OT: Eagles Hire Matt Patricia

[RIpats88]

I wish Matt Patricia the best. He was not the fault of him having a job he should not have held.

I mean he couldlv'e also told bill that he knows nothing about offense and shouldn't have taken the job. But hes arrogant. so he probably thought he could do it. I mean this is the guy who basically took credit for Butlers superbowl play.

and also how did a thread about Matt patricia turn into another "mac bash fest"

 

[archstanton543]

Again, that's not what happened - Chandler's ridiculous arm length and strength didn't let Mac get close to him:


And literally no one around for miles had Jones even slowed him down:



And I was wrong about Trent Brown, only guy close was Onwenu.

This is such a weird thing that you still hold against the kid when Brady wouldn't have been able to stop Chandler Jones, either.

And if Mac did complete a pass, it would have been illegal anyways. The only play Mac would have had was to run 70 or so yards to score.

What they should have done was just take a knee and go to overtime. But Phat Matt chose not to and his players didn't trust him to win in OT because they wussed out in Green Bay and they took matters into their own hands. A classic case of players trying to do too much due to a lack of trust.

 

[Real fan 02]

Strange indeed.

I'm optimistic about the upcoming season, however we the fans are not fooled.. if we get back to Winning then it helps put things In perspective

 

[Brotherblues]

Wasn't this thread supposed to be about Patricia?

Iggles are probably just doing him a solid since he's the man responsible for the only title in franchise history. Local hero. They need to hang a banner with his face next to their championship banner. Also build his statue at the stadium entrance and another inside the cafeteria.

 

[archstanton543]

Wasn't this thread supposed to be about Patricia?

Iggles are probably just doing him a solid since he's the man responsible for the only title in franchise history. Local hero. They need to hang a banner with his face next to their championship banner. Also build his statue at the stadium entrance and another inside the cafeteria.

First time on PatsFans? Mission creep is de rigueur.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Do people still think Patricia was celebrating mid play when Meyers threw it back to Mac?

 

[archstanton543]

Do people still think Patricia was celebrating mid play when Meyers threw it back to Mac?

That's what it looks like.

When you're telling someone to stop or you're dismayed at something happening, you don't raise your arms above your head like he did.

 

[crawhammer]

This is such a weird thing that you still hold against the kid when Brady wouldn't have been able to stop Chandler Jones, either.

Had Brady still been there then Patricia wouldn't have and that stupid play wouldn't have been called or if it had then Brady would have shut it down for either a hail mary or a kneel down.

We also don't know that Brady or whichever other QB wouldn't have been able to stop Chandler in that situation. Chandler's not making any lateral movement there, he's going straight ahead, one-on-one with every starting QB in the league, I would say 50% are making a tackle there and 90% are at least offering up greater resistance than what we saw from Mac.

 

[TheRainMaker]

That's what it looks like.

When you're telling someone to stop or you're dismayed at something happening, you don't raise your arms above your head like he did.

But as you said in an earlier post, why would he be celebrating when Meyers was in the process of throwing back to Mac putting him dead to rights if he had caught it?

 

[archstanton543]

But as you said in an earlier post, why would he be celebrating when Meyers was in the process of throwing back to Mac putting him dead to rights if he had caught it?

No idea. You'll have to ask Matt.

 

[captain stone]

That would have been tough. The ball was already in Chandler's hands with Mac still several yards away. Mac could have dove - but Chandler might have just hurdled him. Either way, I guess my only point is that Jones shouldn't still be being blamed for that game. Not much else he could have done there.

Jones stuck out his arm, and Corky did the rest.

 

[catent]

What do you mean by arm strength? Being able to fit it tight spaces? Based on my previous analysis, Mac and Zappe have extremely similar ceilings as far as air yards are concerned (low 60yds), so to me that tells me they have similar arm strengths. Kindof reminds me of Brady early on for both. When Bledsoe came in during the Steelers AFC game and threw ropes (low trajectory throws for distance), I remember thinking oh yeah, that's what a cannon looks like.

I’d probably give Mac a slight (but not significant) advantage when it comes to air yards on deep heaves.

I trust Zappe a lot more with tight-window, middle-of-the-field, and sideline throws, though.

 

[1960Pats]

Yep. Some of his challenges have been self-inflicted (tantrums, going outside the org) but installing Jabba the Matt and Judge Dread as his coaches made a frustrating situation worse.

I still find it interesting they sent Hoyer packing for also having issues with the coaching last year.

It looked like Bill was being loyal to his coach in spite of the obvious problems.
That plus maybe Bill didn't want to admit his mistake.
With a little bit of my-way-or-the-highway sprinkled in.

All it took for Hoyer to be sent packing was him questioning a coach.

 

[Sicilian]

It looked like Bill was being loyal to his coach in spite of the obvious problems.
That plus maybe Bill didn't want to admit his mistake.
With a little bit of my-way-or-the-highway sprinkled in.

All it took for Hoyer to be sent packing was him questioning a coach.

I won't say those aren't factors, but let's also remember that Hoyer is 37, has lost his last like 13 starts, and is coming off a season with concussions. I bet they could have patched things up just fine, but they probably didn't feel his ability was worth the potential locker room division, and he could probably use a fresh start.

 

[1960Pats]

He didn't cower, he tried to go low, and Jones pushed him down with his ridiculously long arms. Not that I want to relive that play, but it was already in the archive on here:



And I showed a screenshot at the time, there was no one close enough to make a play (Henry was the only guy with even a hint of speed that was closest, and he was still significantly far away - the closest guys I think were Andrews and Trent Brown, neither of which are speedy guys ), even in the event he had been able to kind of slow him down.

Sort of weird that we're still blaming him for that play, literally no chance for him to do anything, not against a guy significantly bigger and stronger than he was, unfortunately. I agree with someone else that had Brady been involved, we wouldn't be ridiculing him and instead would have just been thankful he escaped without injury.

I remember taking kids out like that when I played football. I was surprised at how easily a player would go down with a well placed stiff arm. Done correctly it's highly effective even without the mismatch there.
One of Darelle Revis' favorite moves on defense was a quick stiff arm to the shoulder that would slow down or even stop a WR in his tracks.
Anyone picking on Jones for that play is clueless.

 

[1960Pats]

I won't say those aren't factors, but let's also remember that Hoyer is 37, has lost his last like 13 starts, and is coming off a season with concussions. I bet they could have patched things up just fine, but they probably didn't feel his ability was worth the potential locker room division, and he could probably use a fresh start.

Yeah, it's no big deal really. I never thought he had much left but we were led to believe that he had some value.

 

[1960Pats]

I mean he couldlv'e also told bill that he knows nothing about offense and shouldn't have taken the job. But hes arrogant. so he probably thought he could do it. I mean this is the guy who basically took credit for Butlers superbowl play.

and also how did a thread about Matt patricia turn into another "mac bash fest"

In my 60+ years of watching football there were always two people who took a lot of grief from fans, the quarterback and the head coach.

 

[Triumph]

Do people still think Patricia was celebrating mid play when Meyers threw it back to Mac?

Do people believe that Patricia called for throwing INTs?

They do unfortunately. So many times the WR or TE was open, but Corky waited too late. He has the timing of clock powered by a hamster wheel. Romo made reference to Corkys slow witted thinking in the Bills 2022 playoff game. IIRC, the play was a pass to Henry and Henry was open down the left sideline - Upon review, that is when Romo said throw it now ! - but no, Corky waited for the Bills DBs to move in and then threw it.

INT.

 

[Wozzy]

I can't believe we're rehashing the Meyer's lateral and wondering if Tom could have made a better tackle attempt?

Good grief...

 

[ErniesPinkStripes]

I remember taking kids out like that when I played football. I was surprised at how easily a player would go down with a well placed stiff arm. Done correctly it's highly effective even without the mismatch there.
One of Darelle Revis' favorite moves on defense was a quick stiff arm to the shoulder that would slow down or even stop a WR in his tracks.
Anyone picking on Jones for that play is clueless.

Personally, I've always blamed Stevenson for his decision which started that sequence of events.. Meyers decision wasn't any better.

It's a tie game. Situational football. My cousin's husband tried to excuse it as similar to a Hail Mary.. ok, if we were losing, but again, it's a tie game. Play for OT.

Zero blame on Mac IMO.