Mac Jones Through 2 Games (2021 vs 2022 vs 2023) By QTR and Redzone Totals

[sb1]

Through 3 games
2021: 67.5 comp %, 737 yards, 2 TD, 3 INT, 6 sacks, 6.14 YPA, 79.1 rating
2022: 66.0 comp %, 786 yards, 2 TD, 5 INT, 5 sacks, 8.10 YPA, 76.2 rating
2023: 64.8 comp %, 748 yards, 5 TD, 2 INT, 6 sacks, 5.8 YPA, 85.0 rating

Glad his TD/INT isn’t underwater after 3 games for the first time but 5.8 YPA is very mid. We will know when the Patriots have their guy at QB and he will be a lot better than this. If it’s Mac then that applies to him too.

 

[ausbacker]

Justin Fields is gonna just ignore his coaches and play his game!

5/13 for 39 yards and an INT, no TDs. 4 rushes for 25 yards.

Yep, HIS game!

His game he's losing 41-0.

Trevor Lawrence ain't exactly lighting this season up either.

 

[Toofy]

Mac is playing like a top 10 QB so far with the worst offensive line.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Mac is playing like a top 10 QB so far with the worst offensive line.

Wut?

 

[BennyBledsoe]

Trevor Lawrence ain't exactly lighting this season up either.

...and? *confused*

 

[ausbacker]

...and? *confused*

The four taken and touted before Mac, are (all) arguably, performing below his level this season.

 

[RIpats88]

Through 3 games
2021: 67.5 comp %, 737 yards, 2 TD, 3 INT, 6 sacks, 6.14 YPA, 79.1 rating
2022: 66.0 comp %, 786 yards, 2 TD, 5 INT, 5 sacks, 8.10 YPA, 76.2 rating
2023: 64.8 comp %, 748 yards, 5 TD, 2 INT, 6 sacks, 5.8 YPA, 85.0 rating

Glad his TD/INT isn’t underwater after 3 games for the first time but 5.8 YPA is very mid. We will know when the Patriots have their guy at QB and he will be a lot better than this. If it’s Mac then that applies to him too.

Think that's more a symptom of Mac having the lowest time to throw in the league because he's instantly under duress from his garbage OL

Just like how stevenson had 3.1 ypc and is averaging 2.9 on the season.

an OL that can't pass or run block is not a good combo.

 

[Triumph]

The four taken and touted before Mac, are (all) arguably, performing below his level this season.

Its not their fault.

OL, WRs, OC, RBs and TEs are to blame.

 

[borg]

3 games into the season.....

2022 Total points scored by offense......50.....record 1-2
2023 Total points scored by offense......50......record 1-2

 

[Pape]

Question for people who say Jones sucks because of his record and your record is one of the most important indicators for a QB.

Would you trade a high first rounder for Justin Herbert? Now remember he isn’t that good because he is only a .500 QB (25-26, 25-27 if you count the playoffs). Is a middle of the road QB like Herbert really worth a first round pick?

I would make that trade and give them Mac Jones as well as the draft pick.. It's a no brainier.

 

[Rob0729]

I would make that trade and give them Mac Jones as well as the draft pick.. It's a no brainier.

I would too. Easily trade Mac and the 2024 first round pick. I think with a real coach and a good defense like the Pats have, Herbert could make this team a legitimate Super Bowl contender. No knock to Mac, but Herbert is either elite or elite adjacent.

But if we are going to judge a QB on his record, Herbert is probably worth a conditional second rounder at best.

 

[Ian]

3 games into the season.....

2022 Total points scored by offense......50.....record 1-2
2023 Total points scored by offense......50......record 1-2

The point total is skewed slightly - they've played two games in the rain, which certainly isn't going to help with that. Although, the fact they ran the football better yesterday was a positive.

Definitely curious to see how things go in a dome in Dallas. I feel like that might see a bigger outing by Douglas. And hopefully, they'll get Jonathan Jones back this week in the secondary. The Cowboys might have looked terrible yesterday, but they had some pretty good success against the Jets' defense, so I'm sure New England will need all hands on deck this week.

This one could sort of turn things. Get back to .500 and maybe split or win the next two, and they're in decent shape ahead of Buffalo and the rematch in Miami. If they can split those two (the Bills are at home), then it's Washington and Indianapolis ahead of the bye. Not an easy stretch, but the rest of the Conference hasn't been great so far, either. So they're still well in the mix.

 

[Ian]

I would make that trade and give them Mac Jones as well as the draft pick.. It's a no brainier.

I wouldn't give them a first. Probably a second and maybe a conditional pick behind that. Jones has enough value where a first would just be a little too much to give along with him.

 

[Pape]

I wouldn't give them a first. Probably a second and maybe a conditional pick behind that. Jones has enough value where a first would just be a little too much to give along with him.

You are right in saying you wouldn't give them a first, in a sense... I wouldn't give them A first, I'd give them two firsts

 

[Rob0729]

I wouldn't give them a first. Probably a second and maybe a conditional pick behind that. Jones has enough value where a first would just be a little too much to give along with him.

I'd give a first and a second straight up for Herbert. So a first and Mac is pretty comparable to that. I don't think you are getting a first for Mac Jones right now. You might get a conditional first, but that would be the ceiling. But even then I would say even two firsts might be worth it for Herbert.

 

[Ian]

I'd give a first and a second straight up for Herbert. So a first and Mac is pretty comparable to that. I don't think you are getting a first for Mac Jones right now. You might get a conditional first, but that would be the ceiling. But even then I would say even two firsts might be worth it for Herbert.

He was suggesting giving a first and Mac up for Herbert. I was just saying that's a bit too much. Mac's not worthless and in another system with more talent, he could end up being a better player. If that happened, I think people here would be annoyed with giving up that much and having the Chargers essentially fleece them. Especially if Herbert struggled here with the same cast.

 

[Ian]

You are right in saying you wouldn't give them a first, in a sense... I wouldn't give them A first, I'd give them two firsts

Two firsts and Mac? Man...that's a lot. Like I said, Mac's not worthless. And as I also just mentioned, I think if Mac thrived in that system and Herbert struggled with this cast, people would freak being down two first-round picks and not getting a significantly better performance.

 

[Pape]

Two firsts and Mac? Man...that's a lot. Like I said, Mac's not worthless. And as I also just mentioned, I think if Mac thrived in that system and Herbert struggled with this cast, people would freak being down two first-round picks and not getting a significantly better performance.

It's a risk I'd be willing to take. Ymmv.

Herbert is just better.

As much as people refuse to admit it by offering up every excuse, real or imagined, the modern incarnation of the NFL is a QB driven league. Herbert is better than Mac. In the end players play. If you can improve, you do it.

 

[Rob0729]

He was suggesting giving a first and Mac up for Herbert. I was just saying that's a bit too much. Mac's not worthless and in another system with more talent, he could end up being a better player. If that happened, I think people here would be annoyed with giving up that much and having the Chargers essentially fleece them. Especially if Herbert struggled here with the same cast.

It is always a gamble. But the value of Mac is low right now. Whether it is his fault or not, I don't see any team giving up a first rounder for him other than maybe the Raiders because teams are in the same boat we are where they have no idea what Mac's ceiling is.

I think Herbert would be better than Mac in this system. Not a swipe at Mac, but I think Herbert is more talent.

But I can see your point, that Mac might have more value and could actually be far better than we know now. But when you have a guy like Herbert, you take the risk.

I wouldn't do it for a Lamar Jackson or DeShaun Watson before we saw what he became and even the legal problems he had just because those guys have a potential short shelf life. Herbert could be playing at a high level into his 40s.

 

[Ian]

It's a risk I'd be willing to take. Ymmv.

Herbert is just better.

As much as people refuse to admit it by offering up every excuse, real or imagined, the modern incarnation of the NFL is a QB driven league. Herbert is better than Mac.

Herbert is certainly a better QB. My fear would be I don't know how much better he'd be with this current group, which would make giving up that much frustrating.