Is Belichick still a great coach or did Belichick “ruin” Mac Jones?

[pctronics0072]

Hate to break it to you @Rob0729 you are the only one that looks stupid in this for your take that Brady was a game manager in his early career and Bill the QB whisperer is why TB12 is the GOAT

 

[PATS16N0]

Rob, I understand now why other fan bases call us Patsies. Your crying, whining, white knighting and victimhood posting is probably the most pathetic thing I’ve ever seen on an Internet forum. Why don’t you guys all get together, sit in a circle, and whoever is holding the pink fluffy pillow is the one whose turn it is to talk and explain how our posts upset them and made them cry.

****ing absolutely pathetic.

Maybe this thread should be deleted before a Steeler fans or Jet fan sees because I’m not going to have any defense or even know WTF to say.

 

[Rob0729]

Hate to break it to you @Rob0729 you are the only one that looks stupid in this for your take that Brady was a game manager in his early career and Bill the QB whisperer is why TB12 is the GOAT

I never said Belichick is the reason Brady is the GOAT. Never. Not once. I said he helped to develop Brady. Brady said that himself.

 

[Rob0729]

Rob, I understand now why other fan bases call us Patsies. You’re crying, whining, white knighting and victimhood posting is probably the most pathetic thing I’ve ever seen on an Internet forum. Why don’t you guys all get together, sit in a circle, and whoever is holding the pink fluffy pillow is the one whose turn it is to talk and explain how our posts upset them and made them cry.

****ing absolutely pathetic.

Maybe this thread should be deleted before a Steeler fans or Jet fan sees because I’m not going to have any defense or even know WTF to say.

You are a grown man acting like a 12 year old bully trying to pick on someone you don’t like in the school cafeteria and you are saying someone else is the most pathetic thing on an Internet forum? Take a look in the mirror.

 

[PATS16N0]

You are a grown man acting like a 12 year old bully trying to pick on someone you don’t like in the school cafeteria and you are saying someone else is the most pathetic thing on an Internet forum? Take a look in the mirror.

Are you being bullied, Rob?

 

[Rob0729]

Are you being bullied, Rob?

I said “trying”. You are trying to bully me. Unsuccessfully.

My guess you are the one who was bullied as a kid.

 

[PATS16N0]

Is Steve gonna’ make it?

 

[PATS16N0]

I actually thought this was ******** until you told me about your private conversations.

Study: Straight men cuddle with other men. A lot.

If it's right, a surprising amount of straight men like to cuddle together.

www.vox.com

 

[venecol]

I’m trying to understand this because I keep seeing this seemingly contradictory narrative reposted by people I suspect are just coping with having been wrong about Mac Jones, who also lavish Belichick with immense praise for his present and future as a Head Coach in the NFL (even as a Patriot Head Coach in the NFL).



I find it difficult to believe, and understand, that both of these things can be true. Aside from the fact I think Mac Jones sucks, does suck, has always sucked, and will always suck, if I was wrong and he had some ceiling as an average, middle of the road, hopelessly mediocre quarterback, was Belichick not even able to bring even *that* out of him? It seems holding the “Belichick is still great” and the “Mac Jones was broken” opinions simultaneously doesn’t make any sense.

It matters because “we’re” apparently deciding whether or not we should keep Belichick going into the future. Yet, if he wasn’t even able to bring Mac Jones’ mediocrity out of him, and instead broke him to worst-quarterback-in-the-league status, that’s very obviously a huge red-flag.

Help me understand, fam. Which one is it?
Can Belichick not get the mediocre potential out of a potentially mediocre quarterback or is he still Darth Belichick, great coach with great winning potential wherever he goes where some talent is available to him?

This has to be wrong. Belichick is a QB Whisperer. I got it from a reliable source.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Sucks for Steve that he was having a bad day on here, and maybe he wasn’t happy with my tone, so he blew off some steam, but then Rob, desperate to win an argument, dumped out the details of his private exchange like a used tray of cat litter across a white rug.

I’ve known Steve for years and he doesn’t deserve to be done like that.

 

[PATS16N0]

Sucks for Steve that he was having a bad day on here, and maybe he wasn’t happy with my tone, so he blew off some steam, but then Rob, desperate to win an argument, dumped out the details of his private exchange like a used tray of cat litter across a white rug.

I’ve known Steve for years and he doesn’t deserve to be done like that.

Rob throwing people under the bus to save face and white knight for sympathy after getting rekt all day.

 

[Jlaff]

Sucks for Steve that he was having a bad day on here, and maybe he wasn’t happy with my tone, so he blew off some steam, but then Rob, desperate to win an argument, dumped out the details of his private exchange like a used tray of cat litter across a white rug.

I’ve known Steve for years and he doesn’t deserve to be done like that.

That's a good point. It shows weak character to spill things like that just because you think it will help you in an argument.

 

[Jlaff]

Maybe I should PM Rob something like "I know you're gay" and then he'll tell everyone.

"Jlaff knows I'm gay" - Rob

 

[venecol]

Anyone remember in 2021 when the Patriots had the 2nd ranked defense and 6th ranked offense, and the 3rd best point differential in the NFL, and made the playoffs and then melted down allowing seven consecutive touchdowns?

Or how about the next season when they were 8-8 and needed a win to get into the playoffs, but they allowed two kickoff return touchdowns to lose?

Yeah it’s never Bill’s fault though…just wait and see when he gets a decent team, or something.

Why do you always have to be so cynical? Just look at the past. Belichick took a raw, no-talent rookie QB like Tom Brady, surrounded him with crap and willed him with his own greatness as a QB Whisperer to perform enough for them to win [thank you defense, take a bow].

Bill drafts a 1st Round QB, who was called "the most NFL ready QB in the draft," with 10x the talent of skinny Brady and a product of his buddy Nick Saban, and what does he do? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. He used the same exact formula as 22 years prior. Bill surrounded Mac with crap and willed his own greatness as a QB Whisperer into Mac to perform enough for them to win [thank you defense, take a bow]. No wait. I mean. It didn't work out OK? **** happens. It's all Mac's fault for not taking in his QB Whisperer greatness. It worked once a long, long, long time ago, so that means he still has it. Yea, **** Saban.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Why do you always have to be so cynical? Just look at the past. Belichick took a raw, no-talent rookie QB like Tom Brady, surrounded him with crap and willed him with his own greatness as a QB Whisperer to perform enough for them to win [thank you defense, take a bow].

Bill drafts a 1st Round QB, who was called "the most NFL ready QB in the draft," with 10x the talent of skinny Brady and a product of his buddy Nick Saban, and what does he do? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. He used the same exact formula as 22 years prior. Bill surrounded Mac with crap and willed his own greatness as a QB Whisperer into Mac to perform enough for them to win [thank you defense, take a bow]. No wait. I mean. It didn't work out OK? **** happens. It's all Mac's fault for not taking in his QB Whisperer greatness. It worked once a long, long, long time ago, so that means he still has it. Yea, **** Saban.

2001

 

[PATS16N0]

Here lies Rob.

He entered a thread he claimed was designed to make him look stupid, then called Tom Brady a game manager in it.

The destruction was so absolute much of it had to be muted.

RIP.

The End.

 

[Immortan Joe]

Which one of them do you think lives in their mom's basement?

 

[venecol]

Too many fans think that the coaches are more important than they are. Teams win all the time with average or even less than average HCs but never without top players on one or both sides of the ball. It's been that way from the beginning. I think the game has shifted more to offense now and that just isn't Bill's cup of tea.

Come on, a lot of the posters on this board assured us that BoB was good for 3 more wins.

 

[Jlaff]

Which one of them do you think lives in their mom's basement?

That's actually literally Rob. Someone posted links to old threads in another thread where Kontradiction was making fun of Rob for admitting he still lived with his parents. Although I was joking that he sleeps in his childhood room.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Imagine seeing the 2001 Patriots defense sandwiched by the 2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs defenses and concluding that that it was super powered and required only a mistake free peon to win.