Would you trade 2025 1st for Lamb?

[TheRainMaker]

I disagree. The Cowboys are already up against the cap, and they aren’t going to be able to pay all 3 the big money deals it will take to keep them.

And the question is whether you would do it if it’s possible?

To answer your question, I wouldn't want to. Only Justin Jefferson is a guy I'd unload a 1st for if the team was ready to contend. Basically, a 2007 situation.

I think the Cowboys are going to move on from Prescott after this year unless the Cowboys go deep in the playoffs. I doubt they will trade away Lamb. There is a better shot they would trade Prescott than Lamb.

I thought Jerry would've moved on from him after his injury before his 1st extension. I think Dak's stats and team record would have to drop off significantly at this point for Jerry to move on from.

I will say that Prescott has the Aaron Rodgers/Packers disease. What I mean by that is the media foolishly buys into them beating up on dumpster fire teams rather than seeing how the Packers/Cowboys teams fared against the better teams. For some reason, the media thought the Cowboys roster is unworldly the last few seasons when they don't even compare to the Parcells’ Cowboys and early Phillips’ Cowboys rosters. They have holes all over the place and don't stand a chance against the 49ers.

 

[Brotherblues]

If I'm the 2019 Pats yes.

If I'm the 2024 Pats no.

 

[Joey007]

I’m at a point where I’d like to see what Douglas and our rookie WR’s can be this year.

What if one of those three winds up having WR1 potential? Look at how that paid off for Houston waiting for Nico Collins to have a competent QB throwing to him. Now they have a WR1 on the cheap this year and were able to bring in Diggs in the short term.

If you come out of this year and aren’t seeing that upside from the guys on this roster, then pull the trigger next offseason.

 

[Real fan 02]

If I'm the 2019 Pats yes.

If I'm the 2024 Pats no.

The 2019 patriots were on the decline,
2024 patriots have drafted the QB of the future added some pieces offensively and have a ready-made championship level defense. I'd say if it makes sense do it!

 

[Ross12]

I think there are a number of good arguments against it, but he’s also a proven All Pro WR just coming into his prime. I like the Polk and Baker picks, as well as Osbourne, so I think they could have the making of a good WR corps, but Lamb could make it great, and when you look at how the additions of Chase, Hill, and Diggs accelerated the development of Burrows, Tua, and Allen it’s attempting move imo.

From a standpoint of looking at the roster through a 3 year lens -

- The WRs would pretty much be set from top to bottom for the entire next 3 years
- QB obviously is set
- Guards should be good with as many guys as they have
- RT is set; LT is still a potential gap, depending on how Wallace does
- Center is good for 2 years but guessing Andrews will retire soon so a successor is needed
- TE1 is set for 3 years with Hunter Henry, and maybe Bell behind him, though not set in stone; can continue to take flyers there
- RB is slightly in flux with Stevenson’s impending free agency; Gibson has a multi year deal

While the loss of a first would be tough, it also puts you in a spot where you are basically set on offense for the next several years at almost every position. The only spots where you may need to invest with priority next year would be LT, TE2 and RB, and to a lesser extent C, although all of those may take care of themselves if guys already on the roster take a step up and establish themselves. Outside of LT, the other positions are typically cheaper in free agency and also not drafted highly (TEs, RBs and Cs rarely go in the first at all).

So I would be comfortable sending a 2025 1st for Lamb and paying him a multi year extension.

 

[slash83]

No, not giving a top top maybe top 5 pick for him.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

Maye might not even be better than Mac! I just don't see where anyone thinks he is a top flight QB. He played in an awful conference against inferior competition and still wasn't that good! Frankly I wouldn't be shocked if Milton beats him out!

This kid had a AWFUL OLine last year. I mean jail breaks on him constantly. Very rarely did he have a clean pocket
He had 1 WR that got drafted in the 4th round. Most could not get much seperation.

The year before when he had talent around him he lit up the league. Good OLine . ACC Player of the year
Yes the ACC is not the SEC. If you are going to use the awful conference and competition.
Then give Maye SEC caliber teammates that he can work with. See what he can do with them

He is not Mac as far as intangibles. You cannot teach his Height, weight, arm strength and mental toughness.
He may bust. Who knows. Just can’t use the inferior competition theory without saying OK let’s put him in the SEC with superior teammates. Because I feel Maye carried that team on his back last year. They stunk talent wise.

 

[Wozzy]

This kid had a AWFUL OLine last year. I mean jail breaks on him constantly. Very rarely did he have a clean pocket
He had 1 WR that got drafted in the 4th round. Most could not get much seperation.

The year before when he had talent around him he lit up the league. Good OLine . ACC Player of the year
Yes the ACC is not the SEC. If you are going to use the awful conference and competition.
Then give Maye SEC caliber teammates that he can work with. See what he can do with them

He is not Mac as far as intangibles. You cannot teach his Height, weight, arm strength and mental toughness.
He may bust. Who knows. Just can’t use the inferior competition theory without saying OK let’s put him in the SEC with superior teammates. Because I feel Maye carried that team on his back last year. They stunk talent wise.

Agree here, Maye was on a dog meat team in college and carried them on his back.

Mac also struggled to throw the ball 50 yards, we see video of Maye casually throwing it 80 yards. Mac was built like a dough boy, Maye is built like Tarzan... apples/oranges.

 

[Wozzy]

And as far as this trade goes...

You either use that first round pick on a stud WR, or you wait until Lamb is a free agent... those are your options unless Dallas is willing to trade him for a 6th or 7th rounder.

The Chiefs are back-to-back champions because they traded a handful of firsts instead of making Tyreek the highest paid weapon the NFL. The Dolphins won't go any further than they already have because they traded a bunch of firsts they could have used to build up their entire roster.

You don't trade valuable draft capital for a player only to then pay him a top of the market deal... because you've paid twice for the same player.

It's bad business...

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

Agree here, Maye was on a dog meat team in college and carried them on his back.

Mac also struggled to throw the ball 50 yards, we see video of Maye casually throwing it 80 yards. Mac was built like a dough boy, Maye is built like Tarzan... apples/oranges.

Agree
Plus the mental toughness. Mac cried and sulked. Could not run and had horrible pocket presence. Noodle arm to say the least

 

[Sfpat]

I'd trade a 2nd for Lamb

 

[stinkypete]

No, for a few reasons...

We just dropped a top 40 pick into the position, and added another high ceiling prospect. A "draft and develop" philosophy dictates you give the kids a chance before you go spending big.

The uncertainty at LT makes our likely top 10 pick that much more valuable. We need to hold it in case Wallace does not work out.

2025 promises to be a big FA class at the position. Higgins and Ayiuk will likely be available for less.

Speaking of free agents, Lamb and Jefferson are going to engage in a staredown to see who signs the first market setting deal so the other can exceed it. Signing a WR to a market setting deal is bad business

 

[ahmed]

To me, a bad team (what we were last year) trading next year's 1st is as close to a cardinal sin as there is in the NFL.

For all you know, it could turn out to be the 1st overall pick.

 

[DaBruinz]

As I said to Ken I doubt the Cowboys would trade Lamb right now, because Jerrah wants a trophy. But I do think he will move Lamb after the season because I don’t believe they can pay all 3, and I think he will find it harder to replace Prescott or Parsons than Lamb.

So, you think that the Cowboys will Franchise Lamb and move him when they don't have to?

 

[Wozzy]

Agree
Plus the mental toughness. Mac cried and sulked. Could not run and had horrible pocket presence. Noodle arm to say the least

This ^ most of all

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

I would see how this years draft pans out. If one of the LT options from this offseason pan out id be happy to go all in for a wr. Unless its a top 5 pick again, then id maybe look at trading it for more picks.

A 1st rounder seems like alot but its still just one player. At the absolute best case scenario (which the odds for this happening are quite low), you would get a player similar to lamb on a rookie deal. So really the only thing you’re losing by doing the trade would be the cash, but we have tons of cash. You can easily pay lamb, resign your key defenders, and hope to draft a couple more decent players round 2 onwards. If you pass on this deal to keep the 1st, theres a much better chance that player is only a fraction of what lamb gives you or a total bust.

 

[JohnJH]

They already have a stud at RT, and they just paid him.

Either Wallace starts at left tackle or barring injury is relegated to the bench.

Onwenu could be best used at RG with the understanding (hence the contract) that he could start at RT, but move back inside or move back outside if the situation deems it necessary. Wallace could be a much better RT than Onwenu. We can't emphatically say at this point that Onwenu is always going to be the best option in the future at RT. Even those that like him at RT have said that he has limitations there, especially in a zone blocking scheme (which if they utilize that scheme even on occasion, will give the offense greater flexibility depending on the personnel that they have now and acquire in the future).

 

[Huckleberry1]

And as far as this trade goes...

You either use that first round pick on a stud WR, or you wait until Lamb is a free agent... those are your options unless Dallas is willing to trade him for a 6th or 7th rounder.

The Chiefs are back-to-back champions because they traded a handful of firsts instead of making Tyreek the highest paid weapon the NFL. The Dolphins won't go any further than they already have because they traded a bunch of firsts they could have used to build up their entire roster.

You don't trade valuable draft capital for a player only to then pay him a top of the market deal... because you've paid twice for the same player.

It's bad business...

On the other hand Burrows, Allen, and Tua all become much better when they got star receivers.

 

[Wozzy]

On the other hand Burrows, Allen, and Tua all become much better when they got star receivers.

QB's make receivers, not the other way around. When the ball starts traveling in the other direction, let me know.

 

[Real fan 02]

On the other hand Burrows, Allen, and Tua all become much better when they got star receivers.

Yep. Tua is in line for a big pay day due to hill and Waddle.