NFL GAME DAY DISCUSSION Official 2023 Free Agency Thread

[mike_usagisan]

Great to have Cody back. Thought it was no longer in the cards after Board.
At least watching Special Demons will be fun..

I'm still thinking that Bill is preparing for Matthew Slater to maybe not make it out of training camp (a la Bruschi).

 

[Real fan 02]

Wirhout a Long Term Deal i wouldn’t offer anything

The only way we trade for him is if we can give him a long term deal is my opinion

 

[Ross12]

Depending on who we have booting the ball on kickoffs, we may HAVE to have guys that are good at downfield coverage. Last year after Bailey went down and Folk had to take over KO, you could count the touchbacks on one hand.

I’m fairly confident that kickers and punters will be heavily prioritized in the draft and UDFA process.

 

[Ross12]

The only way we trade for him is if we can give him a long term deal is my opinion

You can pick up Jeudy’s 5th year option if you trade for him before May 1st, which is about $13M. So if you do that, you’re getting him for about 2 years/$15M total which is pretty cheap for top WR rates, albeit most of that is fully guaranteed. You can revisit a long term deal after the first year if you want to if he looks pretty good. I have a hard time envisioning Bill trading for Jeudy and giving him a huge deal immediately, he would want to see a little bit of evidence first. But maybe Mac and Saban will vouch for him and make him a little more comfortable.

 

[DaBruinz]

As usual your wrong again, you love to argue with people boy... lol he's 6'2 go look it up.. or will u make up your own information again...

Unfortunately for you, I'm not wrong. That is what Dugger measured during the combine. I guarantee you that my "sources" are better than any crap you're using. His draft profile from the NFL says 6'1, which is rounded up from 6' 7/8".

Kyle Dugger Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

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You have me confused with yourself. I'm the one who uses facts. I don't need to make s**t up. I leave that to waste's of flesh like you.

 

[DaBruinz]

Becuase of the optics, BB is a very intelligent man.. he knows full well the decisions he made directly impacted the offense. So I said that with the notion that how can he fire Cam for the STs performance and not fire judge who as the herald reported was more of a problem and disruption than Patricia was.
He was also the QBs coach.. just my theory..

That makes no F'in sense at all. Talk about making s**t up.
Judge was REMOVED as QB coach during last season because he couldn't say in his lane. Now, Judge is just an "Advisor". Firing / Not Firing Achord, who has had 3 seasons as the Primary STs coach, has zero to do with Judge still being on the team. Thinking that it does is beyond ridiculous.

 

[Real fan 02]

Unfortunately for you, I'm not wrong. That is what Dugger measured during the combine. I guarantee you that my "sources" are better than any crap you're using. His draft profile from the NFL says 6'1, which is rounded up from 6' 7/8".

Kyle Dugger Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

All Combine and Draft-Related Analysis, News, Video, and Biographical Information for Kyle Dugger

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You have me confused with yourself. I'm the one who uses facts. I don't need to make s**t up. I leave that to waste's of flesh like you.

Look prick , play nice.. maybe you need to find another hobby all u do is argue with people on here with your BS ass website information no one has ever heard of..

 

[Kasmir]

Look prick , play nice.. maybe you need to find another hobby all u do is argue with people on here with your BS ass website information no one has ever heard of..

Anyone who researches player stats online will run into the superb RAS site.

 

[Real fan 02]

Anyone who researches player stats online will run into the superb RAS site.

Yeah this guy clearly has issues.. he argues with everyone here.. people state thier opinions he argues that..

 

[Patsgofor4]

Look prick , play nice.. maybe you need to find another hobby all u do is argue with people on here with your BS ass website information no one has ever heard of..

Kyle Dugger Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

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Kyle Dugger - New England Patriots Safety - ESPN

View the profile of New England Patriots Safety Kyle Dugger on ESPN. Get the latest news, live stats and game highlights.

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https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/draft/draft-prospect-profile-s-kyle-dugger-lenoir-rhyne

Kyle Dugger - SS - Lenoir-Rhyne - 2020 Draft Scout/NCAA College Football

Kyle Dugger - SS - Lenoir-Rhyne - 2020 Draft Scout/NCAA College Football

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Kyle Dugger - Wikipedia

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Not sure why you chose to die on this 6’2” hill but Dugger is 6’1”, unless he had a 1 inch growth spurt at age 24. Also, RAS is now used frequently as an analytics tool for draftees. It’s a scoring system, not a BS ass website, and it’s very useful for giving combine numbers historical context.

 

[Fatmancryin]

You can pick up Jeudy’s 5th year option if you trade for him before May 1st, which is about $13M. So if you do that, you’re getting him for about 2 years/$15M total which is pretty cheap for top WR rates, albeit most of that is fully guaranteed. You can revisit a long term deal after the first year if you want to if he looks pretty good. I have a hard time envisioning Bill trading for Jeudy and giving him a huge deal immediately, he would want to see a little bit of evidence first. But maybe Mac and Saban will vouch for him and make him a little more comfortable.

I’m not sure I am willing to pay the price. I would rather see them go after Mecole Hardman, he’s coming off an injury but the cost would probably be low on a multi year deal.

 

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Kyle Dugger Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

All Combine and Draft-Related Analysis, News, Video, and Biographical Information for Kyle Dugger

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Kyle Dugger - New England Patriots Safety - ESPN

View the profile of New England Patriots Safety Kyle Dugger on ESPN. Get the latest news, live stats and game highlights.

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https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/draft/draft-prospect-profile-s-kyle-dugger-lenoir-rhyne

Kyle Dugger - SS - Lenoir-Rhyne - 2020 Draft Scout/NCAA College Football

Kyle Dugger - SS - Lenoir-Rhyne - 2020 Draft Scout/NCAA College Football

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Kyle Dugger - Wikipedia

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Not sure why you chose to die on this 6’2” hill but Dugger is 6’1”, unless he had a 1 inch growth spurt at age 24. Also, RAS is now used frequently as an analytics tool for draftees. It’s a scoring system, not a BS ass website, and it’s very useful for giving combine numbers historical context.

This whole argument is textbook patsfans.com thread derailment. Arguing over an inch.

************, even my wife, who often stresses the importance of every inch, thinks you guys need to stop being so precious

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

This whole argument is textbook patsfans.com thread derailment. Arguing over an inch.

************, even my wife, who often stresses the importance of every inch, thinks you guys need to stop being so precious

Teams lie about measurables all the time. Anyone remember how Pablo Sandoval was listed at 255 pounds?

 

[Patsgofor4]

This whole argument is textbook patsfans.com thread derailment. Arguing over an inch.

************, even my wife, who often stresses the importance of every inch, thinks you guys need to stop being so precious

Agree. I was trying to put the issue to rest, as a third party to the argument. A simple web search is all that was needed, as long as one doesn’t rely on the measurements on the official team website.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Teams lie about measurables all the time. Anyone remember how Pablo Sandoval was listed at 255 pounds?

He's only 5-10. Unless he can squat 500lbs and bench 8 plates 255 for that height is fat and he looked it.

 

[Real fan 02]

Offense, Defense, Special Teams.

A lot of games are decided by special teams.

Week 17 in Buffalo as you perfectly mentioned STs... on the flip side STs won us the game against jets too..

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

This whole argument is textbook patsfans.com thread derailment. Arguing over an inch.

************, even my wife, who often stresses the importance of every inch, thinks you guys need to stop being so precious

But I guess the issue here isn’t between 6‘1 and 6‘2

 

[Ring 6]

He's only 5-10. Unless he can squat 500lbs and bench 8 plates 255 for that height is fat and he looked it.

I think he meant 255 was a lie for being too low.

 

[Fatmancryin]

 

[crownontherocks]