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Report: Brady and Gisele are Divorcing

Inconsistent, like retiring then un-retiring?

To me it's clear that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Yet I don't think "liking" a post is the same as "commenting".

I guess that's where the world has come to.
No it can't be the retiring and un-retiring.

TB12 has said for 10 years he wants to play until 45. Then he suddenly retired at 44? I thought it was odd at the time; maybe he always intended to only play until 44, but that way people wouldn't give him a retirement tour.

But then he suddenly un-retired...

I think its pretty clear Gisele basically forced him to retire, or he did it to try and save the marriage, and then when retiring didn't help he said screw it and went back to football.
 
I think its pretty clear Gisele basically forced him to retire, or he did it to try and save the marriage, and then when retiring didn't help he said screw it and went back to football.

I personally think he thought he'd be OK with retirement but within a few days/weeks of doing it he realized he was not, decided if he un-retired she'd be mad but eventually come around and be OK with it too, but totally miscalculated.

I personally think he wouldn't say "screw it" when it concerns his relationship with his wife and his kids, it's not like him to accept defeat on any front.
 
I personally think he wouldn't say "screw it" when it concerns his relationship with his wife and his kids, it's not like him to accept defeat on any front.
If we accept the bolded as true, then it is perfectly plausible that his wife ordering him to retire, and him meekly giving in to her commands, is the level of defeat he was not willing to accept.

And I don't blame him.
 
If we accept the bolded as true, then it is perfectly plausible that his wife ordering him to retire, and him meekly giving in to her commands, is the level of defeat he was not willing to accept.

And I don't blame him.
Right, and if Tom Brady was banging underaged girls (or boys) on the side, that too would be unacceptable.

Yet we have no evidence of either.

It just seems to be an irresistible meme that she demanded that he retire.

It's clear from her statements that she wanted him to be more "present" for the family, but that comes far short of making a demand.

The statement we have is:

"This is a very violent sport, and I have my children and I would like him to be more present,” she told ELLE in September 2022. I have definitely had those conversations with him over and over again. But ultimately, I feel that everybody has to make a decision that works for (them). He needs to follow his joy, too.”

It doesn't convey demands. If anything she seems to be the one saying "screw it", if he can't be "more present" and prefers to "follow his joy", then it's time for me to move on.

It seems to me, again, that he felt he could placate her by the retirement, then couldn't follow through with it so he un-retired and thought he could win her over to support that decision, but failed.
 
Yeah, I remember her, that must've been 10 years ago. Can't recall her stage name but I think she was legit. And she was a Patriots fan.
She was great... I asked her the perfect size for most and she answered with reasoning ... too funny she was hilarious.
 
Right, and if Tom Brady was banging underaged girls (or boys) on the side, that too would be unacceptable.
You're the one who said "it's not like him to accept defeat on any front" - and now you're making up such ridiculousness after I accepted your own statement as true in order to make my point.
Yet we have no evidence of either.

It just seems to be an irresistible meme that she demanded that he retire.

It's clear from her statements that she wanted him to be more "present" for the family, but that comes far short of making a demand.

The statement we have is:



It doesn't convey demands. If anything she seems to be the one saying "screw it", if he can't be "more present" and prefers to "follow his joy", then it's time for me to move on.

It seems to me, again, that he felt he could placate her by the retirement, then couldn't follow through with it so he un-retired and thought he could win her over to support that decision, but failed.
You're all over the place here. First you seem critical of the notion that she demanded he retire.... then you paint a picture where him un-retiring is the main cause of the separation/divorce. I mean, which is it?

Obviously, they are both adults. Neither can demand anything of the other. What they can do, however, is decide they are not willing to stay in the relationship if they have to make certain concessions.
 
Right, and if Tom Brady was banging underaged girls (or boys) on the side, that too would be unacceptable.

Yet we have no evidence of either.

It just seems to be an irresistible meme that she demanded that he retire.

It's clear from her statements that she wanted him to be more "present" for the family, but that comes far short of making a demand.

The statement we have is:



It doesn't convey demands. If anything she seems to be the one saying "screw it", if he can't be "more present" and prefers to "follow his joy", then it's time for me to move on.

It seems to me, again, that he felt he could placate her by the retirement, then couldn't follow through with it so he un-retired and thought he could win her over to support that decision, but failed.

Re-reading those comments by Gisele, it seems kind of odd she was so willing to publicly air those feelings. It gives an "after-the-fact" vibe that the marriage is finito.
 
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OT: There was a porn star on this site a few years back. She was a dancer at the Foxy Lady in RI and obviously went into adult films. Could have been a fake for all we know but seemed convincing. I'm sure she'd "console" TB12.
Could have been a poser. Or do they call them catfishes ??
 
Re-reading those comments by Gisele, it seems kind of odd she was so willing to publicly air those feelings. It kind of gives an "after-the-fact" vibe that the marriage is finito.

According to Bill Lee, it was just a coincidence that she liked a IG post about marriage....
 
This board is 99% men and we have 33 pages on Tom Brady’s divorce. Here… some of you could use this…


Do you think if guys take that supplement they'll stop posting? I see it advertised all the time but don't buy it (literally and figuratively). I believe a guy can have optimum T-levels and still be interested in topics like Tom's matrimonial mayhem.
 
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