offense won't fly against a Team with Two Good WR's muchless Three. We definitely caught the Bengals at a good time for us bad time for them. Our next opponent Geno Smith is a Brissett on Steroids with weapons to boot we have to be more balanced.

They played that way on purpose and it worked. If they have to pass more they will. Brisset is a slow processor, inaccurate, and slow to throw the ball. He is not great at seeing the field. Add to that the jailbreak pass rushers and it's tough to get the ball out to open guys.

Maye will be a breath of fresh air, when he is ready.

 

[PatsFan2]

They played that way on purpose and it worked. If they have to pass more they will. Brisset is a slow processor, inaccurate, and slow to throw the ball. He is not great at seeing the field. Add to that the jailbreak pass rushers and it's tough to get the ball out to open guys.

Maye will be a breath of fresh air, when he is ready.

At least one Problem will be solved on Offense next Sunday Chukwuma Okorafor will be among the Inactives or Released! No need to carry that Deadwood as a Backup useless.