BB in damage control mode regarding Brady's departure

[Boomer B]

How do you propose the 2020 Pats with negative cap room after keeping Brady could have improved on the 2019 team that wasn’t good enough?
How do they rebuild the roster that replaced 45% of the snaps played in 2021 with $50 million less to spend in cap room than they did.
They didn’t “let him walk for nothing”, he chose to walk, and the consequence was the team that needed to rebuild was therefore able to do it much faster and more completely.
From 2020 to 2021 they turned over 45% of the team by having $70,000,000 to spend. They couldn’t have come close to that of Brady had taken up over 50 mill of it between 20 and 21.

I'd love to see you head over to a Rams forum and explain to everyone how a cap can't be manipulated.

 

[gobesmug]

It’s fact. Having kept Brady would have made no moves possible to improve the team from 19 to 20 and eliminated the majority of what they used to rebuild the team in 21.
I realize for emotional reasons you want to pretend otherwise but that’s the case.

I have zero emotional reasons, I've been perfectly happy watching Brady play with actual weapons and watching an organization treat him like the GOAT.

Again, since you seem to be obtuse, the money the pats spent last offseason to be a wildcard team having the most embarrassing playoff loss of all time, could have been spent the year before

 

[gobesmug]

Trading for Sanu was the nail in the coffin of the dying dynasty. Then releasing him less than a year later.

Wow, was that bad.

Drafting Harry over AJ Brown was worse

 

[TheRainMaker]

Drafting Harry over AJ Brown was worse

Passing on him and Metcalf twice was even worse and frankly unacceptable.

 

[Ring 6]

I'd love to see you head over to a Rams forum and explain to everyone how a cap can't be manipulated.

Show me when the rams were in a situation like the 19-20 Patriots.

 

[Ring 6]

I have zero emotional reasons, I've been perfectly happy watching Brady play with actual weapons and watching an organization treat him like the GOAT.

Again, since you seem to be obtuse, the money the pats spent last offseason to be a wildcard team having the most embarrassing playoff loss of all time, could have been spent the year before

It absolutely could not have been.

 

[gobesmug]

Passing on him and Metcalf twice was even worse and frankly unacceptable.

Yep instead of Harry and another failed 2nd rd DB, Bill could have drafter both.

Imagine in 2019 after the you know what hit the fan, the Wr core would have been Edelman, Brown, and Metcalf.

Brady would have more than made worked, and we possibly win superbowl #7

 

[gobesmug]

It absolutely could not have been.

It absolutely could have. Sorry the facts hurt your feelings

 

[gobesmug]

I've come to the conclusion that Kraft should be the one blamed for Brady leaving.

Why wouldn't Bill want to maximize his last few years coaching by going all in on Brady.

Honestly given Krafts cheap nature, I wouldn't be surprised if it was his decision to move post Brady so he could keep the team competitive past Brady.

The Bucs have gone all in on Brady, and most likely following his retirement the team will plummet for a few years. I don't think Kraft wants that for the Pats

 

[Ring 6]

It absolutely could have. Sorry the facts hurt your feelings

You are giving an opinion and that opinion is entirely unsubstantiated.
Not sure why you think you not understanding reality would hurt my feelings.
You are wrong. It is what it is.

 

[gobesmug]

You are giving an opinion and that opinion is entirely unsubstantiated.
Not sure why you think you not understanding reality would hurt my feelings.
You are wrong. It is what it is.

It is what is, the Pats had over 100mil capspace in 2021 and even more in 22 back in 20.

Brady, could have been given a similar contract he has where it was 2 for 50 but with bogus option years that spread the cap hit out further

 

[Ring 6]

It is what is, the Pats had over 100mil capspace in 2021 and even more in 22 back in 20.

Brady, could have been given a similar contract he has where it was 2 for 50 but with bogus option years that spread the cap hit out further

Having cap space in 2021 and 2022 doesn’t let you sign players in 2020 if you don’t have cap space in 2020.
They didn’t have 100 mill they had 70, mist of which was crested by not paying Brady 50+ million in 20 and 21, and opt outs that did t happen until free agency was over.
But hey let’s use our 2030 cap space this year.

 

[gobesmug]

Having cap space in 2021 and 2022 doesn’t let you sign players in 2020 if you don’t have cap space in 2020.
They didn’t have 100 mill they had 70, mist of which was crested by not paying Brady 50+ million in 20 and 21, and opt outs that did t happen until free agency was over.
But hey let’s use our 2030 cap space this year.

They could, Kraft doesn't want to.

Do you not follow FA at all?

The Saints were -70mil in capspace this year. How do you think they got back into the positive?

Hint, they restructured contracts into future years

 

[crawhammer]

Question for Ring 6... are the Patriots ascending? Will they be better next season and so on? Because as decrepit as you say they were in 2020, with all the spending of last offseason, and with the addition of a franchise quarterback, the 2021 team lost one less game and won the same number of playoff games (0). They're basically standing pat now with nearly everyone else in the conference making significant moves. So I just want to know if the reigning Executive of the Year has put together a team that's going to win more games next season? Compete for the division? Win a playoff game?

Brady won the divorce. The last two seasons can't be undone, Brady won a Super Bowl and put together an MVP caliber season at ages 43 and 44. He obviously did that without Belichick, who has had 9 full seasons with quarterbacks other than Brady, and he has nothing to show for it.

 

[venecol]

They could, Kraft doesn't want to.

Do you not follow FA at all?

The Saints were -70mil in capspace this year. How do you think they got back into the positive?

Hint, they restructured contracts into future years

He clearly doesn't understand how the cap can be manipulated to back load these contracts. When Desean Watson only has a $10M cap hit on a $46M AAV that says it all. Just not franchising Thuney would've released enough cap $$ to do a lot. He left the next year anyway. It was a really bad GM move. You kept a LG that was leaving anyway to end up w/ 7 wins, instead of a QB that could've given you 5 more wins.

 

[Boomer B]

They could, Kraft doesn't want to.

Do you not follow FA at all?

The Saints were -70mil in capspace this year. How do you think they got back into the positive?

Hint, they restructured contracts into future years

Zolak, who is well connected to the Pats and knows more about the NFL then the entire forum, was on the radio last week and said the cap is crap. Teams can manipulate it like the Rams and Saints have done. If the Patriots wanted Brady they could have done the 2 years $50m very easily. They could have done restructures to fit in other contracts…it’s done all the time by other teams. It came down to Belichick not believing in Tom and Kraft siding with Belichick over Brady. A move Kraft is probably kicking himself over.

 

[Ring 6]

They could, Kraft doesn't want to.

Do you not follow FA at all?

The Saints were -70mil in capspace this year. How do you think they got back into the positive?

Hint, they restructured contracts into future years

The Saints have the worst cap management in the NFL.
The 2020 Patriots were not the 2022 Saints. One team being in a condition to have to cut and restructure players to get under the cap means nothing about another team, with an entirely different cap structure freeing up 70 mill they don’t have.
I know you want to believe it, but you are wrong.
If you think they could have, show me how. Without losing players.

 

[Ring 6]

Question for Ring 6... are the Patriots ascending? Will they be better next season and so on? Because as decrepit as you say they were in 2020, with all the spending of last offseason, and with the addition of a franchise quarterback, the 2021 team lost one less game and won the same number of playoff games (0). They're basically standing pat now with nearly everyone else in the conference making significant moves. So I just want to know if the reigning Executive of the Year has put together a team that's going to win more games next season? Compete for the division? Win a playoff game?

Brady won the divorce. The last two seasons can't be undone, Brady won a Super Bowl and put together an MVP caliber season at ages 43 and 44. He obviously did that without Belichick, who has had 9 full seasons with quarterbacks other than Brady, and he has nothing to show for it.

They certainly are ascending.
The built a team that with a rookie QB made the playoffs and was 2 wins from a 1 seed.

Brady leaving was best for both him and the team.

 

[Ring 6]

Zolak, who is well connected to the Pats and knows more about the NFL then the entire forum, was on the radio last week and said the cap is crap. Teams can manipulate it like the Rams and Saints have done. If the Patriots wanted Brady they could have done the 2 years $50m very easily. They could have done restructures to fit in other contracts…it’s done all the time by other teams. It came down to Belichick not believing in Tom and Kraft siding with Belichick over Brady. A move Kraft is probably kicking himself over.

They could have paid Brady. They could not have paid Brady and improved the roster without rebuilding.
An appeal to authority to Scott Zolak is an interesting new dodge though.

 

[Ring 6]

He clearly doesn't understand how the cap can be manipulated to back load these contracts. When Desean Watson only has a $10M cap hit on a $46M AAV that says it all. Just not franchising Thuney would've released enough cap $$ to do a lot. He left the next year anyway. It was a really bad GM move. You kept a LG that was leaving anyway to end up w/ 7 wins, instead of a QB that could've given you 5 more wins.

Not keep thuney means taking a step backward. You can always gain cap money by getting rid of players, but that doesn’t improve your team.