Who's your Mount Rushmore of Boston Sports?

[Bruins29]

I would think a female goalie would have some big advantages with flexibility, no?

Well when you have max flexibility there is not much more you can go. There was a chick who played goal who played in some exhibition games in the NHL. But that’s it

Chicks should just stay in the kitchen and let the boys play the real sports

 

[Brotherblues]

Cannot have a Mt Bostonmore without Bird. I don't care how it's done, you put him up there even if you need to add a fifth head and a 2nd guy in the same sport. That's Larry fn Bird.

 

[jimnance]

IMO Pedro is in the top 5 GOAT pitchers of the modern era.

He's either #1 or #2. There's Pedro and Koufax then everyone else. 2 most dominant starting pitchers ever.
A while back, don't remember exactly when, maybe 15 years ago, a panel of baseball historians,sportswriters and Bill James-type geeks determined that the 2 most dominant stretches of starting pitching over 3 consecutive seasons was
1. Pedro can't remember exact years but might even been his last year with Mtl and 1st 2 with Bos
2.Koufax 3 straight years in early- mid 60's
They narrowde down the top 50 starters alltime which included tge old timers like Cy young,Walter johnson,mathewson,paige,feller etc plus all tge modern-era
They were trying to determine every pitchers best 3 straight years and then who had the best.
I recall it wasn't close. Pedro and Koufax were head shoulders better than everyone.
Jives with what my eyes saw

 

[maust]

Well when you have max flexibility there is not much more you can go. There was a chick who played goal who played in some exhibition games in the NHL. But that’s it

Manon Rhéaume. She played in a couple of exhibition games for the Lightning including one against our hometown boys in 1993. Yep 30 friggin' years ago. Damn, time is a subtle thief

 

[yukon cornelius]

I appreciate Russell and Williams greatness and sacrifice. And Russell stands over everyone else as a team sport champion. But I cant agree putting Williams in a Tier over Brady. Cant do it.

Brady was that great in a league that was designed to prevent him from doing what he did and on top of it a league that cheated to insure he couldn't continue. Brady's 6 rings are => whatever Williams did on/off the field.

i just think williams & russell's greatness transcended their sport.......not only were they arguably the GOATs in their sport, they were GOAT-like humans away from their sport......(williams being the GOAT hitter.....baseball is a team sport that's really based on individual achievement, I don't think rings in baseball matter quite as much as in the other 3 main sports)

brady is the GOAT QB and a winner......but his greatness really stays within his sport for me

we're talking 1A and 1B here, splitting hairs.....just how i see it


to me Ted Williams might be one of the greatest persons of the last 100 years......period......not just athletes

 

[sb1]

Manon Rhéaume. She played in a couple of exhibition games for the Lightning including one against our hometown boys in 1993. Yep 30 friggin' years ago. Damn, time is a subtle thief

I’d say she has aged well.

 

[yukon cornelius]

He's either #1 or #2. There's Pedro and Koufax then everyone else. 2 most dominant starting pitchers ever.
A while back, don't remember exactly when, maybe 15 years ago, a panel of baseball historians,sportswriters and Bill James-type geeks determined that the 2 most dominant stretches of starting pitching over 3 consecutive seasons was
1. Pedro can't remember exact years but might even been his last year with Mtl and 1st 2 with Bos
2.Koufax 3 straight years in early- mid 60's
They narrowde down the top 50 starters alltime which included tge old timers like Cy young,Walter johnson,mathewson,paige,feller etc plus all tge modern-era
They were trying to determine every pitchers best 3 straight years and then who had the best.
I recall it wasn't close. Pedro and Koufax were head shoulders better than everyone.
Jives with what my eyes saw

pedro's years were 1998-1999-2000

there's debate as to which of his years was better, 99 or 00


gibson had a year there in the 60's that was nasty, too.......some call it the greatest single season of all-time....but to me koufax, gibson et al were doing it in the 2nd dead ball era......the fact that pedro was doing it in the midst of the steroid era, when offense was exploding, makes it even more remarkable

 

[yukon cornelius]

Not that he'd make the top 4, but does Roger Clemens being a Yankee later completely screw his career in Boston?

roger clemens taking himself out of game 6 in '86 completely screwed him

 

[yukon cornelius]

Good post.

My belief is championships and the pressure of carrying your team to the ultimate prize is what separates great players from GOATS.

Ted Williams was the greatest hitter who ever lived. There is no debate about that.

My criteria is a) hitting/individual performance and b) winning/championships/clutch-ness....at a minimum it's a draw b/t/w Ted and Ortiz.

baseball is a tough one to have championships as a criteria for greatness

i've always said baseball is an individual sport played collectively.......there is a team aspect for sure, both chemistry wise and gameplay wise, but it is really a collective of (mostly) individual plays grouped together......way more so than the other big 4 sports

 

[Huckleberry1]

That’s easy. Brady, Russell, Orr, and Wade Boggs.

 

[RobertWeathers]

He's either #1 or #2. There's Pedro and Koufax then everyone else. 2 most dominant starting pitchers ever.
A while back, don't remember exactly when, maybe 15 years ago, a panel of baseball historians,sportswriters and Bill James-type geeks determined that the 2 most dominant stretches of starting pitching over 3 consecutive seasons was
1. Pedro can't remember exact years but might even been his last year with Mtl and 1st 2 with Bos
2.Koufax 3 straight years in early- mid 60's
They narrowde down the top 50 starters alltime which included tge old timers like Cy young,Walter johnson,mathewson,paige,feller etc plus all tge modern-era
They were trying to determine every pitchers best 3 straight years and then who had the best.
I recall it wasn't close. Pedro and Koufax were head shoulders better than everyone.
Jives with what my eyes saw

Pedro
Kofax
Gibson
Randy Johnson
Maddox

 

[RobertWeathers]

That’s easy. Brady, Russell, Orr, and Wade Boggs.

Margo Adams agrees.

 

[maust]

Margo Adams agrees.

As do thousands of chickens

 

[yukon cornelius]

how did i not know that oil can boyd was too drunk to pitch in game 7 if '86?

all time Boston crazies

oil can boyd
bill lee
irving fryar
mike millbury (just for hitting a fan with his own shoe)

 

[40yrpatsfan]

Jordan Richards
Panda Sandoval
Vin Baker
Joe Corvo

What about Sidney Wicks?

 

[Pape]

pedro's years were 1998-1999-2000

there's debate as to which of his years was better, 99 or 00


gibson had a year there in the 60's that was nasty, too.......some call it the greatest single season of all-time....but to me koufax, gibson et al were doing it in the 2nd dead ball era......the fact that pedro was doing it in the midst of the steroid era, when offense was exploding, makes it even more remarkable

We were at the Seattle game in '99 when Pedro came out in relief for bryce whatever after Cormier **** the bed... except for the dinger he gave up to a-rod, he was Fire on the mound... Only time i got to see him pitch in a game

 

[smg93]

Russell
Brady
Papi
Orr

 

[State]

Mo Lewis.

Thanks, Mo.

 

[Bruins29]

how did i not know that oil can boyd was too drunk to pitch in game 7 if '86?

all time Boston crazies

oil can boyd
bill lee
irving fryar
mike millbury (just for hitting a fan with his own shoe)

There was this one guy named Aaron….

 

[40yrpatsfan]

I saw all these guys play, though only a couple of times seeing Ted in his last year. I think Williams, Brady, and Russell deserve special status cause of how long they were great and how ridiculous their accomplishments were. It's one thing to be great for 5 years, and another to be great for 15 like these 3 were.

Russell my childhood idol won 11 of 13; Brady's 10 SB appearances and 7 rings just as impressive. Williams is now almost criminally underrated. He sacrificed what would've been among his 5 most productive seasons to the wars. He likely would have broken 700 homers and had at least 1 ring. Also amazing is that he CAME BACK from several years of hellish war without missing a beat. He was a premier fighter pilot by all accounts, and also one of America's all-time great outdoorsmen. He was THE authority on both hitting and flyfishing, so together with fighter pilot that's 3 of the hardest things to do in life. Long 6'3" athlete with that "greatest generation" mentality and an outsized personality a-la-Bird. He was a superhero really.

Bird, Orr, Pedro and Papi were comets who soared the highest but for a much shorter period. All were arguably "the greatest ever" at one point or another. Papi maybe a little less so, but he was so dominant in those World Series postseasons that he belongs in this tier - just absurdly clutch HR's.

Then there's stars like Yaz, Bourque, Havlicek, Cousy, Heinsohn, Hannah, Seymour, Sam Jones, Cowens, Espo and others who were also HOF greats but somehow all lower than 7th on this list. Yaz won the triple crown in one of the greatest seasons of all time, Cousy was the Bird of the 1950's, and Hannah is probably the greatest OG in history.