PostGame Thread OFFICIAL 2023 Post Game Thread: Week 16 - NE @ DEN

[NFL Mystique]

I wouldn’t take Williams in the 7th round.
They have 100 mill in cap space Those qbs are as likely to be busts and successes.
Winning is a culture. Going into next year having swept the bills and jets and winning 4 of 5 (on the heels of 3 games you would have won with anything but horrendous QB play) means a hell of a lot more than a few draft slots.

You can't possibly believe momentum will carry over 8 months later?

 

[festy1986]

The Chiefs smoked the entire Patriots team. QB alone isn’t enough to win, if he doesn’t have sufficient talent around him.

what we just saw is Zappe + a very flawed Patriots roster > Russ Wilson + a playoff contending Broncos roster.

Zappe, the same guy who responded to being cut by telling his college coach “I’m going to start for the Patriots” and then backed it up.

I can't help anyone who isn't willing to look at Zappe within the context of the situation.

He's not the guy.

Today says way more about the broncos than it does the Patriots.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Bears aren't passing on Williams. Why would AZ pass on MHJ and trade that pick? WSH desperately needs a QB. They would take Maye/Daniels. Tennesse would take whoever Wsh didn't.

Titans likely aren't winning again. And would have the schedule advantage over NE at season's end. Assuming both end with 5 wins.

Where does NE get their QB now?

Gonna have to sell me on why Tennessee will draft a QB after drafting Levis pretty high last year. They should be drafting OL or an offensive weapon to build around him. He’s shown some promising flashes this year. Doesn’t feel like a Josh Rosen Kyler Murray situation to me.

 

[slash83]

I understand a team can’t come out and purposely try to lose, but dropping from 2 to 4 kinda sucks.

 

[festy1986]

You can't possibly believe momentum will carry over 8 months later?

It's a ridiculous statement. The Patriots have already finished with seven and eight and nine wins over the last four seasons and it hasn't carried over or meant ****.

Some of these people are so out to lunch that it's not even worth debating.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Gonna have to sell me on why Tennessee will draft a QB after drafting Levis pretty high last year. They should be drafting OL or an offensive weapon to build around him. He’s shown some promising flashes this year. Doesn’t feel like a Josh Rosen Kyler Murray situation to me.

Forgot about him.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Thought sure he'd miss.

Didn't miss and hit it from the equivalent of 60+ yards. Good for him. Fans love to criticize rookies, I have never understood that.

 

[upstater1]

Taking a first round QB is so risky. If you get Mahomes, great. But so many are not. And if you miss, it kills your team for 3-5 years.

Now look at taking at 2nd through 7th QB. It's like panning for gold. You can count the successful ones on one hand. Purdy, Dak, Hurts, how far are we going back?

 

[n1997y]

I didn’t realize the box score where Barmore had 3 sacks.

Barmore was balling. I was stuck listening to Sirius XM radio in the car, and the Denver broadcast team was tremendously impressed by his play. Not just sacks, stuffed several running plays, forced a fumble recovered by Wilson on a strip sack. He‘s a keeper.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Absolute worst case Pats pick from #10. Where was Mahomes picked from again?

Only if u can get a Nix or Penix rd 3 or later. Huge gap there in talent between top three guys and the rest.

 

[NFL Mystique]

It's a ridiculous statement. The Patriots have already finished with seven and eight and nine wins over the last four seasons and it hasn't carried over or meant ****.

Some of these people are so out to lunch that it's not even worth debating.

I can't believe that statement.

On another note, you have to wonder if Bill is returning as GM/HC now.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

It's a ridiculous statement. The Patriots have already finished with seven and eight and nine wins over the last four seasons and it hasn't carried over or meant ****.

Some of these people are so out to lunch that it's not even worth debating.

That is true. You are so completely in touch that you should help us know how we should feel. Please tell us how we should think and feel.

 

[n1997y]

Like the announcers said. We are going down but we are going to take everybody with us. Steelers/Broncos, screw you.

Don’t slight the Bills by leaving them out!

 

[festy1986]

That is true. You are so completely in touch that you should help us know how we should feel. Please tell us how we should think and feel.

Boring. If you're not gonna bring anything else to the table the 5 other people who agree with already are just stay out of it and let me tell them how wrong they are. You can live vicariously through that.

I can't believe that statement.

On another note, you have to wonder if Bill is returning as GM/HC now.

Bill should be fired.

If Kraft has any balls he'll do it.

Time to see how much tolerance he has for ********.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Only if u can get a Nix or Penix rd 3 or later. Huge gap there in talent between top three guys and the rest.

And many were surprised when the Bears reached for Trubisky at the two slot. Analysts called it out at the time.

Mahomes was seen as a boom or bust prospect. I think that may have scared a few GM's. I don't see a situation like that happening this season.

Unlikely a Daniels type guy falls to 10

 

[n1997y]

We absolutely should trade down in round 1. Every team who did wins big on the deal
I’m curious how we lost 5 spots when we currently are 3 or 4 depending upon the breakers.

Winning out. All the tankers are convinced we will win out and it’s breaking their hearts.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Barmore was balling. I was stuck listening to Sirius XM radio in the car, and the Denver broadcast team was tremendously impressed by his play. Not just sacks, stuffed several running plays, forced a fumble recovered by Wilson on a strip sack. He‘s a keeper.

He really was special tonight. Made himself a lot of $$

 

[festy1986]

Winning out. All the tankers are convinced we will win out and it’s breaking their hearts.

They already won their way out of the QB situation.

Meanwhile, I'm sure you'll be first in line to tell me how Fields only needs legitimate coaching and he's a worthy trade candidate.

Or worse. You're willing to give zappe and Mac another go with "real" offensive help.

Might as well trade back as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Ross12]

And many were surprised when the Bears reached for Trubisky at the two slot. Analysts called it out at the time.

Mahomes was seen as a boom or bust prospect. I think that may have scared a few GM's. I don't see a situation like that happening this season.

Unlikely a Daniels type guy falls to 10

Daniels is the type of guy who would’ve fallen to around 10 a few years ago but not these days.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Only if u can get a Nix or Penix rd 3 or later. Huge gap there in talent between top three guys and the rest.

The same thing was said when Trubisky was at #2 in the 2017 draft, and when Darnold was #2 in the 2018 draft, and when San Fran traded up to #3 for Lance in the 2021 draft. "Huge gap" is the same projection over and over. Some people have no shame and regurgitate the same message year after year even though history tells a different story. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.