Pre-Free Agency 2023

[203Pat]

I would take Fields over Mac in a heartbeat. He improved as a passer with absolutely no one on that offense and he is explosive as a runner. With a real coaching staff and some actual NFL players around him he would look significantly better.

 

[Real fan 02]

I would take Fields over Mac in a heartbeat. He improved as a passer with absolutely no one on that offense and he is explosive as a runner. With a real coaching staff and some actual NFL players around him he would look significantly better.

That brings me to my earlier mentioned point he was Mac jonesed last season.. traded away Allen Robinson his only true WR threat.. for nothing...

This offense is the (Brady ) offense, not set up for a QB like fields what Mac's strengths are is his mind, his accuracy, his ability to analyze get the ball out quickly and make good decisions.. I will actually take MAC with a good offensive staff and some added weapons.. do like
fields though he does make some exciting plays!!

 

[Real fan 02]

Yep seems like we have to go the dreaded route of the Draft I think we can really hit if we do our homework. that said I think the stars are aligned this time around with us bringing in guys from the Collège ranks like Bob and Klemm. Offensive Tackle and WR's aren't cheap in FA that's why it's nice to bred and groom your own really hoping they have a say in our Draft process on those positions respectively.

Yes totally agree!!! We actually since the collaborative effort as RK mentioned with the draft... since 2020 has actually been good!

The rookies this season really played well, Marcus Jones to me should be inserted on offense and ST.. he's 5"8 he'd be dynamic as a slot option.. his speed is so elite!

I absolutely think we have something brewing in the backfield with rham, strong and Kevin Harris.. I believe the team walks away from Damian Harris due to that..

If ty Montgomery can stay healthy and make the team again this season then we can be a team to deal with..

However your right with BOB involved with drafting also I'm more confident we can get some impact.. WRs

 

[TheRainMaker]

Let's give credit to @Real fan 02 for bring up this trade proposal of Jalen Ramey. Now Greg Bedard is on board and mentioned the Pats should trade for him as the Rams need to dump salary.

 

[Ross12]

Imagine if the Bears did trade Fields, they could take their preferred QB with the #1 overall pick and also have a haul of picks from their Fields trade, PLUS $90M in cap space (most in the league!)

 

[mike_usagisan]

Imagine if the Bears did trade Fields, they could take their preferred QB with the #1 overall pick and also have a haul of picks from their Fields trade, PLUS $90M in cap space (most in the league!)

Dunno. This feels like the Jets from two years ago and look how that turned out.

 

[Real fan 02]

Let's give credit to @Real fan 02 for bring up this trade proposal of Jalen Ramey. Now Greg Bedard is on board and mentioned the Pats should trade for him as the Rams need to dump salary.

Thanks alot @ the rain maker,
When I heard about the Rams needing to dump salary I had a feeling Ramsey and his contract would be mentioned..

Not to sound repetitive, but this is the move patriots NEED to make we have had no answer for Diggs whatsoever, still have to worry about hill/Waddle.. a guy like Ramsey takes this defense to the next level!!!

 

[Love The Drake]

I would take Fields over Mac in a heartbeat. He improved as a passer with absolutely no one on that offense and he is explosive as a runner. With a real coaching staff and some actual NFL players around him he would look significantly better.

I was devastated when chicago moved up in front of us.

 

[Love The Drake]

I think we will see what Obrein thinks of Mac based on free agency and the draft.

 

[Ross12]

Dunno. This feels like the Jets from two years ago and look how that turned out.

Yeah I have a hard time envisioning the Bears actually doing all of that, because they're the Bears (there's a reason they have that much cap space), but it's an interesting scenario to think about.

It may just be a smokescreen to drive up the price for a trade for #1 overall. "Well we might use the pick ourselves on a QB and trade our guy we already have, so you better convince us..."

 

[PatsFan2]

Thanks alot @ the rain maker,
When I heard about the Rams needing to dump salary I had a feeling Ramsey and his contract would be mentioned..

Not to sound repetitive, but this is the move patriots NEED to make we have had no answer for Diggs whatsoever, still have to worry about hill/Waddle.. a guy like Ramsey takes this defense to the next level!!!

We know how BB feels about Very Good CB's Judon and Uche will be happy with a shut down guy on the back end.

 

[Pape]

Imagine if the Bears did trade Fields, they could take their preferred QB with the #1 overall pick and also have a haul of picks from their Fields trade, PLUS $90M in cap space (most in the league!)

You think fields would earn the bears a haul of picks?

Im not sure they would even get a first right now

 

[Guts]

 

[Love The Drake]

Sign the beast back.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Thanks alot @ the rain maker,
When I heard about the Rams needing to dump salary I had a feeling Ramsey and his contract would be mentioned..

Not to sound repetitive, but this is the move patriots NEED to make we have had no answer for Diggs whatsoever, still have to worry about hill/Waddle.. a guy like Ramsey takes this defense to the next level!!!

How much of his salary are we absorbing if we trade for him ?

I think if we are not trading for a #1 wr and mostly just doing the moderate improvements offensively, we would need to make this defense dominant in order to compete. Getting a ramsay would be part of that, along with an inside lb who can do it all. Add those to what we have and this is a special unit.

Of course, whichever route we choose wed need to play better special teams as well to have an actual shot at anything.

 

[Real fan 02]

I think we will see what Obrein thinks of Mac based on free agency and the draft.

No Matter what, the team has to be all in on Mac, after entrusting BB to allow him to make the decision of " what's best for the team" supposedly season... it feels like ownership is more involved and wants to ensure everything is done to allow Mac to ascend.. that being said... they will surround him with more talent, he now has the coaching he should have had..

I'm sure Mac's hungry to show what he can do, the team needs Mac to be the QB they know he can be if..not it's back to the draft and years of mediocrity..

 

[Real fan 02]

How much of his salary are we absorbing if we trade for him ?

I think if we are not trading for a #1 wr and mostly just doing the moderate improvements offensively, we would need to make this defense dominant in order to compete. Getting a ramsay would be part of that, along with an inside lb who can do it all. Add those to what we have and this is a special unit.

Of course, whichever route we choose wed need to play better special teams as well to have an actual shot at anything.

I'm not too sure on how much of his salary we'd actually absorb, I'm sure we'd likely work that out with the rams.. they are the ones who seemingly need to dump salary so they should be willing to wheel and deal...

Your right though, we do need a #1 target for Mac, we have some decent talent already just need that game changer at WR. Now speaking of game changers Ramsey is just that.. 6"2 long, rangy, physical excellent against the run.. he's 28 still in his prime... him and as you mentioned an impact full, athletic sideline to sideline LB would be awesome for us..

Rams are wasting Ramsey, as thier defense doesn't allow him to be what he is a press man lockdown corner..

 

[sb1]

Hmmm....

Patriots are "sniffing around" Deebo Samuel

On Wednesday's Felger and Mazz, J-Stew's phone gave everyone its latest piece of information and it involves current San Francisco 49ers wide receiver, Deebo

985thesportshub.com

 

[PWRxWLF]

Hmmm....

Patriots are "sniffing around" Deebo Samuel

On Wednesday's Felger and Mazz, J-Stew's phone gave everyone its latest piece of information and it involves current San Francisco 49ers wide receiver, Deebo

985thesportshub.com

Maybe they’re asking around to see what the Niners saw that led them to draft him. So maddening. Imagine what we’d have to give up to actually trade for the guy. Think Tyreek was expensive? The draft picks. The amount of money! It would be circus level stupid around here for a long while. Now…maybe Shanny still wants a shot at Mac? How would you feel about that trade? Lance and Deebo for Mac and a 2nd?

 

[Ross12]

Hmmm....

Patriots are "sniffing around" Deebo Samuel

On Wednesday's Felger and Mazz, J-Stew's phone gave everyone its latest piece of information and it involves current San Francisco 49ers wide receiver, Deebo

985thesportshub.com

Niners take a $28M dead cap hit (and thus lose an additional $19M in cap space vs where they're at now) in 2023 by trading him. They only have around $8M in cap space right now. I can't imagine they'd deal him now. If they wait til after June, they can avoid the huge cap hit but only save a tiny bit of space.

Don't get me wrong... I'll take Deebo 100%... but find it hard to see how that deal comes about right now.