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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.A great coach/GM will find a good QB eventually... give me the great coach/GM every time.Arguing which is more important to a team’s success, coach or QB, is like arguing which is more important to water, hydrogen or oxygen.
A lousy coach will lose games even with a great QB.
A lousy QB will lose games even with a great coach.
so, is it hydrogen or oxygen?
OT. I need a question answered and the locked the relative thread. In AB's melt down, Ariens claims to have asked him to enter the game 3 times before he sent him off and AB imploded. So far I haven't seen anyone report on WHY he didn't want to enter the game in the first place. Anyone have any idea. Just very curious about that.
I'll just take another water please.Arguing which is more important to a team’s success, coach or QB, is like arguing which is more important to water, hydrogen or oxygen.
A lousy coach will lose games even with a great QB.
A lousy QB will lose games even with a great coach.
so, is it hydrogen or oxygen?
I hope that all the snowflakes don't melt when I point this out, but Bill is 4 games under .500 without TB. Like I said, it's about the players, not the coaches. Is Matt LaFleur the new GOAT because he has a .809 winning %?
You remain an idiot.Now to the uninitiated it may appear that BB's ex-Brady record is less than 50% while Brady's win record is more than 75%, we have to make some adjustments.
Yeah but if you exclude the Browns tenure (36-44) (since Art wasn't fair to him) and you exclude 2000 (5-11), and first 2 games of 2001
(0-2) since it was his first year and a bit at Pats and he was rebuilding and was still warming up. And you exclude games 3 and 4 of 2017 (1-1) since poor guy was forced to go to Brissett as 3rd QB and that's unfair. And you of course exclude 2020 (7-9), and first 6 games of 2021 (3-3), since he's rebuilding and rebuilding the team ended after 6 games of second season.
Then BB without Brady is:
2008: 11-5
2017: 2-0 (you exclude the 3rd and 4th game with Brissett starting because come on, that's just unfair, going to 3rd QB)
2020: 8-2 (after game 6)
Equals 21 - 7. That's 21/28 = 75.0% winning record. 75.0%!! That's amazing. And I didn't manipulate any numbers to make BB look good. While Brady through his 315 career games ONLY has 242-73 a 76.8% win percentage, which may appear more than BB's win percentage, but this number needs to be adjusted. Belichick's genius defense probably contributed to at least half the wins. So Brady's ACTUAL record ex-Belichick genius is more like 121-73 (removing half the wins) and hence 121/194 = 62.3%. As you can now see, Belichick's true adjusted ex-Brady winning record is 75% while Brady's ex-BB-genius is 62.3%. The math is indisputable and 75 > 62.
So BB wins.
I hope the snowflakes don’t melt when I point this out, but Bill only has a winning record with Tom Brady as his starting QB. And Matt Cassel. And Jimmy Garopollo. And Mac Jones.I hope that all the snowflakes don't melt when I point this out, but Bill is 4 games under .500 without TB. Like I said, it's about the players, not the coaches. Is Matt LaFleur the new GOAT because he has a .809 winning %?
Hey little man. Tommy is gone. Deal with itI hope that all the snowflakes don't melt when I point this out, but Bill is 4 games under .500 without TB. Like I said, it's about the players, not the coaches. Is Matt LaFleur the new GOAT because he has a .809 winning %?
You have to realize that the Bradyites are an insecure lot. When they are not disparaging Bill, they are disparaging Rodgers, Mahomes, Manning, Brees, etc - just peruse through the Bucs thread. Nothing can touch their Tommy.
I'm fine with the Brady love. Whatever.
It's the Brady > BB crap and BB sucks w/o Brady I take issue with.
Their Tommy yesterday proved once again why he’s the GOAT; your small, noodle-armed, former pre-teen model who had the Easiest season for a QB in College Football History and who then stepped right into an offense with which he was Already thoroughly familiar didn’t prove a ****ing thing yesterday.
See how that can work, Mrs Jones?
I think he does as well. Until another QB in the NFC can prove they can win in the playoffs, it's TB to lose.Agreed 1,000 percent. I'm sensing those pushing the latter narrative are getting nervous of late because (A) the Patriots are experiencing success and (B) the veritable all-star team constructed around Brady last year is experiencing attrition exacerbated by mediocre coaching. I still think Tom has enough weapons for postseason success, however.
Captain. I get the sense you love being a contrarian. In this case, I think it’s disingenuous to dismiss Jones.Their Tommy yesterday proved once again why he’s the GOAT; your small, noodle-armed, former pre-teen model who had the Easiest season for a QB in College Football History and who then stepped right into an offense with which he was Already thoroughly familiar didn’t prove a ****ing thing yesterday.
See how that can work, Mrs Jones?
Their Tommy yesterday proved once again why he’s the GOAT; your small, noodle-armed, former pre-teen model who had the Easiest season for a QB in College Football History and who then stepped right into an offense with which he was Already thoroughly familiar didn’t prove a ****ing thing yesterday.
That would be a pretty large feather in Belichick's capI don't see any way around GB for TB, not with all their missing or injured players.
If the Pats win the SB they'll probably have to beat GB with a great QB and the best active HC with a 39-9 career record and a .809 winning %.
Their Tommy yesterday proved once again why he’s the GOAT; your small, noodle-armed, former pre-teen model who had the Easiest season for a QB in College Football History and who then stepped right into an offense with which he was Already thoroughly familiar didn’t prove a ****ing thing yesterday.
See how that can work, Mrs Jones?
Hey little man. Tommy is gone. Deal with it