Patriots Player Departure Shaq Mason traded to the Bucs

[upstater1]

As the days go by and there is no FA signing, there's only one conclusion I can draw from the Mason trade. It wasn't to build salary cap room so much as it is to replace him with Onwenu.

 

[TomPatriot]

They're good athletes. They have half the boxes checked off already. Both players showed promise in Canada or here.

I expect the Bears to make dumb moves like keeping overhyped overpaid stiffs on their roster and let promising players walk. If you think what the Bears do validates anything, stop watching football... take up basket weaving instead.

So you haven’t seen any film on either one, haven’t talked to anyone who has seen them play and can’t cite any media reports. So you’re just guessing. Got it.

 

[50-yard-line]

As much as I want to hope Desjarlais and Hambright can step in and kiss butt, this is the most head-scratching move of the off-season to me.

Mason was not overpaid - wasn't really making all that much, and is only 28. The only thing I can think of is that they wanted to extend him, or feared a Gilmore situation (no guaranteed money). I doubt there was anything on tape. Mason's been a great player for years.

 

[upstater1]

As much as I want to hope Desjarlais and Hambright can step in and kiss butt, this is the most head-scratching move of the off-season to me.

Mason was not overpaid - wasn't really making all that much, and is only 28. The only thing I can think of is that they wanted to extend him, or feared a Gilmore situation (no guaranteed money). I doubt there was anything on tape. Mason's been a great player for years.

They have the replacement for him and it's Onwenu

 

[50-yard-line]

They have the replacement for him and it's Onwenu

Could be that they think Onwenu NEEDS to be in the RG spot, I guess. They were putting him at RT and LG from the start, though.

Could be that - much like letting Johnson go because they're going away from a true FB, apparently (probably why they didn't protect Ben Mason either).

 

[mgteich]

Could be that they think Onwenu NEEDS to be in the RG spot, I guess. They were putting him at RT and LG from the start, though.

Could be that - much like letting Johnson go because they're going away from a true FB, apparently (probably why they didn't protect Ben Mason either).

Onwenu was put at LG and RT because the RG position was filled. Apparently, Mason also was much stronger at RG than anywhere else. We can keep on talking about Onwenu as a RT, and how he played there so well. The reality is that when Brown went down, it was Herron who played RT.

Onwenu is a backup or marginal starter at LG and RT. I think that team considers him a solid starter at RG. Many of us always thought that this was his best position. However, Mason was certainly better.

 

[Wozzy]

So you haven’t seen any film on either one, haven’t talked to anyone who has seen them play and can’t cite any media reports. So you’re just guessing. Got it.

Hey chuckles, there's this thing called YouTube...




Also Drew Desjarlais helped lead his team to a Grey Cup championship, was a an All Star and the #1 ranked Canadian free agent available this season. Both players also had very good measurables and are plus athletes... so that helps.

Reading is a wonderful thing.

 

[Mack Herron]

OL struggling to tread water. How much help can we expect from rookies?

 

[mgteich]

OL struggling to tread water. How much help can we expect from rookies?

Much can happen in 5 months. We need three additions. They don't have to be rookies.
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You ask about rookies. I expect one contributor among the rookies (out of 2 tries in the draft). I also expect us to sign or trade for 3 free agents.

In theory we start with
Wynn
Dejarlais (Belichick is likely to take a year to develop, if necessary)
Andrews
Onwenu
Herron (OK last year; beat out Onwenu for reps; should be a backup this year)
backup C/G: Ferentz (on 53 or Practice Squad)

bottom four: Cajuste, Sherman, Durant, Hambright
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I THINK THAT WE NEED THREE ADDITIONS
starting RT
starting LG
backup OL: one of the bottom 4 or acquisition

 

[kennyb]

Even if they wanted to teplace him with onwenu, they still could have gotten more than a very late 5th for him.

Maybe bb felt guilty and wanted to do brady a favor? Maybe he's been humbled after all those yeats prancing around as the goat coach? All a mirage, back to mediocrity.

 

[1960Pats]

Remember that, according to reports, the JAG trade was basically BB just calling up the 49ers and saying "If you want him, he's yours for a 2nd".

I don't know who or what to believe when it comes to Bill.

 

[captain stone]

Could be that - much like letting Johnson go because they're going away from a true FB, apparently (probably why they didn't protect Ben Mason either).

Unless Dalton Keene becomes the next Kyle Juszcyk, then not retaining local dude & Pats fan Ben Mason makes No ****ing Sense Whatsoever.

 

[DaBruinz]

Could be that they think Onwenu NEEDS to be in the RG spot, I guess. They were putting him at RT and LG from the start, though.

Could be that - much like letting Johnson go because they're going away from a true FB, apparently (probably why they didn't protect Ben Mason either).

Onwenu was put at LG and RT because the RG position was filled. Apparently, Mason also was much stronger at RG than anywhere else. We can keep on talking about Onwenu as a RT, and how he played there so well. The reality is that when Brown went down, it was Herron who played RT.

Onwenu is a backup or marginal starter at LG and RT. I think that team considers him a solid starter at RG. Many of us always thought that this was his best position. However, Mason was certainly better.

As I posted earlier, Onwenu had played ALL 3 positions, though RG was the one he took the least snaps at. He actually graded highly at both LG and RT both seasons.

 

[Wozzy]

Unless Dalton Keene becomes the next Kyle Juszcyk, then not retaining local dude & Pats fan Ben Mason makes No ****ing Sense Whatsoever.

They have 4 TE’s who can play FB, take your meds

 

[mgteich]

As I posted earlier, Onwenu had played ALL 3 positions, though RG was the one he took the least snaps at. He actually graded highly at both LG and RT both seasons.

I expect to see Onwenu at RG.

I like the new right side with Andrews, Onwenu, and Brown.

And I'm fine with gaining cap space to have this change.

And I'm OK with Mason as the Game Day backup at RG and RT.
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[venecol]

I expect to see Onwenu at RG.

I like the new right side with Andrews, Onwenu, and Brown.

And I'm fine with gaining cap space to have this change.

And I'm OK with Mason as the Game Day backup at RG and RT.
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Which Mason?

 

[DaBruinz]

I expect to see Onwenu at RG.

I like the new right side with Andrews, Onwenu, and Brown.

And I'm fine with gaining cap space to have this change.

And I'm OK with Mason as the Game Day backup at RG and RT.
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Do you mean Herron, Sherman, or Durant?

 

[venecol]

There's Shaq Mason now w/ the Bucs.
There's Ben Mason (FB mentioned above) now w/ the Ravens.
There's Master Bates who isn't really a Mason but is coming in for a meeting.

Either way, none of them are on the team.

 

[Joker]

There's Shaq Mason now w/ the Bucs.
There's Ben Mason (FB mentioned above) now w/ the Ravens.
There's Master Bates who isn't really a Mason but is coming in for a meeting.

Either way, none of them are on the team.

I think you're forgetting Mason Jarr...he's a bit stout but has a reputation of being a bit like glass...hope this helps..

 

[captain stone]

I also know Dave Mason from the band Traffic; and the Killing Jarr by Siouxsie & the Banshees: